Project Soli would be great for a smart watch that recognizes touchless air gestures.
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Google's Upcoming Pixel 4 Smartphone Features Face Unlock and Gesture Recognition
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You mean the face recognition which will unlock with a photograph of the person?
From what I'm reading, it is used to unlock the phone without having to make physical contact with the phone. The iPhone requires you to make physical contact with your phone to initiate the unlock process. I can see that being useful in certain circumstances.
We won't know how fast it is until someone get's their hands on it for testing.
No. It’s a short range sensor. And Google already had to apply to the FCC to increase the power level to make it work as-is (meaning close to the device). To read a face at a normal distance would require exponentially more power, so this won’t be coming.
Besides, Soli is a gimmick. I can see potential uses for people who have a disability, but for the majority of the population it won’t offer much of value.
I think Google is looking for something to use their new sensor for when they could have accomplished the same thing using a camera. My BMW has gesture control like this (I never use it as a button is just as easy) and it’s done with a camera. Much better range than Soli has and it doesn’t emit any high-frequency radiation.
You mean Face ID that unlocks with someone else's face? Same difference.
If you read the article you'd have the answer to your question.
As if Apple doesn't copy features from other phones. Oh right, but they do it better.
Except it doesn’t. How many times do we have to explain this to you before you stop reposting this FUD? I know I have several times already.
Samsung phones are notoriously easy to unlock with just a picture (or your face on another phone/tablet). Even their Iris unlock can be fooled with a picture and a generic contact lens on top. Garbage systems.
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I did read it. I see no reason to activate the recognition system until the phone is actually in a position to see your face. Unless it’s slow and needs extra time to start.
How much do you want to bet on that?
My mom's phone will unlock to my sisters face every single time. Btw we have retrained the phone multiple times deleting faces stored before hand. Only train it to my mother and it will unlock for my sister every single time.....
So no it is not infallible. It will unlock for 2 different people providing the conditions are right. Mother/daughter, father/son or identical twins for example all can run the risk.
Now it not going to be all the time but if and when it happens it more than likely 2 genetically seemlier people
Apple does not hide this fact, they mentioned that a twin and a person with similar genetic traits will unlock it.
iPhone Ecks
1. Reach inside pocket
2. Grab phone
3. Pull phone out of pocket
4. Lift device
5. Angle it the right way
6. Pose in a certain way
7. Look intently into TrueDepth camera
8. Wait
9. Keep waiting
10. Extend thumb
11. Put thumb on screen
12. Swipe up
Pixel
1. Just look
Thank you, Google for innovating.
1. Reach inside pocket
2. Grab phone
3. Pull phone out of pocket
4. Lift device
5. Angle it the right way
6. Pose in a certain way
7. Look intently into TrueDepth camera
8. Wait
9. Keep waiting
10. Extend thumb
11. Put thumb on screen
12. Swipe up
Pixel
1. Just look
Thank you, Google for innovating.
which makes me think of this system has attention awareness. If your eyes are closed will it still unlock??
You must using an iPhone X on iOS 11.1. I can assure you on my XR running iOS 13 Beta 3, Face ID is lightning fast and amazingly reliable. I have Require Attention turned off so it doesn’t need to see my eyes and there’s no issue with sunglasses etc. I only wish Face ID worked with any orientation, and once unlocked, immediately opened with no swiping.
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Apple said that the chances of a random finger unlocking your phone is 1 in 50,000. Going off of that number alone, Face ID is 20x more secure than Touch ID. Nobody even tried to imply it is unbeatable. It's all about chances of that ever happening.
Why put blind trust in BS statistics? Just search YouTube for "face id fail" which has tons of hits vs "touch id fail" which has virtually none. Apple should really call it Family and Friends Unlock.
Literally nothing in this post is remotely accurate.
So, can you authenticate Google Pay and Samsung Pay with Note 2’s facial recognition?
I think the answer is “no”.
I think that tells all we need to know about the quality of existing facial recognition implementations on Android.
Same here...in my household I have an 8Plus, and my wife has an XR. Face ID is far superior - I've set up the XR to recognize both her face and mine, and I've found it easily unlocks in low light, at an odd angle from my face, when I'm dressed like the Unibomber...meanwhile TouchID is foiled by a sweaty thumb.
Now, that all being said, the next logical technological step here is to magically have the phone project a heads up display of some sort, so you don't even have to pick up the phone. And boom, there we are...the Minority Report interface.
Or... its scanning your face and trying to recognize a match ahead of time, so its already unlocked when you actually want to use it. Unlike Face ID.
I almost never have to input my password using Face ID and font have to touch the phone to see my notifications. Big improvement over Touch ID. However having said that Apple raised the bar with Face ID two years ago....two year lead. Now two years later google is improving on the concept...bravo.
It cracks me up how many FaceID haters are still trolling the comments. Meanwhile Google takes two years and who knows how many millions of bucks copying it, minus the “swipe up”.