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I assume the replies belittling concern over future abuses of this technology being a widespread pocketable app aren’t from users who’ve experienced getting email forwards from their grandparents with screengrabs from TV being presented to them as real. I was lucky enough to recognize the scene and send them the full video from the LOST plane crash they were presenting as found footage from a real crash.

My relatives have fallen down the media rabbit hole and will believe anything. Now “evidence” can be conjured up by any lazy bad actor with nefarious ends whether political or apolitical and a few top comments here act like we are overreacting to be playing Chicken Little.

Maybe you don’t know the Evangelical world like I do. I’ve studied their views and was taught to teach their apocalyptic prophecies. These technologies will be used, no question, to play into their scorch-the-earth fantasies and the bad actor who uses them best will come out on top with ownership of their minds. And I won’t stand and blame them for being unequipped to discern the real from the fake. This isn’t a free speech issue. It’s freedom to fake what is real at a volume their minds already can’t handle, turned up to 11 in quantity and ease. Maybe you can go on Facebook and laugh at all the AI tripe that gets passed as genuine, but many of us have to see these people in real life and know these are voters whose minds are easily swayed by lies. It’s only going to get worse and y’all nihilists are acting like we’re imagining it.

I don't see the point in restraining society to 19th century tech because we're worried about people who want to pull society back to the 19th century.

We need to figure out how to live with this and to teach people not everything they see is true, while also teaching them that truth does exist.

That's the needle society needs to thread: how to walk the line between critical and cynical thinking.
 
Most tech libertarian arguments are constructed from a weak intellectual premise, they are often shallow and cynical, and usually display an adolescent, knee-jerk defiance. The term "freedom of speech" is thrown around, but never defined adequately. The idea of "the greater good" or the necessity of regulations and guardrails is dismissed. The perfect storm of instant fake image generation, combined with dissemination via the internet, is relatively new. Misinformation and disinformation has been around for a long time, but it has never been so easy to do so much damage in such a short time by so many people. At the same time, media literacy is actually declining and people seem more susceptible than ever to such campaigns. It doesn't bode well for society, but most people - especially in the tech world - don't seem to care much about even the concept of community or society. I'm old enough that I no longer care, but there will be repercussions from these tools and some of them will be severe.
this prose sounds like AI created the logic in this long, run on sentence paragraph.
 
It is terrifying in that if I can take a picture of you and insert it into a KKK rally or a proud boy march or a nazi party and post that online. People have lost their jobs for things like that. Too many people here are focusing on the cartoons, which are not the issue. But being able to insert someone into a real life situation is terrifying.

And yes photoshop exists, but that requires talent, where as using AI doesn't.
Yeah, as you said, it has been possible to do this for years. With how easy it is do pull this kind of stunt these days, I would think that anyone who lost their job over deepfakes or AI photos or photoshopped images would have it made in the shade after they win their wrongful termination suit 🤣
 
Yeah, as you said, it has been possible to do this for years. With how easy it is do pull this kind of stunt these days, I would think that anyone who lost their job over deepfakes or AI photos or photoshopped images would have it made in the shade after they win their wrongful termination suit 🤣
Aren't most places, at least in the US, at will jobs? They don't need a good reason to fire you, just as long as it isn't one of the protected class things. You have little recourse and possibly a forever damaged reputation.
 
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People can write anything they want on paper, and it's terrifying!

We better do something about books, cause people be writing all sorts of things in there. Some of it never happened!!!
 
I'm not aware of anywhere else in the world where school shootings are a regular occurrence. There's definitely a disproportionate number in the U.S.

The idea that generating offensive images like school shootings is what "most likely what people will immediately do" is uniquely American.

Plenty of downvotes, but the truth sometimes hurts.
It only seems disproportionate because no one ever bothers to take the time to factor in some pretty important variables like population size, significantly more diverse demographics compared to most other countries, historical events, different kinds of government and economic frameworks, bias in media reporting, and the list goes on. Anyone who isn't intellectually lazy understands all of this regardless of what views they may hold, but like you said the truth hurts sometimes. People in China would probably think to generate images of political dissidents being hauled off to the gulag or Uyghurs being forced into concentration camps. For the Brits maybe it would be something like terrorist bombings or getting stabbed on the street. These examples are disproportionately unique to their respective countries compared to mine but I understand why that is the case because of those factors I mentioned above.

Also, I'm assuming that by "everywhere else in the world" what you really mean is the developed world i.e. mostly Western Europe and Canada. Underdeveloped countries of course have violence all the time in their schools and elsewhere, if they even have schools at all and every child is allowed to attend if they do have them.
 
Ridiculous. The message starts by (rightly) implying that people should be responsible for their creations. Then, later you are blaming the folks for believing the creations are real? I suppose if someone steals my grandparent's car because they forgot to lock it, it's more their fault than the the thief's? That extreme is certainly untenable.
First, let's be clear: "the need to not make it incredibly easy to do nefarious things, especially as people and society are still adjusting to the fact that deepfakes are possible, let alone so easy" (what I said, verbatim) is not saying that people should "be responsible for their creations" in some absolutist way as you characterize it. So let's just dismiss with that outright (e.g. don't misconstrue the statement).

Second, Two truths coexist everywhere in life, society, nature, and technology.

Truth 1: People should carefully consider their media diet and there is a reasonable expectation that people should not blindly accept every thing they see, hear, read as truth or real (especially if it's on the internet from a source you don't know...and even if you do, do you want them to do your critical thinking for you?).

Truth 2: People should not yell fire in a crowded movie theater and expect to be legally, ethically, or otherwise acceptable or without consequence/sanction (although in certain cases, maybe you can, read the case law and opinions on the many decisions here, the discuss not just law but ethics, too).

Truth 3 (bonus): The analogy you posit is dishonest, it's not (yet?) a crime to merely have generative AI tools that let you create content. Are you actually equating owning or using a Pixel with generative AI features to grand theft auto? If so, yeah, we're done here. If you're actually intending something more reasonable and fitting as an analogue, then perhaps pick the situation more fitting: like you fell for an Onion article and believed it was true. It's not the Onion's fault you failed to discern truth from fiction/satire. Now, the Onion has a duty not to be so absurd (read: Orson Wells) as to create hysteria or panic (also fire in movie theater). And *that* the point you're missing here: that there's a complex balance in modern democratic societies that includes the reality that where one persons' rights and responsibilities end, anothers' generally begin, and so on and so forth. But, no, merely having generative AI features does not turn someone into a car thief nor are they even remotely equivalent.
 
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Would you believe me if I told you school bullying has been happening long before the internet and social media were a thing?


As evidenced by historical documents, the phenomenon of bullying is not a new concept. The fact that some people are frequently and systematically harassed or attacked by others is described in literary works and it also has been found most realistically in schools. Overall, considerable examples of bullying incidents among young people in earlier times have been found out through this study. In earlier times, according to descriptions in old documents from the 18th to early 20th centuries, bullying was generally described as physical harassment that usually related to a death, strong isolation, or extortion in school children.



Historical Context

Bullying behavior was first characterized in the scientific literature as part of the childhood experience more than 100 years ago in “Teasing and Bullying,” published in the Pedagogical Seminary (Burk, 1897). The author described bullying behavior, attempted to delineate causes and cures for the tormenting of others, and called for additional research (Koo, 2007). Nearly a century later, Dan Olweus, a Swedish research professor of psychology in Norway, conducted an intensive study on bullying (Olweus, 1978). The efforts of Olweus brought awareness to the issue and motivated other professionals to conduct their own research, thereby expanding and contributing to knowledge of bullying behavior.
It exacerbated it. No one said it started it lol
 
I don’t see the need for censoring… it will auto weed itself out.

Just like when someone who is generally rude and/or annoying (free speech and all) will end up isolating him/herself from everybody (at least from me), these people with crass or unappealing images would also be phased out or end up in some corner of the world.

Else, I’m starting to interpret these posts of “see this?!! With this AI I can generate horrendous images like exhibit A, and B and C…” as an excuse to sneakily generate them, show them and shock the world, but under the shield and pretense of outrage and disappointment.

We just need some decency, we don’t go around the streets complaining about how outraged we are at our pants of choice because they can allow us to go barebutt at any given time.
 
Here we go again with people taking all the fun out of AI to make it a clean packaged corporate clean shaven suit and tie how do you do HOA country club PTA board room awwww shucks let's hunt down all triggers wanton childish temper tantrums.

Spongebob dressed as a Nazi is ironic, which makes it funny. That is humor. But because Nazi is now a meme, and not a deep contextualized political system based in Germany during the 1930s-1940s, people instantly react and throw hissy fits.

It's like how they whitewashed Dr. Ernesto Guevara's legacy of mass murder, genocide, and disturbing violent behavior to make a T-Shirt making him a Rebel without a Cause instead of "The Guy Who Convinced the Soviets to Put Nuclear Armed MRBMs and ICBMs in Cuba, Starting the Cuban Missile Crisis."
 
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Honestly I don't care TOO much right now about turning cartoons into nazi's or whatever. It's when somehow my face gets put on a criminal video in action, and next thing you know, I'm on trial.

Yesterday I set up my dad on FB for the first time. I got the congratulation email, followed by a "Your account has been suspended for 120 days, please read our guidelines)." All I did was put his name and DOB! All I can think of is that he has the same name as me. They said I could appeal it, which I did, but I have heard nothing. I uploaded a photo was my only option. He's 84 and wants to sell some antiques on FB. He's 84! And you can't even speak to anyone!!!

I do not see the future in a positive manner, unfortunately.
 
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