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The internet, and now AI. I’m going to stop asking whether these things help or hurt us in the long run and just view it as the universe doing what it does.
Since the universe is on a overlong slide to total entropy you would be correct.
 
I suppose you could say the same for tools that let you erase things form a photo but at least there the use cases were more like a random person is in your background shot and you want to remove them. That seems less harmful.

"Random" people in the background, or former colleagues in the foreground that you've systematically executed to consolidate power and would prefer history forget:

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Erasing things from images can be every bit as harmful.
 
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Our transition from the Information Age to the Misinformation Age is just about complete at this point.

And there is very little we can do about it short of full-scale French Revolution, because the people with all the money are the ones driving the transition and are the ones fully invested in minority rule.
 
This has only sped up the ability of users to post 'obscenities' online. It is simply another input to an already rather unsavory (depending where you're looking) system. It isn't news.
 
Still better then what Musks AI allows and OpenAI's. Google definitely has shown in my tests to be more stringent. people will always find holes and gaps, these things are made by humans after all, flaws and all, but when people like Musk and OpenAI really couldn't care less about what people do, even if Google manages to reign things in more, there will be others.

What does Grok and OpenAI allow that you disagree with?
 
Wait, it's "terrifying?" Either the author is easily spooked, doesn't actually understand what the word means, or is trying to emulate the click-bait headline style of CNN and Fox News. There's nothing terrifying about it. Just sick people or (more likely) people trying to create controversy by pretending to be sick.
It is terrifying in that if I can take a picture of you and insert it into a KKK rally or a proud boy march or a nazi party and post that online. People have lost their jobs for things like that. Too many people here are focusing on the cartoons, which are not the issue. But being able to insert someone into a real life situation is terrifying.

And yes photoshop exists, but that requires talent, where as using AI doesn't.
 
It is terrifying in that if I can take a picture of you and insert it into a KKK rally or a proud boy march or a nazi party and post that online. People have lost their jobs for things like that. Too many people here are focusing on the cartoons, which are not the issue. But being able to insert someone into a real life situation is terrifying.

And yes photoshop exists, but that requires talent, where as using AI doesn't.

Should the tool be banned, or should its functionality be reduced because of idiots?
 
I assume the replies belittling concern over future abuses of this technology being a widespread pocketable app aren’t from users who’ve experienced getting email forwards from their grandparents with screengrabs from TV being presented to them as real. I was lucky enough to recognize the scene and send them the full video from the LOST plane crash they were presenting as found footage from a real crash.

My relatives have fallen down the media rabbit hole and will believe anything. Now “evidence” can be conjured up by any lazy bad actor with nefarious ends whether political or apolitical and a few top comments here act like we are overreacting to be playing Chicken Little.

Maybe you don’t know the Evangelical world like I do. I’ve studied their views and was taught to teach their apocalyptic prophecies. These technologies will be used, no question, to play into their scorch-the-earth fantasies and the bad actor who uses them best will come out on top with ownership of their minds. And I won’t stand and blame them for being unequipped to discern the real from the fake. This isn’t a free speech issue. It’s freedom to fake what is real at a volume their minds already can’t handle, turned up to 11 in quantity and ease. Maybe you can go on Facebook and laugh at all the AI tripe that gets passed as genuine, but many of us have to see these people in real life and know these are voters whose minds are easily swayed by lies. It’s only going to get worse and y’all nihilists are acting like we’re imagining it.
 
What is with the outrage from you/other media outlets? It’s like drawing but via prompt. Were you concerned about these “terrifying” images that people could draw in a sketchbook? Weird.
 
Image generation, or particularly image alteration, is my favourite use of AI right now. taking old photos and re-imagining them is great fun. I hope we reach a point where there are no controls on this and it can all be done on device, for free by reputable software. the user should decide what they create and the public will just have to get used to the idea that potentially nothing is "real" anymore.
Unfortunately i suspect controls and subscriptions will mean we never reach that.
Sadly, the tools that allow doing creative work for yourself and for fun also means the same tools are also available to people who are intent on spreading lies and misinformation to harm others. As you say, people will be facing all kinds of fake images, and I'm afraid the technology is way ahead of people's critical thinking skills and abilities to tell what's real from what isn't.

Getty and other news photography sources have already banned AI images, and any images that are created using (for example) Adobe's AI tools. It's a shame that social media sites, where false info spreads like wildfire, seem to have little interest in helping to make sure that people know whether the images they are looking at are real.
 
Disagree. There's a certain responsibility among intelligent beings to behave in the best interest of the greater good. Otherwise it's every being for themselves, and that's not a society.
Agree 100%. However “the greater good” is absolutely 100% subjective. Which is why my original post and your reply can work together. It is my subjective take that book burning goes against the greater good.

I don’t actually think Mac Rumors should take down their article. I think their article is contradictory to their own practices and that is the main message I was conveying.

Not to go too far into detail, but this website has banned users for pointing out certain articles don’t follow FTC regulations. It is a slippery slope to dictate who gets the power and who is “intelligent”. Information soon transforms into propaganda. Propaganda is free to go unchecked when book burning takes place. I find it less a threat to have knuckle heads making AI art and trying to rock the boat, than mega corps dictating what is offensive and moral for the masses.
 
Hardly terrifying, completely predicable, and was hoping Sponge Bob would look like Sergeant Schultz
 
Really? Might be normal behavior in one certain country, but definitely not worldwide.
Ah, the old "drugs, violence and illicit behavior are only bad in the US but nowhere else" tired narrative. Mao was definitely the right call for a profile if you're all about perpetuating hyperbolic nonsense.
 
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It is terrifying in that if I can take a picture of you and insert it into a KKK rally or a proud boy march or a nazi party and post that online. People have lost their jobs for things like that. Too many people here are focusing on the cartoons, which are not the issue. But being able to insert someone into a real life situation is terrifying.

And yes photoshop exists, but that requires talent, where as using AI doesn't.
That says more about society than anything else. Maybe people should be a little slower to condemn.
 
The images depicted are what was requested. An image creator that does not return what is requested, or forces its own editorial upon your request, is broken and useless and should be mocked.

Does Photoshop prevent you from drawing offensive things to some? Does MS Paint? Why should they?

Should your monitor auto-pixelate human anatomy?

Should a text field prevent you from typing a bad word?

If my tools don't do what I request or if they censor my input, they're useless.

Perhaps these image generators need a child-mode for the perpetually offended.
 
Can we get cartoon characters slaughtering people in Tiananmen Square? Or Pyongyang? How about Bert and Ernie getting pushed off a building in Mosul? Just wondering.
 
That is your typical India based Developers right there. Google is an Indian ran operation and the Developers are terrible. There is a long running misconception that Indian Developers are the best, I find that to be very old and inaccurate outdated news. Having worked with Developers in many different countries for many years I find them to be quite terrible they lack the human touch and tend to develop applications that are not user friendly, full of security holes, full of bugs and the apps are very inefficient (a common issue is too many clicks to perform a simple operation). I think the World needs to start paying more attention to Developers in other countries besides India maybe this will then force India to do better and stop padding themselves in the back thinking they are the greatest in the World which they are not! Sure they can do it for less but that does not mean they are good at it or do top notch work you get what you pay for!

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“Typical India based developers”…”they lack the human touch”….”I find them to be quite terrible”….”stop padding themselves in the back”.

Sorry, why do you think this type of borderline racist post is acceptable to make here? You have been REPORTED.
 
If we must remove everything in this world that someone may deem offensive.. then please Mac Rumors, I request you to take down this article. Please go through this discussion thread and read all the comments of people that are "terrified" by your team's take on this topic. Because frankly it is actually a lot more disturbing that a media outlet that wields power and influence is putting out propaganda that defends censorship. Please take your own medicine, or just stop with these ridiculous politically charged stories. Is this a tech site? Frankly it seems to be turning into Fox and CNN style news adjacent opinion influence programming. Journalistic integrity is still important in 2024, and your product is being severely watered down.
MR overzealous moderation is terrifying and should be banned.
 
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This will be horrible citizens as all kinds of fake news will be published with AI generated images. We can't question what is real and what is not any more.

On the funny side, I think we will soon see full movies that did not cost a thing other giving the computer the prompts. Long way since Toy Story was created in 3D images.
 
Ah, the old "drugs, violence and illicit behavior are only bad in the US but nowhere else" tired narrative. Mao was definitely the right call for a profile if you're all about perpetuating hyperbolic nonsense.

I'm not aware of anywhere else in the world where school shootings are a regular occurrence. There's definitely a disproportionate number in the U.S.

The idea that generating offensive images like school shootings is what "most likely what people will immediately do" is uniquely American.

Plenty of downvotes, but the truth sometimes hurts.
 
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