The size of the bezel on this is no surprise, Apple have invested a great deal of resources into developing algorithms to reject false taps if your fingers holding the device stray into the touch area. Without that tech you have to make the bezel large enough to hold the device without your fingers entering the touch area. This is why the large bezel on the iPad is there and why it seems like its going to disappear with the next version as the mini has proved this edge touch rejection technology works well.
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Google's New Nexus 7 Fails to Attract iPad Owners
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Errr, or it could just mean people are happy to have an iOS device AND an Android device, whereas people don't want two generations of the same Android tablet.
Causation fail macrumors!
That, or maybe Tim just meant, the ecosystem is great for customers (rather than the stickiness of the platform).
You really need to stop making assumptions about someone you don't know and who is telling you the opposite. You're so far off base.
Yes - I do plan on getting one. What my time frame is - I am not sure. I'm not buying one this week. That's specific. I might get one in a month or two. I would imagine that by the end of the year - I will have bought one. There. Now you can avoid any assumptions and making them look silly.
You're really trying to analyze me - it's not working. Complete fail in fact. When I buy a Nexus 7 - I will not be selling or trading in my iPad. What hyperbole? Do you know what that word means?
And on you last point. I'm not uptight (another assumption). As I said - you can think what you want. And so can I.
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Exactly what I've been saying and yet at least one person here believes that the headline and article are completely accurate.
Why?
I guess it's the headline that bothers me here. At this stage in the game, I just don't see why any other tablet would expect to poach off many iPad users. Note that I said "many" not "any."
I'm a day one iPad adopter. I have several hundred dollars invested in software, maybe even pushing $1k. I've been living with these apps for years now, some of them have literally three years worth of historical data. Things like health and financial apps. The longer I use them, the more valuable they become.
A bigger screen, or an SD slot isn't going to woo me away. I can't transfer any of these apps, I'd lose historical data in 95% of them, my dozens of iBook purchases cannot migrate over. Who's gonna abandon all that for a few gimmicky features, or a few specs that "beat" the current-gen iPad?
I guess it's the headline that bothers me here. At this stage in the game, I just don't see why any other tablet would expect to poach off many iPad users. Note that I said "many" not "any."
I'm a day one iPad adopter. I have several hundred dollars invested in software, maybe even pushing $1k. I've been living with these apps for years now, some of them have literally three years worth of historical data. Things like health and financial apps. The longer I use them, the more valuable they become.
A bigger screen, or an SD slot isn't going to woo me away. I can't transfer any of these apps, I'd lose historical data in 95% of them, my dozens of iBook purchases cannot migrate over. Who's gonna abandon all that for a few gimmicky features, or a few specs that "beat" the current-gen iPad?
"Never LOOKING back" would be NOT hanging around the MacRumors site checking out the iStuff posts. If you were posting this on a Windoze Phone site then you'd be SLIGHTLY more believable.
I'm here for Mac news, you know, MAC Rumors. This article was also about the ANDROID Nexus 7 as well as the iCrap.
By the way "I never LOOKING back" does not make sense, that's why I wrote "I never LOOKED back". Go back to school noob.
And I am on WPCentral.
Side by side comparison makes N7 look even uglier. Bezels relative to the size of tablet. iPad mini looks balanced because of its screen width while N7 just looks like a big phone. In portrait mode, 4.75" iPad min vs 3.71" N7 is huge difference almost 30%. And in what mode people use the most on portable devices? PORTRAIT. That's why I never like an idea of 16:9 aspect on tablets.
Drop half size of top & bottom bezels on N7, now we're talking about the look.
Why would it? I mean who's going to ditch their time and $ investment in iOS at this point? Getting iOS users to switch to Android is as futile as getting PC users to switch to Mac in 1995.
Lol"Never LOOKING back" would be NOT hanging around the MacRumors site checking out the iStuff posts. If you were posting this on a Windoze Phone site then you'd be SLIGHTLY more believable.
Got rid of my BMW X5 and 335i and got Hyundai Santa Fe and Sonata. Very pleased with both, and I had been using BMW engineering since 2008.
How does it sound to you?
Comparing cars to tablets? You'd think after all the times this analogy has blown up in peoples faces, they'd quit using it.
BUT NOPE!
Lol. What... next to each other on the same side of the device?
Unless you have some sort of bizarre cranial deformity, you're going to want the speakers on opposite ends of the device to get a stereo effect when you're viewing media in landscape.
The hoops that fanboys jump through to declare a 'win'... I'm embarassed for you...
Lol, I use studio reference monitors for my speakers. You can't get any kind of quality sound from a tablet speaker/speakers. So, you can honestly take your condescending tone & mock "embarrassment" for me and choke on it. The "stereo" speakers on one tablet are NOT going to be significantly better than the "stereo" speakers on another.
The point I was making to the op is that, while the normal sized iPad did NOT previously have stereo speakers, the iPad mini DOES.
Try Googling it if you don't believe me. Also, be careful with snarky comments. You WILL get your witless self owned..
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Wow $62.00 for my 32GB Nexus 7 Gazelle? Really? They should just redirect to either Ebay or Craigslist for that offer.
Why does the branding always have 7 in it? What happened to Nexus 8?
Edit: Nevermind, I see they have a Nexus 4 for Phones, Nexus 7 for Mini Tablets, and Nexus 10 for full size tablets. They will continue to just offer updates to the same thing.
Edit: Nevermind, I see they have a Nexus 4 for Phones, Nexus 7 for Mini Tablets, and Nexus 10 for full size tablets. They will continue to just offer updates to the same thing.
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But a tablet is for on the move. If I'm listening on my Genelecs, then I'll be sat watching a larger screen... why would I be streaming audio from a 7 inch tablet?
Speakers separated by some distance horizontally will at least give a stereo effect, compared to the iPad mini's speakers mounted on top of each other. I'm having difficulty working out how you can't understand that.
And they're mounted on top of each other when you actually use the device in landscape, thus removing any stereo effect at all.
Your point is as pointless as the iPad mini's 'stereo'.
I think we already established that I accept that the mini has two speakers mounted an inch apart and vertically one above the other...
Top tip, noob - try making a sensible point. Personally, I don't live in a world where I carry my Genelecs around when I'm watching a video on a 7 inch tablet... nor do I view movie content in portrait mode. Do you?
I don't know why my age makes a difference. I'm 25.
I've used a mini, not having a retina display (especially when Apple pioneered the tech into the market), is sad. iPads are geared very well for content consumption. Both images and especially text look like crap on an 8 inch display of that resolution. The pixel density alone is a huge + for the Nexus.
It's amazing how much people here jump at the opportunity to bash anyone who promotes non-apple devices. I own an iMac, MacBook Air, iPad 3, and iPhone 5. My business isn't going to Google anytime soon, but the Mini having a crap resolution screen, and the fact that rumors point to its next refresh not going Retina yet, is, well, sad.
The premise if the article is flawed. It seems to assume that the majority of people who have iPads actually use a trade-in service. Frankly I simply don't think that to be true.
I have an iPad 3 and I fully intend to upgrade to the new iPad when it comes out in the next few months. But I also intend to buy the new Nexus 7. I'm certainly NOT going to trade-in my iPad for the Nexus. I'll pass it to my husband and his iPad 2 will go to the grandkids.
Look, the majority of people who own Apple devices aren't stupid. And frankly trading in any idevice in good shape to one of these services like Gazelle is pretty stupid when the resell value is so much better. And Apple owners rarely fail to point out that that is a major consideration for their purchases. So while the article gives some stats, those numbers are not likely to represent much more than a very small subset of folks.
Also, it's NOT A WAR people. There is nothing wrong with owning devices of different flavors if it suits your needs. This simply isn't an 'us or them' fight.
What is it with the 'winning over' BS?
I have an iPad 3 and I fully intend to upgrade to the new iPad when it comes out in the next few months. But I also intend to buy the new Nexus 7. I'm certainly NOT going to trade-in my iPad for the Nexus. I'll pass it to my husband and his iPad 2 will go to the grandkids.
Look, the majority of people who own Apple devices aren't stupid. And frankly trading in any idevice in good shape to one of these services like Gazelle is pretty stupid when the resell value is so much better. And Apple owners rarely fail to point out that that is a major consideration for their purchases. So while the article gives some stats, those numbers are not likely to represent much more than a very small subset of folks.
Also, it's NOT A WAR people. There is nothing wrong with owning devices of different flavors if it suits your needs. This simply isn't an 'us or them' fight.
What is it with the 'winning over' BS?
I get it now. Your name says it all. Firestarter... & you try to start flame wars. Sheesh, can't believe I didn't catch that. Ugh, sorry for feeding the troll guys!
You may think he's starting a flame war but he's right. Two speakers side-by-side does not equal stereo. By definition there must be some separation. And frankly, saying that you have the option to connect to separate stationary speakers defeats the purpose of having the mobility of a tablet.
Fair enough! You seem VERY level headed & that is a good point. I never said anything to the contrary, however. A poster had said "I'd choose the Nexus over iPad mini because it has stereo speakers, whereas iPad mini does not". The ONLY thing I said was "actually, mini has stereo speakers as well".. at which point flamestarter chastised me, insulted me, told me that I would say anything for a "win", jeeringly told me that he felt sorry for me. Basically just lost his whole mind, it was fairly bizarre.