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The translation feature in the headphones is amazing, but I feel Google made a huge mistake to make that particular feature exclusive to the Pixel. By doing so, they are undermining their other hardware partners.
 
Have a 128gb “just black” on order.

Looking forward to running it alongside my beloved iPhone 7.

FWIW, if I was going to use an Android device as my primary smartphone, it would likely be something from Google (as of this keynote, it would be a Pixel). Love the idea of the "pure" experience, no crapware, a single source for the device (though that last point still isn't enough to be as effective as Apple, but it's hard to trump hardware + software + store from the same company).
 
The translation feature in the headphones is amazing, but I feel Google made a huge mistake to make that particular feature exclusive to the Pixel. By doing so, they are undermining their other hardware partners.
I wouldn't blame a company for exclusivity. Look at apple watches. Those are exclusive to Iphones...so same thing.
 
nice devices but at the price of Samsung's and iPhones, I think they are a little too aggressively priced. Not sure if their strategy is still to have pixel's for developers or just for the masses?

Isn't Google's strategy pretty obvious? They are using Apple's business strategy of maintaining control over software and hardware production. Updates and security patches get applied faster to the Pixel line and you get Android without all of the other manufacturer's added-on garbage.
 
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Okay, I'm the last person to care about the Android vs iOS/Google vs Apple, but why are these devices so ugly?
 
Yeah, you're definitely surrendering your privacy (and your family's, and your pet's, etc.) to Google. But how is that any different than the dozens of times every day you surrender your privacy to |Google and other organizations? The difference I see is twofold: on one side you're giving them a whole lot more information; on the flip side, you are getting something valuable in return. Like many things in life, I believe it's a trade-off worth at least considering.
The benefit of Google services as the trade off of your privacy is overrated. I allowed Google Now complete access to my Gmail from day one, all my google searches, my trips in google maps, everything. And the best google can do is telling me where I am with local weather. No ****, I can do that by waking up and looking outside the window. It cannot even show me my plane tickets from Gmail (until I send them to kayak and then google gets the info from the email reminder from Kayak), my events from Gmail, nor properly detect my driving pattern after years of google maps usage (still only thinks I only want to go to wherever Location I searched last, nothing Smart there).

To this day, it still thinks I’m biking whenever I walk around with my moto 360. That shows how competent google’s machine learning or AI or whatever they like to call is. Skip logic I say.
 
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Google is in a very different business compared to Apple. It's still not clear to me that they actually intend to produce and sell as many phones as people would buy. I don't know why - by design, complacency, incompetence?

So you're right that if Apple sold 1 million iPhone 8s that'd be a massive flop, since they made a lot and want to sell a lot.

But if Google just doesn't care about it, or they specifically want to just sell a few - and makes only 1 million Pixels, it's hard to argue it's a flop...

There's no way of knowing if Google wanted to or not. It is hard to think of a reason they'd want to only sell a few. Most of their business model is skewed towards getting as many people on board as possible, to help train their algorithms. so it's unusual for them to say the least. I think you're giving Google a pass where there's no proof they deserve one.
 
Hmm...I don’t see one headline/story on The Verge website complaining that the lack of headphone jack with the Pixel 2 is user hostile. When the 7 came out my god you’d think the world was ending the way Verge writers threw a nutter. And people there call the site iVerge. :rolleyes:
 
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FWIW, if I was going to use an Android device as my primary smartphone, it would likely be something from Google (as of this keynote, it would be a Pixel). Love the idea of the "pure" experience, no crapware, a single source for the device (though that last point still isn't enough to be as effective as Apple, but it's hard to trump hardware + software + store from the same company).
I really love both ecosystems, and the speed of the respective devices. While Samsung has more eye candy, I don’t like the added UI and other “features” they throw into the software.

While the 8 was a big step up as compared to the 7 in horsepower, I am happy enough with my 7 to keep that as my daily driver for iOS. For my phone that I expense for work, I tend to like running Android, and, want a solid experience without extra bloat.

Oddly I am buying 2 Android phones this year, and nothing for iOS (for phones, as I picked up an iPad 10.5 I am typing on now). It’s not a statement against apple, Just that I was overdue for my development and main business devices! :eek:
 
The benefit of Google services as the trade off of your privacy is overrated. I allowed Google Now complete access to my Gmail from day one, all my google searches, my trips in google maps, everything. And the best google can do is telling me where I am with local weather. No ****, I can do that by waking up and looking outside the window. It cannot even show me my plane tickets from Gmail (until I send them to kayak and then google gets the info from the email reminder from Kayak), my events from Gmail, nor properly detect my driving pattern after years of google maps usage (still only thinks I only want to go to wherever Location I searched last, nothing Smart there).

To this day, it still thinks I’m biking whenever I walk around with my moto 360. That shows how competent google’s machine learning or AI or whatever they like to call is. Skip logic I say.

I think there's something wrong with your device, permissions or how you use it. I find Google now quite intuitive and informative.
 
At least someone knows blue is a color people want to buy!
That's one of the ugliest shades of blue I've ever seen, though...

Now THAT'S a nice blue:
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But I think it works on the Pixels, with their toy-ish, casual design. It just looks too big and ugly on the Apple "Watch", with its much more pretentious design. I'm using quotes since it doesn't actually show the time all the time.
What is pretentious about the Watch design?
 
The Pixelbook is gorgeous but I don't know if it is worth nearly double the price of the Samsung Chromebook Plus and Pro. :confused: I'll need some hands-on time before I can consider it as possible replacement for my Macbook Air 11" and 12.9 iPad Pro.
 
Looks like Google declared WAR on Apple. They see an opening and they're going for it. Can't say I really blame them. I will never understand why Apple didn't buy NEST. The integration between Google Home, Nest, Cast, and all Pixel devices has me giddy.

Next up for Google has to be retail.

Next, maybe Google will sell a few of these and Apple will start to feel some pressure.
 
The Google Pixel earbuds are way more innovative than the Apple Airpods. Real time Google translation? That's amazing if you are traveling... and oh yeah RIP Apple HomePod... who's gonna use Siri when they have Google Assistant (way better)
 
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The Pixel 2 XL is well positioned to give the iPhone X a run for the money. Bigger OLED display with small bezels, similar features (no Animoji poo though), equal or better camera, and $175 cheaper. It is also going to get three more versions of Android on it which means it will be fully current through 2021. The lack of a microSD card slot and the removal of the headphone jack is disappointing. I don't have bluetooth in my car so the AUX port is the only way to get sound from the phone to run through the car speakers.

Not going to buy a new phone this year, but if Apple doesn't have something competitive with a modern design in the $800 price range next year I will be seriously looking at the Pixel 3.

Realistically though, Apple will still sell 10X more iPhone X than Google will Pixel 2 XL.
 
I have to say I bought my first Chrome Book the other day which was a Acer Chromebook 14 for $269.00. Nice aluminum build which feels nice ( not MacBook nice ) but for $269.00 what the heck and it has a really nice display. Ive been with Apple since '95 and system 7 so am pretty committed to them but this Chromebook is really nice and fast. The future is maybe not so clear for my computing needs now, we shall see.
 
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The translation feature in the headphones is amazing, but I feel Google made a huge mistake to make that particular feature exclusive to the Pixel. By doing so, they are undermining their other hardware partners.

Some brought up (few pages back), something I've ruminated over since the very early Android days, and that's the rather odd position of Google, providing an OS, not seeing revenue unless certain services are bundled with the phone and also being competitive in the same hardware market. This is an interesting example of Google wanting to create unique experience vs. Samsung/LG/Sony/whoever, in less of a partner-like move.


Oddly I am buying 2 Android phones this year, and nothing for iOS (for phones, as I picked up an iPad 10.5 I am typing on now). It’s not a statement against apple, Just that I was overdue for my development and main business devices! :eek:

Oh yeah, my Android dev devices are a couple of years old (one is MIA ...), mostly because I haven't had any work in that capacity, I figure if one of my main clients who has a *nice* "mobile development" effort of deck for us, doesn't go iOS, I'll score a Pixel for development :D
 
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