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Can't wait for the authorities to force Apple to allow other browser engines at least. It allows me to update the browser on my perfectly functioning phone as Apple has refused to update Safari. No interest in using Google, Firefox. yes.
 
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Can't wait for the authorities to force Apple to allow other browser engines at least. It allows me to update the browser on my perfectly functioning phone as Apple has refused to update Safari. No interest in using Google, Firefox. yes.
if you think they Google or Firefox are going to make this work with older versions you are going to be disappointed.
 
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I'll chime in, prior to reading the whole thread, that this may also mean that hopefully we'll see a proper browser level ad-blocking that doesn't require the use of unknown third party adblocking vpn software that has never been independently audited.
 
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Can wait for real Firefox on iOS.
Competition is good.
iOS being limited to Safari's web engine is lame.
I use Firefox most of the time on my Windows laptop, and while a part of me would like to see that happen on iOS, a small part of me is apprehensive given the security issues I had over the years with my Windows machines.
 
Why? iOS is not OSX isn't a reason. The iOS version of Firefox works on iOS 13.

I'm not sure whether there are currently any obstacles to other browser engines built directly into iOS.

If an iOS update is required to make it happen, then you're out of luck if your device no longer gets updated. The fact that the initial statement was based on Safari no longer being up to date, which Apple traditionally bundles with iOS, you couldn't use a newer version of Firefox either.

That all of course assumes that using WebKit is somehow hardcoded into iOS. I have no idea.
 
So you are happy with an option that only exists because a web developer chooses to not support Safari? This is exactly what is going to happen more and more as Chromium based browsers will be the only working browsers soon after iOS and iPadOS open up to other browser engines. Not that I don't want them to open up. But I would like to know that Chromium keeps some form of competition.

Been wondering for a while why Apple does not put in the effort and make Safari the equal of Chrome and Edge.
 
My guess is
This going to be the start of increased malware in iOS as devs who have their own engines will now have their own vulnerabilities.
I think if there's anybody who can make it so you can "sideload" apps and still have great privacy and security it's Apple.

How they go about doing that I don't know.
 
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This is a Win for Apple and iOS and a loose for Google. Google should restrict whatever it can from being available to iOS to force users switch.
 
I wish I could have real Chrome on iOS devices.. While the bastardized one works well enough, can only imagine how much better it would perform if it were bogged down by webkit.
 
Are they going to pull a fortnight, where they complain to politicians and lawyers about being rejected from the App Store for “unfair rules?”
 
Nobody is blaming the consumer. Obviously, the consumer will use what works well. The consumer cannot be required to use certain browsers to keep competition alive. But you cannot put this on developers either. They will take the easiest road possible as well. Many companies don't bother with Firefox anymore since it fell below 10% market share. I don't know the answer to keeping competition. I do know that we are close to an Internet Explorer situation soon after Apple drops the requirement to use WebKit.
I agree we can’t expect consumers or developers to keep the competition. They will do what they do. So that really just leaves the government. The question is how well the government understands the situation, the options, and the corresponding consequences.
 
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Yes they actually do care. Chrome is the most popular web browser for a reason, to the point a lot of websites are designed to work only on Chrome.
I think they meant the web browser engine, not the web browser. Or at least, I think that’s what they should have meant, because yes, many people prefer one browser over another, but they don’t care what’s underneath, as long as it does what they want it to do. Like most people like/dislike certain car brands, but unless they’re a car enthusiast or pro, they neither know nor care who makes the engine inside (many times the engine can be made by a different company).
 
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I have found that most nay-sayers regarding Android have not used it in years or are just reiterating the rhetoric they hear.
That’s probably very true, but it’s kind of to be expected, in my opinion. Just in general, it takes a long time for a reputation to turn around for everyone, even long after a company’s product has become as good as its competition. Keeping in mind, there are a lot of overzealous enthusiasts out there, so probably for a lot of people, they have given Android a chance on the word of others before, but too early on before it was really up to snuff, and regretted it.
So the process really can’t be too forced. But I’m a believer that if the product is consistently good, the reputation will eventually correct itself.
 
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