This post reeks of bias. I'd love to hear your alternatives. Maps Gmail chrome and YouTube, like them or not, are leaders in their categories
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Google Working On Wireless Home Entertainment System
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
This post reeks of bias. I'd love to hear your alternatives. Maps Gmail chrome and YouTube, like them or not, are leaders in their categories
Bla bla bla - specs - bla bla bla.
If the general public thought specs mattered in what they perceive as a consumer electronics device then a 2.5 year old iPhone wouldn't be the 3rd best selling phone.
----------
Um.
There are more Hotmail and Yahoo accounts than Gmail.
Mapquest is the #1 map on the internet.
Internet Explorer is still the browser king.
Missing the point. Apple TV works, people's parents can plug it in, set it up, and use it. Not so much the case with the Google TV boxes. Google always seems to play to the geeks, hyping up features over usability. And that's great for geeks, but the reality is geeks are a small fraction of the mainstream market. That's what Apple gets and why they sell a ton of devices, you don't need to be an engineer to use them.
I disagree with YouTube. It even works in HD on my Samsung over Wi-Fi.
With the rest I totally agree. And all Google API sucks badly.
Install Eclipse and all the Plugins for Android.
Try to write a half-decent Phone App with GUI.
Compared to that, iOS is pure heaven.
Yes, I do think that Samsung and HTC are ahead in some hardware models.
But Android? No, it's no real alternative.
Android just is successful, because hardware makers need some OS to put on their shinz new plastic devices.
Google's Android really has no chance in hell. Just look at it.
AIM Mail is better. I had to switch to it because Gmail scales so poorly on IMAP. AIM still isn't that reliable, but it's better than Gmail. Unfortunately my employer is switching to Google Apps for Education next year. I'm hoping that G Apps for Education can somehow support more IMAP clients than vanilla Gmail, but I know that's very unlikely
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; CPU iPhone OS 5_0_1 like Mac OS X) AppleWebKit/534.46 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.1 Mobile/9A405 Safari/7534.48.3)
Are you saying I should use Exchange?
Are you saying I should use Exchange?
They`re already doing it half assed just like they do almost everything.
If they were serious about this idea (And it`s a good idea) they wouldn`t even mention it until they had a "fully functional" prototype package ready to showcase.
The articles I`m reading about this won`t even commit to it streaming video/TV.
They say "possibly will" and "may even".
Streaming music is nothing anyone who wants doesn`t already have.
Big F`ing deal.
If they put together the entire home entertainment package and did it well then they`d have something.
They won`t...they rarely do.
If Google would invest just the slightest more effort into some of it`s products instead of going off in 270 different directions all at once those few products would be exceptional instead of mediocre.
If they were serious about this idea (And it`s a good idea) they wouldn`t even mention it until they had a "fully functional" prototype package ready to showcase.
The articles I`m reading about this won`t even commit to it streaming video/TV.
They say "possibly will" and "may even".
Streaming music is nothing anyone who wants doesn`t already have.
Big F`ing deal.
If they put together the entire home entertainment package and did it well then they`d have something.
They won`t...they rarely do.
If Google would invest just the slightest more effort into some of it`s products instead of going off in 270 different directions all at once those few products would be exceptional instead of mediocre.
I disagree that a product cannot be objectively bad without a superior alternative, but sure.
AIM Mail and iCloud mail are more reliable than GMail. I had to set my GMail account to permanent forwarding two years ago because it chokes if I am getting mail on more than 2 computers.
As I already said, I prefer the G Maps interface better than Mapquest or even Bing. However, I've had terrible experiences with Maps accuracy outside of select West and East Coast cities. It's placed businesses and addresses in wrong locations up to half the time in some cases (off by miles), even in big metro areas like Houston and Atlanta. Mapquest, despite its meh interface, was perfect in all those cases.
The YouTube ads are unbelievably intrusive now that they block the content itself. I don't use video sharing much, but I prefer Vimeo.
I have no issues with Chrome, but it doesn't offer anything that makes me want to use it over Safari or Firefox.
Not a problem. The speakers will be in perpetual Beta, so it's not really necessary that they ever work perfectly.
Ehh, I feel like this is going to be one of the Google Flops, yes, Google is very good company with many successes. But you have to look at all their failures as well, they have had quite the many stinkers in the past, and I don't see what would make this Google "wireless music" setup so special. Its not really that big of a market, at least not Cell Phone big, theres plenty of entertainment center set ups out there. My guess is it will have access to your Google Music account. Whats next? A Google Mp3 player?
I just don't think this is going to go anywhere.
I just don't think this is going to go anywhere.
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; CPU iPhone OS 5_0_1 like Mac OS X) AppleWebKit/534.46 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.1 Mobile/9A405 Safari/7534.48.3)
LoL!
notjustjay said:
That's the one that shows you ads for foods similar to the ones that you've just expelled, right?
LoL!
Is that the reason why iOS apps crash much more than Android apps:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/tomiogeron/2012/02/02/does-ios-crash-more-than-android-a-data-dive/
Hey, guys! Did you hear? Apple is making a TV!
WHOOOAA! What's it like?
I HAVE NO IDEA!
Hey, guys! Did you hear? Someone else is doing something specific involving a TV. They're showing it off and everything!
Such copycats. WHY CAN'T OTHER COMPANIES INNOVATE INSTEAD OF COPY APPLE?
...wuh...wuh...wuh...what are they copying? Hooking stuff up to a TV? Comeon. Companies have been doing that since at least 2003.
Darp darp darp. Quack quack quack. I swear. I don't think I've encountered this large an amount of concentrated dumb since I accidentally ran across that Flat Earth Society meeting out in the woods that one time. Some of you here should be ashamed of yourselves.
WHOOOAA! What's it like?
I HAVE NO IDEA!
Hey, guys! Did you hear? Someone else is doing something specific involving a TV. They're showing it off and everything!
Such copycats. WHY CAN'T OTHER COMPANIES INNOVATE INSTEAD OF COPY APPLE?
...wuh...wuh...wuh...what are they copying? Hooking stuff up to a TV? Comeon. Companies have been doing that since at least 2003.
Darp darp darp. Quack quack quack. I swear. I don't think I've encountered this large an amount of concentrated dumb since I accidentally ran across that Flat Earth Society meeting out in the woods that one time. Some of you here should be ashamed of yourselves.
Last edited:
In other words, Apple should focus on the Mac again and stop working on that crippled Walled Garden platform?
Back on topic, I have more confidence in Google here than in anyone else - at least they promote open standards and play well with others. Apple doesn't, ghey only care about themselves. So whatever Apple will come up with in this segment, for me it's already dead on arrival.
Apple support open standards. Why do you think the iOS supports HTML5 and not Adobe's (proprietary) Flash? To use another example, from memory, when iTunes was launched MP3 compatibility was built-in from the start while Microsoft continued pushing WMA and charged extra for the ability to encode/decode MP3.
No offence but the idea that Apple are not supporting open standards is an exaggeration, usually from people that are misinformed about Apple products. I am sure that a lot of the people convinced that Apple are not supporting open standards believe Flash is open standard.
It should work flawlessly with your network straight out the box, afterall, their Google Earth vans were collecting peoples wi-fi network information and if you weren't secure that included passwords...
Whats the difference if its purchased or not? You could say the same about Apple, or any other company for that matter.
Apple didnt come up with multitouch, FingerWorks did.
Apple bought out LaLa to create iCloud and iTunes Match
Apple bought out Poly9 to work on their own Maps app
Apple bought out Anobit to create flash memory
Apple licenses Siri's entire technology from Nuance
Apple bought out Intrinsity and P.A. Semi to make the A4 and A5 CPU's
Apple bought out Polar Rose to add face recognition to the iPhone
Apple bought out Emagic to create Logic and Garageband
Apple bought out Sillion Grale and Nothing Real to create Final Cut
Apple bought out Spruce Tech and Astarte-DVD to make iDVD
EVERY_SINGLE_LARGE_TECH_COMPANY buys from smaller startups to speed up the process and get the right people onboard.
As for Chrome using Webkit, Google is one of the primary contributors to Webkits development, so much so that they actually work on it MORE than Apple, Nokia, Samsung, RIM or any other of the main developers. Chrome has been a hell of a lot more successful than Safari and have very quickly become the number one browser. In november it surpassed Firefox for goodness sake, thats hardly a failure in any shape or form.
People need to stop deluding themselves, Google has a hell of a lot more successes than people blindly make out.
----------
Whilst I agree that Apple support open standards, lets be clear here - they only do it where they need to. iOS is a prime example of closed platform and closed standard. Even down to the locked down use of the dock connector.
Lets also not forget that Apple has just stuck two fingers up at the ebook open standards with iBooks 2.
Oh yes they only have the most successful smartphone operating system, the best mapping features , the best cloud services and the best web browser along with so much more.