You're confusing Chrome (the browser app) and Chromium (the engine that runs the browser). Different browser apps written around the same engine can have different features. Personally, I dislike having 4 different browsers on my system as "backup browsers" when Chrome doesn't work but Firefox does, for example. Having all websites tested under one engine sounds like a win-win for me.
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Technically yes. But is anyone forcing you to actually use anything other than Safari on the iPhone? Because I never had a reason to download another browser.
Also viceversa.
Apple doesn't allow me to run PWAs, no push notifications (now is changing on Mac), and they have been keen to their app store for every molecule you breathe because of their pockets.
It's always good to have CHOICE. Nobody blocks you from continue using Safari.
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This going to be the start of increased malware in iOS as devs who have their own engines will now have their own vulnerabilities.
Ummm, that's exactly what Apple does and admits they do.
They collect your data and show you ads.
All Apple does not do it sell your data to others.
That was almost 30yrs ago and the internet as we know it was still new. Before IE was the dominate force it was Netscape, that's just the way it is. Similarly, saying the first mass adopted/produced automobile (Ford Model T) was a bad thing simply because other's didn't have the vision, infrastructure, money, etc in place to do it. The world has had almost 30yrs to develop whatever the heck they want when it comes to web standards. There is competition and if you don't choose to drive a Ford/Chromium then go buy a Mazda/Safari it's still going to do the job.
Yes, real PWA with push: https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/9658361?hl=en&co=GENIE.Platform=Android
Not the limited version of "add to homescreen" like Apple.
On the Mac Safari doesn't even allow you to do it.
Finally some freedom and fresh air, instead of being cooped up in that 800 sq ft New York or LA apartment.
Funny thing is when this stuff all goes through and things start going wrong...people are going to complain about it. Be careful what you wish for, because once you mess it up...it won't be easy to fix! The average user isn't out there clamoring for these things. Outside of MacRumors...you just don't hear the average user asking for these things or complaining that "Apple doesn't have this", or "let us do this". The fact that the majority is NOT asking for these things should speak volumes! Unfortunately, the vocal minority is going to ruin it for everyone, and then they won't be happy either when problems start popping up.
You're free to choose the competition that allows exactly what you want. Especially because the competition does exactly what you want...for much cheaper.
All of these changes that people want forced on Apple will actually make Apple devices LESS appealing. Why pay a higher cost to have the same garbage experience you can get on Android? I've had Android devices. Zero interest in Apple being forced to give us the same experience with double the cost. It's amazing to me that people KNOW what Apple is like...buy it anyway...and then complain about what it's like. Do people not research what they spend their money on? There's something out there that does EXACTLY what you want. So buy that something.
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So iOS and iPad OS can’t control security unless the browser is using Apple’s rendering engine? It seems like security (and privacy) is used as a crutch to defend any decision Apple makes regarding these two platforms.No drama, Google are just probably preparing ahead for Apple’s restrictions being lifted:
Biden Administration Report Recommends Sweeping Changes to Apple's Ecosystem
A report commissioned by the Biden administration this week recommended new legislation to make major changes to Apple's platform restrictions and App Store policies. The National Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA) is the president's main advisor on telecommunications and...www.macrumors.com
Essentially, if these changes are implemented, it would make iOS more macOS like, giving users more choice & freedom. Security could be an issue, but hey, we can choose what works best for us and Apple could still put warning pop-ups.
Not me, Safari fails for me on a number of sites including banking and investing sites. It fails in development when I have to access a http site instead of https. I would say that Safari fails for me about 25% of the time and I am forced to another browser. Safari has silly limits to redirects and other network stuff that may be fine in Apple's pristine labs, but fails in the real world. Safari could be so much better.
I have a Firefox extension on my laptop that lets me download YouTube videos. If I could get that same extension on my iPad Pro I’d ditch my laptop for good.
I agree. Also I don't feel it as robust as Chrome/Firefox (even worse if you add ublock). It doesn't give me that same feeling of trust.
25% of website doesn't react/play nicely as Chrome, and generally 1/50 doesn't work properly.
When I open Chrome I can pretty sure say that it has been tested widely as an application.
Safari gives me less this impression of maturity.
Android already has what you want. Freedom and fresh air.
Well I don't know about you, but I've never heard the mythical "average user" go on about the need to wall off the App Store or the benefits of Chrome using WebKit etc etc either. So by that logic it can't be that important, right, since average users are "NOT asking for these things." Not once has someone outside of MacRumors said to me 'gee, the only reason I bought my iPhone is because it limits alternative app distribution models and doesn't allow competing browser engines.'
That should speak volumes.
I wouldn't say that. Edge has been slowly clawing back at it and the MNC I work for uses Edge for work purposes. In fact, Edge is what Chrome should be. Far lighter on resources and much smoother scrolling with built in adblock on Android
3rd party browser engines being allowed has been my biggest with for IOS for years. I honestly do not understand how anyone could argue agaist this unless you really want Safari to be artificially propped up as relevant. I actually like Safari, but it really doens't have to compete with the other browsers thanks to the restrictions on IOS. I want to add one thing though: If third party browser engines are opened up, I will not install a browser directly owned by Google. I am okay with Chromium based browsers, but Chrome is not welcome on my phone nor is Edge because they are practically malware as far as I am concerned. Firefox, Brave, and Vivaldi are very desirable to me.
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Is Android good? I have never used it and refer to it as a Virus. But…. I may be doing so I’m complete ignorance.
Not really. Those 4 or 5 Google staff climbing on my back and reporting my every move to the three letter agencies does not feel like freedom at all.
Nope, I am forced to visit a lot of .net designed web sites for work. So I guess you could say that I get out more. You might want to try it.25% of the time? Really? Exaggerate much?
I agree, Android allows it, but Android is still too clunky, inconsistent, and gives Google far too much view into my life.
Some people purchase and use an iPhone for simplicity and/or privacy which I understand. I scratch my head when some of these people cry aloud that Apple is not doing enough to protect their privacy and then cry louder for apps like Chrome that don’t care about said privacy as it’s the parents companies bread and butter to harvest and profit from said users data. Some of these people also want a locked in ecosystem and some want choice. Some complain that they need at least 16GB of RAM to run Chrome on a Mac but want that same resource hungry browser tech on an iPhone just to complain that their iPhone runs slow, hot and has the battery life of a 90’s Sat Phone.
These people are all over the place in what they want it’s like a child in a candy store who is overwhelmed at the idea of being intoxicated by a sugar overdose.
Google has not even made Chrome to use little resources such as RAM and battery on a laptop with a larger battery and we expect them to suddenly rewrite and focus on an iPhone app, if this was the case why not do it for many years with AndroidOS. Has anyone even used Chrome on Android devices with little RAM the device and OS crawls and the battery life is anything to be desired other than to include more RAM and a larger battery. This is counter productive and an excuse to poorly written software and reminds me of the exclusion of FlashPlayer support on iPhone which I am pleased that the late Steve Jobs was correct in his reasoning.
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