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Google's Upcoming 'Night Sight' Mode for Pixel Phones Captures Remarkable Low-Light Photos
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Such as?
I mean the iPhone XS is "plagued" with issues as well. Charging issue (fixed), reception issue (lengthy thread on here about it), messed up selfie photos to name the big ones.
You might need an iPhone 11 to get this feature next year. Even the Pixel 1 will get this new Night mode. It's crazy that the iPhone X just a year ago don't have the latest camera features as the the iPhone XS. Of course the "A12" excuse is doing the work and yet Google is creating magic with even the Pixel 1 without any of these special hardware sauce.
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It's so simple yet Apple hasn't added the feature. Or is it magical once they do? BTW I just tried what you said with my crappy LG G7 phone bumping the exposure to 3200 ISO and 5 seconds shutter. It's an utter mess for noise and blurriness. It's no where close to the Night mode from Google and Huawei P20.
That isn't at all what this is. You're talking about one long shot. This is many shots, composed together computationally and accounting for movement.
Those are some beautiful shots. I prefer the punch of the Pixel 3's - I see a lot more of the skyline - but I can see your position as well. I'm curious - if you edit the P3's to reduce saturation, how does it compare to the edited XS shot?
How do I do this with my LG G7 has the same Snapdragon 845 and 4 GB of memory.
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I am so surprised Apple hasn't implemented this when it's so simple with increasing the shutter time open. How do you think it's not blurry?
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Can you tell me what these apps are? I want to try them out on my gf iPhone 6 Plus. I know it's pretty old, but would love to get that Night mode.
NightCap, Night Camera, Night Cam, Night Eyes are the ones I saw, there are probably more out there.
It doesn't occur to you that Google, with all their R&D budget, may do a better job than a few free or $2 apps?
I’ve said that Google’s implementation is better. I just don’t personally feel it’s as revolutionary as some are making it out to be. Similar camera tricks have been around for years.
I really don’t think so. Apple’s API’s make this data available to application developers and I believe they will keep the main camera app focused on trying to improve your run of the mill snapshots. I mean, when you consider ALL the things the built-in app can’t do now... that IS possible because third parties are doing it... it just makes sense that Apple’s focusing on the 80-90% of imaging situations and leaving the edge cases to the Halide’s and Focos’s of the world.
Regardless of whether the Pixel or the iPhone is better, I just had to say this.
As someone who has been doing digital photography since around 2000 (started with a Kodak DC280), my mind is COMPLETELY BLOWN at what phone cameras can do these days. My jaw drops when I see what these tiny cameras can do. Never in my wildest dreams 18 years ago did I expect we'd be able to take photos like this without a really long exposure and a tripod.
No, that’s the implementation/feature that we are discussing. It’s a cool feature, just not as revolutionary as some are making it out to be.
Now there’s a company that actually knows how to innovate
Yeah see their new Pixel for that confirmation. Nice notch and chin boys
Off the top of my head,
1) Photos taken sometimes not saving to gallery
2) Random notches appearing on the sides of the screen (you have to see it to believe it)
3) The back scuffs easily and there are actually videos floating around on YouTube where users are scrubbing the back with toothpaste and water in an attempt to get rid of it.
4) Hissing sound when using the the microphone to record audio (which is also pretty crappy)
5) Memory issue where background apps are routinely being purged
6) Distortion with the speakers (especially at higher volumes)
Any one of these would be a multi-page thread castigating Apple. With Google, there seems to be largely indifference. Seems that every flaw with Apple, be it real or perceived, gets blown way out of proportion while its strengths are underplayed. Meanwhile, the pixel phone is being graded on a curve where its one saving grace, the camera, gets a disproportionate amount of praise while every other problem is swept under the carpet.
Weird. Just weird.
I want this on an iPhone. I think everybody would win if everybody could get this kind of photography genius on their phones. I just bought an iPhone XR. I won't go Android. But I'd really like to get some decent brains behind the photos that get created.
Accept what? The latest iPhones take amazing pictures and for most people the difference between pixel pictures and iPhone their really is no difference.
It’s only mad techies who go into full comparison mode
That's not what he was referring to. He was saying if / when Apple comes out with something similar let's say on the iPhone 11, the will say it only can work on the iPhone 11 because of the A13. Apple consumers accepts this and upgrades. Google on the other hand offers the feature for all 3 generation of their phones.
For a company which invests billions into machine learning and other methods of data analysis, this is expected.
Still, pretty amazing results.
Still, pretty amazing results.
What are you talking about? A camera is one of the biggest draws for phones.
The post is about low light photography, not pitch black darkness.
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In the case where there is not enough light to render anything other than black/dim scene, what would you like to render?
As with all software/hardware integration, you make a choice as to what you want to create.
You want more dynamic range so you can see inside a room and see what is outside though a window, turn on HDR. This is not rendering what the camera sees and to get to what you see, some manipulation of the image has to be done like taking two pictures and merging them. This doesn't mean that you have to end up with a "typical" over processed HDR image that defies reality.
Same goes for Night sight, think of taking a picture of your kids sleeping and instead of a picture that you cannot use, you get one that you can. Having the feature doesn't mean that you have to have a scene that looks like daylight in that kids pic.
Either this is the biggest hoax everyone is on on with excellent Night Sight shots, or the images are true
Images on Google Pixel 3 would blow iPhone out of the water easy. Google's giving Apple serious battle.
Took some time to register that these were really night time shots
Images on Google Pixel 3 would blow iPhone out of the water easy. Google's giving Apple serious battle.
Took some time to register that these were really night time shots
The fact that you know all about these issues as an Apple only user would indicate that these issues are well known about.
These will be discussed at length on Android Central.
Are you complaining that they are not discussed at length on this forum?
As for the camera, I would suggest that Pixel cameras' praise is well merited and not at all "disproportionate".
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Close. I believe they are taking a series of normal-shutter + high ISO pictures over a long period (5 seconds) - each of which will be horribly under-exposed - and aligning + stacking the exposures, as one could do in Photoshop fairly easily. Doing so will often give "slightly off" colors or object outlines as there is a lot of noise being summed together (which removes a lot of the noise but sometimes will end up skewed color-wise if you don't have "enough" frames being summed). But, the "trick" they are then applying is identifying items in the pictures to give them a "solid" color that Google thinks they should have. Sometimes to unnatural garish hyper-vibrant results, like the fire extinguishers picture in the article.
The stacking you can do on your own. I'm not aware of any plugin that will do the color correcting bit though; that you would have to do by hand, and it is very tedious.
As with any stacking approach (aside from exposure stacking, you can also stack tones (HDR) or focal distances; very similar idea although those will not be doing a simply summation at each pixel), I suspect it doesn't handle movement in the scene over that five seconds very well though. So a picture of someone who is not very adept at holding very still will just be a mess. But capturing a scene without people, in low light, is a neat trick.