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'GrayKey' iPhone Unlocking Box Seeing Wide Adoption Among Law Enforcement
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They will release with a different connector and sell it for double the price
Would you write all your hardcopy business contracts on paper, then staple them to telephone poles all around town?
C'mon MROD, what you're advocating is unreasonable from a practicality standpoint. To suggest a 50+ character passphrase as a viable security option for the general populace eschews common sense in favor of the absurd.
You know what's even more secure? A 150 character passphrase lifting 50 character sections from 3 different sources in 3 different languages changed every 3 days in 3 hour increments. I guarantee it would take another forum member less than 3 minutes to come up with an even more hyperbolic and outrageous scenario than mine. Pretty counterproductive don't you think?
Why does anyone click on Facebook adverts? I don't click even on their news links - and have zero info on my profile to loot anyway.
But, anything I do at a different site like Amazon or KBB, even with a different device, still shows up on Facebook promts, completely on point. Creepy.
To those who think that this is not a relevant tangent in this thread, we ARE discussing privacy as the treasure in the attempts to break into an iPhone.
Is there a movement afoot to encourage people from clicking on Facebook ads?
Why do people volunteer so much info on FB?
It is to prevent "non-regular" commenters from coming here from political websites just to comment on political topics. We all had to go through it - like paying your dues. I know it may seem annoying but I believe it is in the long term best interest of the whole MacRumors community to limit commenting on political topics to people are really the core Mac / technology community rather than opening it up to everyone with a political opinion.
They use tracking cookies for one thing. These get passed on to other sites, etc. More ad revenue. You don't have to click on an ad for them to make money either. It's enough that you SEE it. Clicking may be worth more, however. Why do people volunteer information on FB and elsewhere (Twitter is fun: Hey, I'm sitting on the pot right now at 6:30PM typing this message...oh boy!) ??? I have no idea. I refuse to join on principle alone. I don't want people to know what I'm doing all the time and I don't want to know what they're doing all the time. Some of my relatives have found on that other relatives are extreme Republicans or Trump supporters or Liberals! They now HATE each other! That's all it took. Some things should not be discussed if you want to remain social with friends and family...PERIOD.
Fair point. Will it let people who handle stolen iPhones to unlock them and then reset them? If it does, then it might actually be very desireable to organised crime.
While the statement about data is true in this context (breaking into the iPhone) personal data made a couple of nerds multi billionaires and stole the Electoral college.
Waste tax payer money is the single thing that the government excels and is always getting better at.
... says the person who immediately calls anyone who is not immediately praising the government a Trump acolyte & insults their intelligence.
YOU are the one obsessed with Trump. Everything is not about him, that person you implied was unintelligent might have insulted the FBI with fun names way before he was ever elected. Did not think of that did you?... The worst type people are the ones who obsessively attack others instead of finding their own passions. Maybe you ought to try being a bit more intelligent yourself?
YOU are the problem with America right now. I am sure you will report me (and this will get deleted because anything Trump is OMG we cant handle this), but give what I said here some sincere thought in your quiet time.
Seems strange Apple aren't trying to block it.
If these tools are for sale to anyone, then people can steal and unlock phones with them in an organised way. The idea that a locked iPhone is useless to a thief is what keeps people from being targeted for mugging of their iPhone. If these boxes get around this. You would think Apple would want to prevent this.
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I agree.
In this dark time we must look to the president to lead us away from the instinct to "obsessively attack others."
Why should you care?
One example:
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/10/cop-charged-with-stealing-nude-pics-from-womens-phones/
Here's a different one:
https://qz.com/1250825/stealing-pho...e-indian-private-spooks-tread-the-grey-areas/
Until someone collates this data and runs a program to try all of these ones *first* before beginning their regular cracking algorithm...
Anyway. 16 number passcode takes 3 days and it grows from there. I might take mine to 20 if I can think of something to add to the end. 79 years.
I remember reading the method this box took was slower than this website suggests ie 6 digit passcodes would definitely be cracked in a reasonable time (under an hour or so?) but not instantly.
My concern is the boxes being used by organised crime to unlock phones. Which would re-open the market for mugging people for their iPhones.
How do we know this isn't produced by an offshore subsidiary of Apple to get the FBI off their back.
A fellow named Beria (worked for J. Stalin) once quipped "Show me the man and I'll show you his crime". If someone can access your data, they can alter your data, even add to it.
How do you know it’s not fixed already? Do you think everything shows up in release notes for your reading pleasure?
If you are within 100 miles of any U.S. border, the CBP can search anything without a warrant. Call 911 in these areas and the local police will show up, usually accompanied by CBP.
Well said. For me it isn't a matter of "having something to hide" it is a matter of me "not having anything I wish to share".
There was a GREAT (but deeply depressing) movie that came out in 2006 called "The Lives of Others". It was a historic piece set in East Germany during the Cold War. It follows the lives of a young couple that, through no fault of their own, got on the radar of a man in power who wanted to know more about them. I encourage anyone who genuinely doesn't understand why some people are concerned about this device to watch that movie. They may not agree with the message of the movie and they may think "that could never happen here" but they will at least understand why some people see a lot of danger in a device like this falling into the wrong hands. Remember, the NSA can't even keep its "cyber arsenal" of hacking tools from falling into the hands of the "Shadow Brokers". What are the odds the makers of the Grey Box will keep their device out of the hands of bad actors?