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Wow. Good, though it does seem somewhat expensive for 40 channels.

I wonder what a 40 channel package would cost from a cable company?

Though with bundled internet and TV today... it's difficult to know what each costs separately. And you usually get at least 70 channels with cable bundles.

What sucks is... the cable providers will start raising prices for internet-only plans.

Imagine internet was $70 a month... but you could get internet and TV for $90. Or something like that.

The cable companies are gonna try their hardest to get you to get TV channels from them instead of YT, PSVue, DTVN, SlingTV, etc.

The good thing with these "over-the-top" services is you don't need a crappy cable box. So you can actually save some money depending on how many boxes you don't need anymore.

But without knowing how much just the TV channels cost from a cable company... it's difficult to say whether YouTube's 40 channels for $35 is expensive or not.

I'd love to hear what people pay for TV from their cable companies (if they can itemize TV and internet)
 
I wonder what a 40 channel package would cost from a cable company?

Though with bundled internet and TV today... it's difficult to know what each costs separately. And you usually get at least 70 channels with cable bundles.

What sucks is... the cable providers will start raising prices for internet-only plans.

Imagine internet was $70 a month... but you could get internet and TV for $90. Or something like that.

The cable companies are gonna try their hardest to get you to get TV channels from them instead of YT, PSVue, DTVN, SlingTV, etc.

The good thing with these "over-the-top" services is you don't need a crappy cable box. So you can actually save some money depending on how many boxes you don't need anymore.

But without knowing how much just the TV channels cost from a cable company... it's difficult to say whether YouTube's 40 channels for $35 is expensive or not.

I'd love to hear what people pay for TV from their cable companies (if they can itemize TV and internet)

Yeah, I suppose you're right. I was initially comparing with the likes of Netflix, but yeah, they're not probably not strictly comparable.
 
Please when reporting these stories could you remember your international audience and put something like "This was launched only for the USA: There is no current information about roll out in other countries/ 6 more countries..:". Or put a link to the international information please. You have an international readership!
 
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Yeah, I suppose you're right. I was initially comparing with the likes of Netflix, but yeah, they're not probably not strictly comparable.

Ahhhh... yeah... I wasn't even thinking about Netflix, Hulu, etc... :)

Good point.

$10 a month for a seemingly endless supply of content.... on-demand too!

But yeah... it's a different kind of service compared to linear TV channels.
 
Not worth the price unless they're planning on adding more channels than Sling offers at that price.
 
The world spins and doesn't wait for Apple. The moment MS acquires some taste and Google improves their strategy to have a consistent OS across devices, more people will realize how limited, boring and for some reason expense the Apple ecosystem is. Everyday you can see other hardware manufactures innovating in hardware and design only to be restricted by ugly, buggy and slow software. The only difference is that the majority of people believes Apple´s UI looks better, and I agree with that, for now. I still remember how Apple's keynotes were considered the best around the companies, even books were written about S.J. presentation styles, and look how boring, uncompelling and repetitive the presentations are, or when was the last time an Apple ad went viral?. Apples is behind in so many things and now is clear that they are ending the personal computer revolution that they ignited on 1970. Apple is not dead or doomed, is just boring.
 
Yes that is legal. But in order to fit under the legal requirements of time-shifting, you have to ask the service to record "your" program in advance. Even if Youtube is technically recording everything and saving it forever, they can't let you watch anything after the fact, because to the law, that is no different from recording a movie off the TV and then giving or selling it to somebody else.

simple solution: swipe a list to checkmark all of the shows that you want to record. ask user to update periodically.
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The post I was replying to implied that is a difference. If cloud DVR does the same as a standard DVR (only in the cloud), you have to preselect what you want to record. This means for example you wouldn't have access to the whole back catalog the moment you subscribe and you would have to 'manually' select something (which could be a whole season of a TV show) to 'record' it before it airs. The latter restriction could in principle be circumvented by spending some time initially to select every program on every channel manually. But you still would need to add any new series as it premiers.

present a list to the user with all of the shows. swipe on the apple tv remote to select all. then you can only access all shows since you checkmarked the list of shows. ask user to update periodically.

eventually lawmakers will see this and either fight it to put more restrictions or to set it free with a tax or something.
 
YouTube appears to have all the major networks where as DTV Now is lacking CBS, FOX and NBC. Lacking 3 of the 4 major networks is exactly why I canceled my DTV Now subscription.

Incorrect. DTVN has Fox, and NBC shows, just perhaps not live local TV in your market. Guess what? Google won't either. Which is why it is only rolling out by area, hence the "we'll let you know when it's in your area" message on their email sign up page. Why? Because like all the other services, it's easy to include local TV stations that are owned by the network itself but if you try and include content from other stations not owned by the networks themselves, that requires a very slow time intensive negotiation with each and every local station one by one by one which takes a very long time.
 
Don't care.
I just dumped Sling because of inconsistent performance and an awful user interface.
Plus, US internet is still too slow for optimum performance.
TV is still a wasteland.
Until channels are a la carte it will less than ideal.

You say it's a wasteland, even though it has all the channels you want. Interesting. I say, just pay for it and have everything you want.
 
I'm not sure I'd watch this crap if it was free much less pay for it. Too many commercials, can't forward through them. That will always be a dealbreaker for me.

I'll probably drop directv in favor of just buying whatever season on itunes, netflix and amazon, and doing without live tv. I never watch live tv anyways.
Same here. I gave up cable TV about 4 years ago and have never once regretted it. $10 / month for Netflix, plus free movies with Amazon Prime on my Fire TV and iTunes on my Apple TV and I have everything I need for a fraction of what I used to pay per month for 100+ channels that I rarely watched.
 
Don't care.
I just dumped Sling because of inconsistent performance and an awful user interface.
Plus, US internet is still too slow for optimum performance.
TV is still a wasteland.
Until channels are a la carte it will less than ideal.

Also, the major TV networks will charge Youtube too much (roughly $9.00/month wholesale for ESPN, $3/month for regional sports, $1-$2/month for each broadcaster, etc.) and that makes it difficult to offer consumers a $35 package that is profitable while still including all of the major networks.
 
And you would want to watch all the daily crap and not just the shows you like and whenever you like on demand because .... ?

Thats like paying 20$ to listen to radio stations instead of 10$ for every song you want at your disposal at any time through Spotify and the like
I dunno. On demand is cool. But sometimes it's nice to just turn on the tube and watch. Flip around, etc. Just feels like less work.

My preference is to have TV channels with a schedule of programming, but everything available as demand as well. Best of both worlds, just two different interfaces.
 
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I wonder if Google will finally be able to work out how to make picture-in-picture work on the iPad with this app? Somehow I doubt it! I hate the way there's no on-screen volume control in the YouTube app too, forcing me to fumble on the side of the device for the physical buttons.
 
I considered trying Vue when DIRECTV Now got off to a really rocky start. Then I read the requirements they put on being able to watch TV on a mobile device. Unless I misunderstood something, the short answer is, PS Vue doesn't allow mobile streaming for the vast majority of the channels they offer unless the device is physically located in the metro area near your billing ZIP code. That made it an instant no-go for me.

I'm not sure why Vue has such strict geographic restrictions on so much of their content when I can go anywhere in the U.S. and watch those same channels live on my phone through the DIRECTV Now app.
Is this true? Can anyone verify?
 
The problem is internet service is still largely monopolized by companies by Comcast.
 
Apple could do so much more and innovate so much faster as it wasn't so focused on profits alone. I hate to see competitors are overhauling Apple left and right. In the days of the iPod competitors tried as well. But then Apple innovated and gave their customers a good reason to choose ipod. These days Apple lost its focus and doesn't put effort in delivering the best. As with their keynotes lately, they're full of "jokes" and send the message they don't take themselves seriously anymore.

Compare Chromecast with Apple TV. 4 chromecasts for one Apple TV. You should think Apple TV should be 4 times better (NOT).
Does Chromecast really do everything Apple TV does? How can that be, hard drive and processor-wise?

My only complaints about Apple TV are the lack of an Amazon app, the fact that Xfinity doesn't participate in single sign-on yet, and that Netflix and Amazon don't work with the new TV app and it's great "up next" feature.
[doublepost=1488350372][/doublepost]Everyone who keeps bitching about "these awful cable boxes" likely doesn't have the Comcast/Xfinity X1 box, which is a fantastic device and a TV lover's dream. I love my Apple TV, but this X1 box is pretty great too. Definitely raised the standard in the category.
 
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My "internet-only" bill (25/5) from Comcast is up to $85 already... So start adding in this $35/month for YouTube service alongside Netflix, iTunes rentals, etc. and suddenly that huge cable sub bill won't start looking so bad after all. :eek:

No thanks - I'll pass.


Your getting rip off.. I get Comcast only internet at 150/20 for $89.99...
 
So I wonder if Apple just decided not to go after this market or if Eddy Cue is just a crappy negotiator and couldn't get a deal done.
I suspect it's the latter, and not the former. Apple probably tried hard enough, but are perhaps too inflexible on pricing, and without a master negotiator replete with RDF à la SJ, their plans weren't going anywhere.

Whatever ensues, if we could just only get around those pesky cable Cos, who'll still have us..... you know where, with their bandwidth charges, which are sure to go up once their cable tv revenue starts to decline.
 
How would this service work?
Is it like Hulu? I sign up and I can watch the content, no matter where I am in the US?
Or is it like the services, where I must put my home cable thingy code in my sign up?
 
While more competition is always good, the first company with a credible / viable "high-bit-rate" Sports Offering will be the one that actually Wins the Day ... cable & satellite providers currently have a clear advantage serving-up mainstream sports venues ... and thats how they maintain their User Base ... for some UN-reason, none of the existing streaming service providers have figured that out ! ... I guess the guys at the top at Apple, and the ones that currently offer a streaming media solution, do NOT watch much sports, 'cause it isn't Rocket Science ! ... streaming absolutely sucks for popular live sporting events !!!

And it will continue to suck. It's almost technologically impossible to have a live stream as reliable as TV. You have the huge delays (30-40-50 seconds is quite a bit with live sport), you have inconsistent internet connections, and of course no one willing to stream at 30mbps to give you the same picture quality.

There's a service here in Germany that owns the rights to Premier League football etc. and while nice to be able to choose stuff, quality isn't like TV at all. 25fps, lower bitrate, inconsistent servers and sometimes crappy home internet make for a worse experience.
 
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