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Google Urges Apple Not to 'Drop the Ball' on Fixing Messaging in New Billboard Pushing RCS
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you are assuming most people use SMS they don't, they just use WhatsApp, signal or telegram its secure
Google wants iOS to have RCS to make their advertising business prosper. Have a worldwide customer base. I’m glad iPhone doesn’t support RCS. I don’t want ads.
Have a read :
I enabled RCS on Google Messages and all I got was ads (Update: Google responds)
If ads have started to appear in your Google Messages app, you're not alone. The RCS messaging standard may be responsible.
www.androidauthority.com
RCS Business Messaging | Google for Developers
Bring branded, interactive mobile experiences to the default messaging app with Rich Communication Services (RCS).
developers.google.com
I doubt iPhone-using Americans keep a separate app for their few friends who have Android. Americans, the target of Google's ads and the main users of iMessage. So yes, most people who fit this criterion do use SMS when iMessage isn't supported.
RCS is just the protocol, I believe you can support a subset of it in such a way that ads aren't supported.Google wants iOS to have RCS to make their advertising business prosper. Have a worldwide customer base. I’m glad iPhone doesn’t support RCS. I don’t want ads.
Have a read :
I enabled RCS on Google Messages and all I got was ads (Update: Google responds)
If ads have started to appear in your Google Messages app, you're not alone. The RCS messaging standard may be responsible.www.androidauthority.com
RCS Business Messaging | Google for Developers
Bring branded, interactive mobile experiences to the default messaging app with Rich Communication Services (RCS).
True, though I think it was considered the first "home computer", ie reasonable size/accessibility/affordability?There were lots of computers before Altair, some even as small as a home built Altair machine. (but most were much bigger.
WhatsApp is owned by Facebook. Never trust your data with Facebook, EVEN IF ITS ENCRYPTED.
Telegram, well let’s just say some certain government might be able to spy on users, even with the claim that it’s encrypted.
Signal is okay. But still not as super encrypted as how Apple does iMessage.
Apple stays at middle ground in terms of messages with iMessage.
Mostly true, but there were a couple of kits to make your own 8008 processor computer before the Altair. It was the first that sold a lot though! I was working on DEC machines in high school when that stuff came about.
It‘s standard TLS encryption. What‘s there to provide a source for? It‘s been the norm for decades and you‘re using it right now with this website (secure connection as indicated by https in the URL and a valid certificate). It‘s nothing special but it makes sure that only the client and the server know the content of messages, something SMS/MMS doesn‘t have.
I believe not for messaging, but correct me if I am wrong.
My comment was basically intended to say: Is the message encrypted on transit from the device to Google’s RCS servers? I think that the answer is no, and in any case Google has the slurping and data collection keys. Hooda thunk it?
the fact you want to limit yourself is your problem
If I'm not wrong, the GSMA standards mandates secure channel for cellular transmission between device to cell tower. If that's the case, SMS/MMS are sent via secure channels to your provider's network, like TLS. And I believe most tower will send data via VPNs back to the service provider's data center.
You know that most TLS implementation stops are the web-server right, due to performance reasons? After that, all data are sent in the clear within the data center network.
So in essence, there is no difference in terms of security between SMS/MMS and RCS (the non-Google version.)
Happy to be corrected tho.
No but they care about videos of grand children. RCS is not just about emojis.
Didn't know we had GSM standard experts like yourself on the forums, apologies
Either way, you know what i meant so the point still stands.
iMessage is fine if it does all that you need but for a lot of people it doesn't which is why unfortunately messaging apps like WhatsApp, and the likes, are vastly more popular.
Also why a cross-platform (there's more mobile OS's than Android and iOS) standardised "rich" messaging protocol isn't a bad shout but it needs to be the GSMA running the show not a single vendor/network etc.
How RCS chats keep your conversations secure - Google Messages
RCS chats let you send messages over mobile data and Wi-Fi, share files and high-resolution photos, show you when someone is typing, and show you when messages are read. When you use RCS chats, your
support.google.com
Entry „How we protect your data“
So, an android user recently shared a video with me of their kid taking their first steps. I’m sure that it would have been sent to the grandparents, too. Now, while I couldn’t see the texture of the cloth that the kid was wearing and I couldn’t see the taste buds on their tongue sticking out of their smiling face, and, no, I couldn’t very clearly see the grain on the wood they were walking on, I’m pretty sure that anyone that received the video would not only clearly know what it was, but it would also have the expected emotional impact. Current tech provides that quite well.
my goodness, Google seems like the supreme court insisting on saying that the Brazilian elections were honest.
Google RCS is NOT RCS and the point someone made was about RCS not Google RCS
But Google is the only one really the only one really working on theirs. Last I checked I think Samsung is too, but it certainly doesn't seem to be a priority for any of the businesses except Google. Google wants their protocol to be used or else why spend the millions on advertising that they have done? Hint: Because if they get their way Google will make far more.
Didn't know we had GSM standard experts like yourself on the forums, apologies
Either way, you know what i meant so the point still stands.
iMessage is fine if it does all that you need but for a lot of people it doesn't which is why unfortunately messaging apps like WhatsApp, and the likes, are vastly more popular.
Also why a cross-platform (there's more mobile OS's than Android and iOS) standardised "rich" messaging protocol isn't a bad shout but it needs to be the GSMA running the show not a single vendor/network etc.
Actually I don’t know what you meant cause you completely used a wrong protocol so I’m not certain YOU knew what you meant lol.
Gam standards have been around for over 2 decades almost 3. I get many in the USA are not familiar to them as many have been on Verizon’s old CDMA tech when global competitions standard gsm was used. It was the same for Canadian’s on MikeNet which became Telus and Bell Mobility - again long before converting to WCDMA THEN HSPA and LTE etc form there.
Even gsm core carriers shunned standard core end user dialing codes.
Name me 5 mobile OS for smartphones in use today by 4 major manufacturers with global reach and shipping devices. I’ll wait until 10yrs from now. And not niche products please. That’ll not satisfy your cross platform device of choice.
WhatsApp came to fame long before iMessage or signal due to fighting BBM on blackberry. I don’t see the same issue that occurred with BlackBerry’s BBM and BBOS/BB10/Blackberry AndroidOS happening to Apple’s iOS and iMessage. Time will tell though.
I figured it‘d be easier to digest for the vast majority of armchair devs in this topic, but okay…
As defined by the Universal Profile (version 2.5 from 16th October 2020, the last version I bothered downloading). Feel free to sign up and download the most recent whitepaper on the gsma site yourself: https://www.gsma.com/futurenetworks/rcs/universal-profile/
There is a difference when the spec is written as "should" instead of "must". Anyway, the transport channel should be secured, e.g. with TLS 1.2 at a minimum or other protocols, now compared to previously, where CPU overhead for encryption is comparitively higher.
But I have pointed out that SMS/MMS, based on GSMA's spec, also specified that the transport channel should also be encrypted. So in terms of security, there's no difference between RCS and SMS/MMS, contrary to what others have pointed out, i.e. RCS is more secure than SMS/MMS.