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Google makes some of the best mobile apps and services out there. It's a shame Android is such a mess.
 
How am I giving up my privacy by letting Google tell people I look up information about Windows, IOS, and Android? Or my porn habits?
I'm curious if you care if the NSA reads your emails, listens to and transcribes your phones calls, or put a GPS tracker on you to know everything about you. At least they have a legitimate reason to want to know who is up to what. I find it comical that people let Google spy on them for profit just to think they are getting something for free, but are terrified of the thought that the government they expect to protect them might be listening to calls. We've know for 30 years or more that they listen and track, but all of a sudden it's better to have a company who is known to hack systems to track people who opted out of tracking have access to even more data. No one caught this, but one of the features In thier new Google Now is the ability to read the content in other apps. So, they are aware of everything you do. They will know you banking info, and anything else you use you device for.

I somehow think people would have sued Apple for even suggesting something like this. "Apps don't need to implement support, it works automatically".

Your local television station provides free service over the air, should they have full access to your life and personal information just because they want to make more from ads using your data?
 
What about the privacy policy?
It seems Google can use your uploads without much restriction including creating derivative works.

I would be very weary of privacy issues.

They will be mining all that data to spam you with products.

By spam you mean include some ads to the right of your Google search results that you can choose to ignore?
 
I shoot at 24MP so, no, not for me.
Flickr is still the best for real photography.

I hope you were joking, Because that is a stupid comment: "real photography"

I have taken as many beautiful published photos with the Nikon D50 (6 megapixel?) as I have with the Nikon D4 (I don't know how many megapixels - cause its NOT IMPORTANT!). Joe McNally with an iPhone will out shoot me (most days ;).

An expensive camera does not a good photographer make.
Many megapixels does not a good photographer make.

:rolleyes:And you must suck as a photographer cause you are using flickr, and you can't upload RAW images. RAW "is still the best for real photography" you know.:rolleyes:
 
I wonder if the 16MP limit applies to any file format. Can I upload a 24 bit uncompressed TIFF file?

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I hope you were joking, Because that is a stupid comment: "real photography"

I have taken as many beautiful published photos with the Nikon D50 (6 megapixel?) as I have with the Nikon D4 (I don't know how many megapixels - cause its NOT IMPORTANT!). Joe McNally with an iPhone will out shoot me (most days ;).

An expensive camera does not a good photographer make.
Many megapixels does not a good photographer make.

:rolleyes:And you must suck as a photographer cause you are using flickr, and you can't upload RAW images. RAW "is still the best for real photography" you know.:roll eyes:


Yes you are right. So many beginners think if only they had more expensive equipment their photos would be better.

The Nikon D50 has more pixels then any display screen except a "4K" monitor. Most people can not display more than about 2MP. Even if you own a 4K monitor you can still only display about 8MP images.
 
I'm curious if you care if the NSA reads your emails, listens to and transcribes your phones calls, or put a GPS tracker on you to know everything about you. At least they have a legitimate reason to want to know who is up to what. I find it comical that people let Google spy on them for profit just to think they are getting something for free, but are terrified of the thought that the government they expect to protect them might be listening to calls. We've know for 30 years or more that they listen and track, but all of a sudden it's better to have a company who is known to hack systems to track people who opted out of tracking have access to even more data. No one caught this, but one of the features In thier new Google Now is the ability to read the content in other apps. So, they are aware of everything you do. They will know you banking info, and anything else you use you device for.

I somehow think people would have sued Apple for even suggesting something like this. "Apps don't need to implement support, it works automatically".

Reading your comments makes me think you don't actually know what data Apple collects, uses, and disseminates. Either that, or you purposely ignore what you know to further your Google is Evil narrative. Just an observation.

Based on your comments you're definitely not familiar with Apple's privacy policy. Else you wouldn't be typing a quarter of what you type. You should inform yourself better. As for the suggestion that someone would sue Apple for services like Google Now's... we'll see since Proactive is very similar. But I'm sure you'll find some way to justify it while maintaining your aversion to what Google Now does. That's talent.
 
Really? I'm not a Google apologist but there are some things Google does way better than its competitors:

- Search
- Personal email (leave corporate to Microsoft)
- Maps
- YouTube (videos)
- Customization and openness for a mobile operating system

Things Apple do better:

- Hardware
- Software (some aspects)

Things Microsoft do better:

- Corporate email
- Cortana
- Office

As you can see, when it comes to services, none of those beat Google.

I'll admit, I'm biased.

But in general as well, I would buy into something of Google's, and would often find a better option that fit my needs way better. So I am just speaking for myself.

So, I loved Android for being customizable but it was not as good as it should've been because I foolishly bought a cheap phone. It lagged, was never going to get updates, rooting was likely never going to really save it, I had to wait for certain apps and features that iOS users were getting first, the battery drained too quickly by the time I replaced it with my Lumia 635. And after playing around with iOS (on a work iPhone and a personal iPad) and WP I decided that Android was not for me outside of a hobbyist viewpoint because I want my phones and tablets to actually work even at the cost of customizing the devices, which was fine, because for me, customizing was just slapping some anime wallpaper over my screen (unless we are talking about Linux, I go out for that). And I have seen my family get Android tablets and phones and they all have had massive issues compared to my iPad and Lumia. Battery life issues, bloatware, bootloops, likely never going to get updated to the newest OS, etc. I will also say that we have gotten the cheap crap like Visual Lands but even the ones that should have been good like the Kindle Fire and some Acer tablets have been a pain in the butt for me. I just had some REALLY bad luck with Android.

Same thing with Google's Chromecast. Great idea, but I hated I was limited to using tablets, phones, and the Chrome browser to cast things. And when I got Crunchyroll for my anime fix, I couldn't use the CC at that point (Crunchy now can cast, but it never worked for me), I decided to get myself a Roku stick and gave my CC to my mom. Now both my mom and grandmother also dislike their CCs and want a Roku like me. I also just didn't like how the Chrome browser runs as well, for me Firefox worked way better, especially with how Firefox deals with downloads.

As for Youtube and Gmail, I enjoy Youtube. And Gmail, I just stopped using it because since I've pretty much don't use anything Google besides Youtube and Outlook fits a bit better with my Apple/MS devices.

And no doubt about it Google is better than Bing for regular web search, but I never got gift cards from Google just for searching and I feel that image search is better on Bing.

Don't get me wrong, I don't hate Google, but I slowly drifted away from them because of small things. Sorry for that novel dude.
 
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Not putting my personal photos on any servers and most definitely NOT on Google's.

Also Flickr's offering is still by far the most compelling.
 
Been using Google services less and less. Recently switched to Apple Maps because Google Maps started getting me lost AND crashing mid-travel. Its not fun trying to bring back up directions whilst travelling on the motorway (highway for you americans).

Down to using only Youtube, Mail and Contacts. But i'm probably gonna stop using their Mail and Contacts services soon and move to Exchange or iCloud.

I've just been finding their whole product/ecosystem to be less and less reliable and less 'open'
 
Awesome! This is sweet news, gotta love Google's willingness to include iOS users in their ecosystem!
 
OS 'X'
Android 'M'

Android's releases are alphabetical (as opposed to numerical) and each preview is designated by the corresponding letter before a final release name is given. ie.
Android K --> Android 4.4 Kit Kat
Android L --> Android 5.0 Lollipop
Android M --> Android 5.2 M______

That's not really copying Apple in any way.
 
OS 'X'
Android 'M'

Apple Pay
Android Pay


Hell even the photo logo looks the same.



Google really is the 'Hooli' of silicon valley.
While the whole pay thing is certainly too similar (probably to build up the public acceptance really), Android has been using letters for their OS versions for some time, and Apple has been using numbers, going to X just as much relating to it being the roman numeral for 10 as for other reasons. So...not really much of a connection there.

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Not putting my personal photos on any servers and most definitely NOT on Google's.

Also Flickr's offering is still by far the most compelling.
Flickr is still on some servers (Yahoo!'s to be a bit more specific). Pretty much any internet use is on some servers.
 
Third-party ads. That means that technically Google is selling your data to advertisers.

No. Just as Apple does with iAds, Google sells anonymous targeted ad slots to third parties.

E.g. if someone wanted to target 30-ish car buyers, then Google or Apple quote a price per view and per click. The third party provides the ads, and Google or Apple then display the ad to users that they know fit the desired profile.

The specific information as to which users those are, never leaves Google or Apple. In fact, it's highly guarded, because their knowing it while the advertisers do not, is exactly what makes the info forever valuable.

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Re: "you are the product" and other Cook handwaves:

It's interesting how many people ignore the fact that Apple has for a long time taken a billion dollars a year from Google to be the default search engine for iOS users.

If that's not Apple using iOS users as a saleable product, I don't know what is.

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So after some testing, it appears that even if you upload a photo that is 16MP or less, it will still ~downscale~ the uploaded image.

For example, I uploaded a 16 MP photo taken with my Samsung Galaxy S^ that was 20MB in size and the resulting uploaded file was only 1.4MB.

Another taken with my Galaxy went from 4.6MB to 2MB.

An 8 MP photo taken with my iPhone 6 Plus went from 1.6MB to 1.2MB.

A little disappointing. I was hoping that if it was 16MP or less it would just upload the original file.
 
This is awesome for Google users and should spur competition in photo storage from similar services but I am sticking to Apple holding my personal pictures. I trust them more.

I registered just to lol you.
 
Not trying to be rude here, but you are most likely outside of what they consider as a regular user. This is like a guy who hauls logs for living and complains about these 140HP, mini cars. By telling people that they are not REAL cars.

I have my iPhone 6, and my almost 10 years old 12MP DSLR that will do anything I need. I think this service will do just fine for most people.

I don't think he disagrees.

Also rather than the logging, I think a better analogy would be race car driving. Nobody hauls logs for fun then gradually gets more serious about it. :)
 
So after some testing, it appears that even if you upload a photo that is 16MP or less, it will still ~downscale~ the uploaded image.

For example, I uploaded a 16 MP photo taken with my Samsung Galaxy S^ that was 20MB in size and the resulting uploaded file was only 1.4MB.

Another taken with my Galaxy went from 4.6MB to 2MB.

An 8 MP photo taken with my iPhone 6 Plus went from 1.6MB to 1.2MB.

A little disappointing. I was hoping that if it was 16MP or less it would just upload the original file.

Wait, don't most cloud services do that with pictures? Then again, I never compared file sizes on the cloud unless it was a massive size....

EDIT: My OneDrive does this too. I took a pic and on my Lumia it's less than a MB, but on OneDrive it's like 400 kb.
 
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