I saw how quickly a coworker was changing from the text screen to the home screen and what not, and I am really impressed. I'll stick to the iPhone for now, but the BB looks pretty interesting.
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Got the ATT Blackberry Bold a quick comparison to Iphone 3g.
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Why the bold doesn't come close to the iPhone.
For the one month that I had it, I had to go back to the iPhone ASAP. There were a few minor things that really really bugged me.
Here they are:
- I have some contacts that have more than one cell phone number. Like my cousin for instance. He has a US number (because he goes to school there) and he has a Canadian number here in Canada when he comes home to visit. I couldn't stand the fact that I wasn't able to put more than one mobile number. If I wanted to add his other cell phone number, I would have to put it under another category (ie. home, work etc). ANNOYING!
- The phone froze on me numerous times. I went from the iPhone to the blackberry to ESCAPE 2.0's freezing, and encountered it again. As soon as I heard that iPhone 2.1 was out, I immediately traded with someone from craigslist.
- Oh the SMS on the blackberry... I didn't like how it grouped it. Newest texts were at the top. OH AND GOD FORBID SOMEONE SENDS ME 2 MESSAGES ONE AFTER THE OTHER! The second one would create a new conversation - again.. hated it.
- People say email on the blackberry is better than the iPhone... well not with this bullcrap BIS account. Stupid stupid stupid. I put my gmail account under my BIS account and waited for all my gmail mail to load... but it didn't. I called Rogers and I was told that only new messages are saved to the phone. I'm the type of person that if I have an email and it's useless (facebook or something), I will delete it. Anything else, I consider it important. On multiple occasions I had to refer back to old messages but couldn't.
- This last one was good and bad. Since the facebook app was stock on the Bold, any facebook emails were filtered by the BIS account and I would get a notification on my facebook app. This was good, but when I got home, I would have 50 emails from facebook because people wrote on my wall and etc. I would've preferred to see the email, READ IT, let IMAP do it's thing, and then when I get home not have to delete50 emails.
The one thing I liked about the bold (no it wasn't copy paste), was the fact that I could search my media.
In the end.. iPhone > Bold
For the one month that I had it, I had to go back to the iPhone ASAP. There were a few minor things that really really bugged me.
Here they are:
- I have some contacts that have more than one cell phone number. Like my cousin for instance. He has a US number (because he goes to school there) and he has a Canadian number here in Canada when he comes home to visit. I couldn't stand the fact that I wasn't able to put more than one mobile number. If I wanted to add his other cell phone number, I would have to put it under another category (ie. home, work etc). ANNOYING!
- The phone froze on me numerous times. I went from the iPhone to the blackberry to ESCAPE 2.0's freezing, and encountered it again. As soon as I heard that iPhone 2.1 was out, I immediately traded with someone from craigslist.
- Oh the SMS on the blackberry... I didn't like how it grouped it. Newest texts were at the top. OH AND GOD FORBID SOMEONE SENDS ME 2 MESSAGES ONE AFTER THE OTHER! The second one would create a new conversation - again.. hated it.
- People say email on the blackberry is better than the iPhone... well not with this bullcrap BIS account. Stupid stupid stupid. I put my gmail account under my BIS account and waited for all my gmail mail to load... but it didn't. I called Rogers and I was told that only new messages are saved to the phone. I'm the type of person that if I have an email and it's useless (facebook or something), I will delete it. Anything else, I consider it important. On multiple occasions I had to refer back to old messages but couldn't.
- This last one was good and bad. Since the facebook app was stock on the Bold, any facebook emails were filtered by the BIS account and I would get a notification on my facebook app. This was good, but when I got home, I would have 50 emails from facebook because people wrote on my wall and etc. I would've preferred to see the email, READ IT, let IMAP do it's thing, and then when I get home not have to delete50 emails.
The one thing I liked about the bold (no it wasn't copy paste), was the fact that I could search my media.
In the end.. iPhone > Bold
I'm looking into getting either the iPhone or Bold. Although I like the browser MUCH better on the iPhone and it's so great to use, I'm leaning towards the Bold.
I've heard that there's virtually no multitasking on the iPhone! Is it true that it won't allow me to receive AIM messages in the background while I'm browsing the web and listening to music, say?
IM connectivity (not using SMS) is kind of a big deal to me, so I'm really curious about this. does anyone have any insight?
Basically it breaks down like this for me so far:
iPhone
Pros:
Better looking UI
Touch Screen
More Interesting Apps
Safari
Cons:
No Multitasking!
Touch screen keyboard
Bold
Pros:
Real Keyboard!!
Multitasking! (AIM+web browsing +whatever all at the same time!)
Memory card slot
Cons:
Web browser much worse than Safari
Not as sleek in the UI department
I'm sure I missed a few, but that's where I'm at now. Multitasking IMs with other apps would be a huge deal for me...
I've heard that there's virtually no multitasking on the iPhone! Is it true that it won't allow me to receive AIM messages in the background while I'm browsing the web and listening to music, say?
IM connectivity (not using SMS) is kind of a big deal to me, so I'm really curious about this. does anyone have any insight?
Basically it breaks down like this for me so far:
iPhone
Pros:
Better looking UI
Touch Screen
More Interesting Apps
Safari
Cons:
No Multitasking!
Touch screen keyboard
Bold
Pros:
Real Keyboard!!
Multitasking! (AIM+web browsing +whatever all at the same time!)
Memory card slot
Cons:
Web browser much worse than Safari
Not as sleek in the UI department
I'm sure I missed a few, but that's where I'm at now. Multitasking IMs with other apps would be a huge deal for me...
Would you sacrifice the full 3.5 inch touch display on the iphone for the better resolution, but smaller, non touch display on the bold?
it boils down to this:
multimedia/web browsing=iphone
anything related to messaging=bold
both of them do the other decently (except web browsing.. but browsing for any extended period of time on a phone is just kind of weird to me). just depends which you find yourself doing more on a phone. there are other frivolous arguments going around, but i think that's what matters phone-wise.
integration-wise though, blackberry integration on a mac sucks. you have to have a copy of windows somewhere. although google sync works pretty well, even pc blackberry integration isn't that great. can't beat the integration with itunes.
multimedia/web browsing=iphone
anything related to messaging=bold
both of them do the other decently (except web browsing.. but browsing for any extended period of time on a phone is just kind of weird to me). just depends which you find yourself doing more on a phone. there are other frivolous arguments going around, but i think that's what matters phone-wise.
integration-wise though, blackberry integration on a mac sucks. you have to have a copy of windows somewhere. although google sync works pretty well, even pc blackberry integration isn't that great. can't beat the integration with itunes.
Is the keyboard more spacious than a Curve? I can't type on a BB Curve, the keys are to close together and I hit two buttons at once, it's extremely annoying and I have small fingers.
On the other hand I love the BB Pearl sure type system, works awesome. Only problem is I had the BB Pearl 8120, and the call quality was terrible (a constant ringing in the ear) and the camera was useless. It was completely foggy, looked terrible. I couldn't believe none of the reviews mentioned these to issues with the phone.
And I know mine wasn't defective because I took it back the first time, got a replacement, and the second phone was exactly the same as the first.
On the other hand I love the BB Pearl sure type system, works awesome. Only problem is I had the BB Pearl 8120, and the call quality was terrible (a constant ringing in the ear) and the camera was useless. It was completely foggy, looked terrible. I couldn't believe none of the reviews mentioned these to issues with the phone.
And I know mine wasn't defective because I took it back the first time, got a replacement, and the second phone was exactly the same as the first.
Is the keyboard more spacious than a Curve? I can't type on a BB Curve, the keys are to close together and I hit two buttons at once, it's extremely annoying and I have small fingers.
On the other hand I love the BB Pearl sure type system, works awesome. Only problem is I had the BB Pearl 8120, and the call quality was terrible (a constant ringing in the ear) and the camera was useless. It was completely foggy, looked terrible. I couldn't believe none of the reviews mentioned these to issues with the phone.
And I know mine wasn't defective because I took it back the first time, got a replacement, and the second phone was exactly the same as the first.
how long did you try the curve for? i like the clicky feel of the curve's kb even more than the bold's, and the bold's is already excellent. if you didn't try it for a while, you should give it a longer shot to get used to the subtle touches it takes. you probably have to type more with the tips of your thumb more than anything.
I only tried it for a few minutes, do you think the Bold's keyboard is more spacious?
Why wouldn't you believe this? It sounds accurate to me. It's the same as using an unlocked iPhone on T-Mobile.
As you mentioned with an Exchange account it's different. My "corporate" email arrives to my iPhone well before it arrives to my BB. BTW mail2web (http://exchange.mail2web.com/) offers free personal Exchange accounts. I don't work for them and I'm not affiliated with them in any way...just sharing.
I'm not sure why but it's not the same. I switched my plan to a Blackberry plan because I have a Pearl and I figured it'd be fun to mess around with the BB Messenger on occasion. Upon putting the SIM back into my iPhone there was no data coverage so I switched back to the iPhone plan. Since then I've tried putting the SIM in the blackberry and have been unable to use the messenger or any other data-related function.
Really? That is disappointing. So can it not do custom categories? Man, I LOVE that about the iPhone. A lot of my guys at work have a cell phone, and then a work Blackberry. I love having a custom category of BB so I know the difference.
Interesting. I can count on my hand how many times my iPhone has "frozen." Of course, I consider my self blessed as I have not had to take it back umpteen times and what not.
That just blows. That would annoy me if I used SMS a lot.
Well, you have to define better. BIS is what it is, and that is, it is NOT IMAP. It just pushes the emails to you. But it does not keep your deleted items and sent items in sync.
Again, see above. BIS is not IMAP. They do not work or do the same things. You probably didn't have IMAP set up if you were using BIS. I never did when I had the curve.
I know several people who have 1st gen iPhones without an iPhone plan. Maybe it's related to having the BB plan as well as not having the iPhone plan. Of course if you don't have the BB plan, you'll lose your messenger and BIS account.
A lot of people don't seem to understand how BIS really works. They just hear the word "push" and that's enough for them. Heck, it's not even push on accounts that RIM doesn't specifically have an agreement with.
That's the reason why I can't convince myself to buy a BB. It's just not consumer friendly yet. Their services are still more geared towards corporations.
Well, when I had my Curve and BIS with Gmail, it did exactly what I thought it would.
It pushes the new emails to the phone.
But that is it.
They are NOT in sync other than being able to delete the email from just the phone or the server and the phone.
But your Trash and Sent items are not in sync with BIS.
Since 2.1, my iPhone has never frozen on me.
You can setup the BIS account as IMAP, however, all your old emails will still not be pushed to the blackberry which sucks because I rely on all of my emails like I mentioned before.