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No, you haven't 'gotta love' it. And I find the best way to do something about it is to log onto a random internet forum and complain and poke fun.

But I think their $327bn of revenue might suggest they don't really care.

Why are you people so sensitive!?! I haven't said ANYTHING negative about it....only that I find it an interesting and somewhat humorous way to do business.....

Good grief...

I want every single one of you standing up for Samsung in the face of literally ZERO criticism to remember this when you blast people for doing the same with Apple....
 
Wasn't this how it was set up? I feel like this was the only way this was going to go.

Only for those who wanted to go that way - was not my intention.

I posted a link to an article outlining a story I haven't seen discussed here yet. I make the comment that Samsung is applying their "see what sticks" approach to smartwatches and I think that's humorous.

2 posts in, all hell breaks loose....give the first poster credit. He/she actually made an intelligent comment.

I'm sorry people can't handle my opinion that Samsung's well documented business practices are humorous to me. Though I don't find anything inherently negative in said belief.

I'm actually extremely interested in the smartwatch and read any story I see on them....Samsung's included. I find the various paths being taken interesting....forgive me for wanting to discuss.
 
Only for those who wanted to go that way - was not my intention.



I posted a link to an article outlining a story I haven't seen discussed here yet. I make the comment that Samsung is applying their "see what sticks" approach to smartwatches and I think that's humorous.



2 posts in, all hell breaks loose....give the first poster credit. He/she actually made an intelligent comment.



I'm sorry people can't handle my opinion that Samsung's well documented business practices are humorous to me. Though I don't find anything inherently negative in anything I've posted thus far.


You are posting this in the alternates to Apple section of MR. Most of which is filled with Android fans. Honestly what did you think would happen? If you posted something like this saying the same thing about Apple in the iPhone sections what do you think would happen? You knew what would happen.
 
You are posting this in the alternates to Apple section of MR. Most of which is filled with Android fans. Honestly what did you think would happen? If you posted something like this saying the same thing about Apple in the iPhone sections what do you think would happen? You knew what would happen.

Because its a story about a Samsung product.....

What are you talking about "posted something like this saying the same thing about Apple"? You mean if you posted a link to an article about a new product about to be released and that you thought Apple's approach to product releases was interesting and humorous?

I'd say that sounds pretty common to me....plenty of people question Apple's approach (which I wasn't even doing to Samsung).

Problem here is, the lot of you are so sensitive about Samsung, you read negative assumptions into my post. Granted, I don't love Samsung - not really a fan. But I'm up front with that. If I had something negative to say about their approach here, I wouldn't hide it behind thinly veiled attempts at trolling....

Oh, I've also had plenty of good things to say about Samsung products - such as the GS4 I used exclusively for many months last year.
 
Because its a story about a Samsung product.....



What are you talking about "posted something like this saying the same thing about Apple"? You mean if you posted a link to an article about a new product about to be released and that you thought Apple's approach to product releases was interesting and humorous?



I'd say that sounds pretty common to me....plenty of people question Apple's approach (which I wasn't even doing to Samsung).



Problem here is, the lot of you are so sensitive about Samsung, you read negative assumptions into my post. Granted, I don't love Samsung - not really a fan. But I'm up front with that. If I had something negative to say about their approach here, I wouldn't hide it behind thinly veiled attempts at trolling....


I am don't like Samsung at all. Sorry I just did not agree with your assumption Apple would make something great.
 
Why are you people so sensitive!?! I haven't said ANYTHING negative about it....only that I find it an interesting and somewhat humorous way to do business.....

Good grief...

I want every single one of you standing up for Samsung in the face of literally ZERO criticism to remember this when you blast people for doing the same with Apple....

To be honest, I didn't actually read your post or click on the link, so I don't actually know what it was about.

But I find it odd that people take faceless companies to heart. They talk about them like friends and rival companies like enemies.

They all have ultimately the same goal - to get the money out of your pocket and make as much profit as possible. To think they have morals is quite ludicrous.

The few morals they do have are largely legally imposed and I'll leave it to the lawyers and authorities to argue those.

I'll just choose the product that best suits my need at that time. How the company made it isn't my concern.
 
I am don't like Samsung at all. Sorry I just did not agree with your assumption Apple would make something great.

I also never said definitively that Apple would make something great. I simply said you weren't even giving them a chance to try before writing off the industry.

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To be honest, I didn't actually read your post or click on the link, so I don't actually know what it was about.

But I find it odd that people take faceless companies to heart. They treat talk about them like friends and rival companies as enemies.

They all have ultimately the same goal - to get the money out of your pocket and make as much profit as possible. To think they have morals is quite ludicrous.

The few morals they do have are largely legally imposed and I'll leave it to the lawyers and authorities to argue those.

I think, to a certain extent, tech companies can feel like sports teams to many people. But that still doesn't excuse making up imaginary attacks to defend.....
 
I'm intrigued to know how a manufacturer developing and evolving a product line is see as doing a 'see what sticks' approach? Did Apple not do that with it's iPOD range then? considering it's made countless different versions now, you have to apply the exact same logic to them.

Anyway, making a smart watch that doesn't need a smartphone to make calls is certainly nothing new.

http://www.s-w-a-p.co.uk/collections/gent/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SWaP_Classic

The SWAP smart watch was first announced in 2010 and worked like a phone.

So whilst the Apple fans will praise them for the wonderful innovation they will create IF they make a smart watch, it will likely feature nothing that has not already been done. And smart watch's have been around for a while, the one I linked to above was announced 4 ish years ago which is way before any rumour of an iWatch let alone an actual product.
 
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Alright good luck with that. When watches become a staple like mobile phones then come back. Watches have been around for a very long time, and have never been as popular as phones. How is this going to change because Apple makes a smartwatch? The mobile phone was almost a staple for everyone at the time the the iPhone was introduced. The iPhone just created a new want for people that already had a phone. Do you really believe Apple can make people don't use watches think they now need one? You have bit too much faith in Apple. I like my iPhone and all, but at some point It figured out Apple could only do so much.

I think you should retract your opinion there as it is totally wrong, watches have existed for so many years now, the smartphone about oohh 17 maybe? So yeah, millions upon millions of more watches will have been sold then smart phones have, smart phones have many years to go to catch up with watches.
 
I think you should retract your opinion there as it is totally wrong, watches have existed for so many years now, the smartphone about oohh 17 maybe? So yeah, millions upon millions of more watches will have been sold then smart phones have, smart phones have many years to go to catch up with watches.


If you would have read my post right after that you would seen I was referring to all phones. Not just smartphone, or mobile phones. Landline, and everything else.

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I also never said definitively that Apple would make something great. I simply said you weren't even giving them a chance to try before writing off the industry.



I was not writing off anyone. I know Apple will do a good job because they always do, but I don't believe it will be anything like the iPhone. I feel like it's a totally different industry. Whatever it really does matter. It's certainly not worth an argument.
 
If you would have read my post right after that you would seen I was referring to all phones. Not just smartphone, or mobile phones. Landline, and everything else.


You should have just edited your post? Anyway I think that may still be a push, if your talking since the invention of the watch and the telephone, then who knows which is more popular?
 
I thought it was interesting. Why do you have to jump to the "Samsung haters" line? Who cares if I hate Samsung? If I do, its my problem not yours.

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Haha - so posting an article about a yet-to-be released smartwatch is trolling? I simply state that I think its funny they've released 4 (this will be the 5th) different smartwatches in the span of a year. All with varying feature sets as if they're not sure which one will catch on.

If Apple was doing the same thing, I'd post the same response. But I know they won't. Not how they roll.

Not sure what will catch on or making different watches tailored to different needs? Just how they have many different phones for different needs...
 
Not sure what will catch on or making different watches tailored to different needs? Just how they have many different phones for different needs...

I'm not saying it in a negative way - but Samsung is unique in taking the above practice to another level....

How many GS4 variants were released last year? Does any other smartphone manufacturer do that?

Again, not making any negative comments about it. Obviously its working for them.
 
You should have just edited your post? Anyway I think that may still be a push, if your talking since the invention of the watch and the telephone, then who knows which is more popular?


Popularity really does not matter I don't think. I am was just referring to the need of a phone, and how is has been a staple for most everyone. That evolved to mobile phone, and the to smartphones. Watches really don't fit with that model. Nobody really feels they need a watch. I just don't think the smartwatch thing is going to take off like smartphones. Apple and Samsung may make something great, but I don't feel it will reach the masses like smartphones do.
 
I'm not saying it in a negative way - but Samsung is unique in taking the above practice to another level....

How many GS4 variants were released last year? Does any other smartphone manufacturer do that?

Again, not making any negative comments about it. Obviously its working for them.

They made two versions, one was a smaller less powerful version, apart from that they do the exact same as the majority of other smartphone makers, they make a phone with varying storage size just like Apple does, and the make versions with different radios inside and as a direct result different processors so they can sell them internationally.

Popularity really does not matter I don't think. I am was just referring to the need of a phone, and how is has been a staple for most everyone. That evolved to mobile phone, and the to smartphones. Watches really don't fit with that model. Nobody really feels they need a watch. I just don't think the smartwatch thing is going to take off like smartphones. Apple and Samsung may make something great, but I don't feel it will reach the masses like smartphones do.

Well now your changing the topic, people do need watches as not everyone has a smartphone, some still see a phone for emergency's, some can't use a phone in the workplace and wear a watch, some treat themselves to a fancy watch, watches don't match the same model as smartphones because they are watches. And plenty of people throughout history have needed them the same as a phone, watches have exists far far far longer than before the first phone with a clock was launched.

If we talk smart watches, I don't know if they will be as popular as personally I think if wearable tech takes off then it won't be long before it's integrated in your clothes etc. That's something that has been talked about for ages.
 
New SIM means new line on the account...

I'm not adding another line to use a watch.
 
Anyway, making a smart watch that doesn't need a smartphone to make calls is certainly nothing new.

Especially for Samsung. Here's their watch phones from 1998, 2004, 2009:

1998_samsung_watchphones.jpg

It's interesting to see how the tech progresses over time.

There are also lots of Hong Kong made watch phones on eBay. For example:

ebay_gsm_watch.png

It was very tempting to get one of the cheap latter style for my daughter when she was like six, just to be able to know she always had a way to call me if she got lost while we were on vacation or hiking. Unlike a loose regular phone, this would be strapped on.
 
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Why are you people so sensitive!?! I haven't said ANYTHING negative about it....only that I find it an interesting and somewhat humorous way to do business.....

Good grief...

I want every single one of you standing up for Samsung in the face of literally ZERO criticism to remember this when you blast people for doing the same with Apple....

To be honest it isn't the topic it's how you have worded this subject. Can see why people would overreact. Looks like you are bashing samsung for doing this when I know that wasn't your intention.
 
Gotta love Samsung & their "see what sticks" approach

Especially for Samsung. Here's their watch phones from 1998, 2004, 2009:

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It's interesting to see how the tech progresses over time.


Good lord, look at that monstrosity on the left. I'm sure at the time it was probably an engineering feat. How do you even find all this stuff Kdarling? I had no idea Samsung had made watch phones in the past.
 
How do you even find all this stuff Kdarling?

Part of my job since 1995 or so, has been to find new devices to port mobile apps to. That meant collecting information on everything from hardened field gear to futuristic prototype phones.

We had custom one-off custom devices made for us (or demoed for us) all the time back around the turn of the century, from instant-on tablets to wearables.

Sadly, I deleted tons of such info to make room on a disk a while back. I could kick myself for the amount of touchscreen device history I've lost.
 
There's nothing inherently wrong with it, nor is me pointing it out a sign that I loathe them and want to start some flamewar..... (though I admit, I'm no Samsung fan).

Quite sad that it only took a few posts for this to blow up.

We KNOW you though. We know your pro Apple stance and I'm pretty sure you knew this thread would stir people up - I could tell this thread would be like it is just from reading the thread title...
 
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