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Google's Upcoming Pixel 4 Smartphone Features Face Unlock and Gesture Recognition

ItsGavinC said:
Can't tell if this is sarcasm or not. Literally all you have to do is pick it up and look at it while swiping up. That's it. In fact, you can swipe up before you look at it and it will unlock after it recognizes your face. You can swipe up before you even pick it up and it will unlock to home screen after you look at it.
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^^^^ This.

Amazing how the above gets contorted into some kind a chore. And people reflexively believe it. smh...

My iPhone X is so fluid and easy on unlocking I never think about it.
 
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Curious why it needs a dot projector when it has radar?


Hopefully the combination will do better against the semi-evil twin test which is a weakness of Face ID.

 
HacKage said:
Yes, many comments on here about how Apple is better because they wait until they get it right before releasing something, but FaceID isn't it. It is nowhere near as fluid as TouchID, nor is it as fast. I have to manually type my passcode in far more on FaceID than I ever had to on TouchID.

And before people talk about it being so much more secure, show me where and who has cracked the TouchID protection, and why it is all of a sudden so inferior?
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You suggest people are actually going to argue with that. I think even the fans of Face ID realize it's occasionally annoying when not looking directly at the phone (maybe more than occasionally if you use it at your desk while docked, for ApplePay, etc.) and that Touch ID had some advantages. That's not to say Touch ID was necessarily "better" (though I prefer it), but merely that there is room for improvement with Apple's current approach. Surely that's non-controversial.
 
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HacKage said:
Yes, many comments on here about how Apple is better because they wait until they get it right before releasing something, but FaceID isn't it. It is nowhere near as fluid as TouchID, nor is it as fast. I have to manually type my passcode in far more on FaceID than I ever had to on TouchID.

And before people talk about it being so much more secure, show me where and who has cracked the TouchID protection, and why it is all of a sudden so inferior?
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No, FaceID is superior to TouchID. Never have issues with FaceID and I wear multiple glasses - reading, normal and sunglasses and sometimes no glasses. It still unlocks fast every time.
 
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Soooo how does it use your face it is basically starting to unlock it before you raise it to your face? I mean that is what the description sounds like to me especially if they are bashing the way iPhone currently unlocks. Also once it recognizes the face it opens automatically? That is actually a nice feature....
 
Honestly if the Google version develievers as it stating to be it is honestly a lot better than face ID.

I miss having a finger print to unlock my phone as honestly I found that system to be much more fluid and just work better than faceID. I have had to enter my passcode more times than I like to with faceID but on touchID or Google system it just would work making it easier for me. Plus it was easier to have multiple people (aka my wife) set up in the phone than with FaceID. FaceID it is limited and never works as well for that part.
I do miss from my pixel when I would unlock the phone it would go right back where it was instead of having to swap up. This all based on motion or the fingerprint unlock.

I would love if Apple would put a finger print reader on the back of the phone where the Apple logo is currently. That to me would be perfect.

It honestly the right way to go. I am not surprised it took longer to get there than Apple as with finger prints Apple more than likely took the best company off the market for the sensor so it takes time to catch up.
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realtuner said:
No, FaceID is superior to TouchID. Never have issues with FaceID and I wear multiple glasses - reading, normal and sunglasses and sometimes no glasses. It still unlocks fast every time.
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Cool for you. A lot of us it does not work so well. I would say comparing to the 2 touch ID would work 99% of the time. At best face ID works 95% of the time for me. That is a huge differences being 4x worse.
 
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RosOne said:
"Other phones require you to lift the device all the way up, pose in a certain way, wait for it to unlock, and then swipe to get to the homescreen,"

Google, you didn't even try. On my Xs I have to:

- Reach for my phone
- Grab it
- Lift it
- Face my phone
- Wait
- Put a finger on the screen
- Swipe up
- Lift the finger

So many steps, Pixel is better
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You forgot moving your eyeballs, taking breaths and beating your heart. Needs more steps
 
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There are benefits and shortfalls to both facial and fingerprint authentication systems. Different people are going to have different preferences, based on the usage and how their own face and fingerprints work with a given system. For my own phone, I choose to use the in-display FPS, but I also have the face recognition sensor on as well (yes, I know that 2D facial recognition isn't super-secure, and I don't care). 95% of the time, my FPS works great. It is very common for me to use my phone without lifting it from my desk. The other 5%, the FPS fails on my first touch, but the face recognition kicks in if I am holding my phone (and don't have it laying down). All in all, I rarely have any difficulties.

But that is just me. Anyone who claims one technology is great, and the other is terrible, in general is fooling themselves. Both are very good in general, even if some individuals have significant problems with one or both.

Google's advancement looks nice, but we'll have to see it in practice. I think it would be cool to design an OS that really used Project Soli to its full potential. I'm not convinced that air gestures are well matched to an icon/button computing environment.
 
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mi7chy said:
Curious why it needs a dot projector when it has radar?


Hopefully the combination will do better against the semi-evil twin test which is a weakness of Face ID.

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The radar recognizes the movement of your hand to activate the recognition system before you even touch the phone and for touch-less gesture navigation.
Curious what the power consumption is for this feature.
 
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rjohnstone said:
The radar recognizes the movement of your hand to activate the recognition system before you even touch the phone and for touch-less gesture navigation.
Curious what the power consumption is for this feature.
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In theory, radar should be able to do the functions of both, hand gesture detection and face contour mapping done by dot projection.
 
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3 years later and they just start catching up (maybe) but it’s waaay larger than Face ID so they clearly aren’t caught up there. The tech news people in China or whatever were right when they said Face ID was 2.5 -4 years ahead of anyone else
 
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ItsGavinC said:
Can't tell if this is sarcasm or not. Literally all you have to do is pick it up and look at it while swiping up. That's it. In fact, you can swipe up before you look at it and it will unlock after it recognizes your face. You can swipe up before you even pick it up and it will unlock to home screen after you look at it.
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I do this every day. I swipe up as I raise my 2017 iPhone X to use it. It’s ridiculously simple and fluid.
 
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now i see it said:
defenders of the  cause will try to denigrate anything not , but this Pixel 4 seems superior in many ways to the awkward, slow and unreliable FaceID.

Add to that no freaking horrid notch and a decision to forego the animoji cringefest, the Pixel 4 is in many many ways the iPhone I wish  made.

Nothing in the 2019 iPhone rumor mill suggest anything but basically the same old stuff getting sold again out of Cupertino with a new coat of lipstick - so the Pixel 4 at the moment IS the interesting phone to watch
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Sounds like someone is jealous because mommy never got them an iPhone.

Horrid notch... lol
Awkward... lol
Slow ... lol lol
unreliable....

My FaceId is just about as fast as it could be (it could be better if could detect your face in any orientation), and it has NEVER not worked for me... It literally happens in an instant.

So.... you either have an iPhone and you hate it and can talk from experience, and are assuming the Pixel 4 works the "wy you wish apple would",

or

You have a Pixel and love it, and assume Apple's phone's are awkward, slow, and unreliable.....


WHICH IS IT?
 
rjohnstone said:
The radar recognizes the movement of your hand to activate the recognition system before you even touch the phone and for touch-less gesture navigation.
Curious what the power consumption is for this feature.
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Why does it need to recognize your hand movement to activate the recognition system? Is Google’s Face Unlock so slow they need to give it extra time to start scanning?
 
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Just here for the comments.
 
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