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'GrayKey' iPhone Unlocking Box Seeing Wide Adoption Among Law Enforcement
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They would sue Apple for destroying their business and ask for compensation, and some senators would ask Tim Cook for questioning and how Apple is risking national security. Then Mark Zuckerberg would go on national TV and stated how he wouldn't be in that situation to begin with.
That's interesting. Thanks for the info.
[doublepost=1523592263][/doublepost]Sooo what ever happened to iPhones not being crackable? By the way, this is the kind of thing Apple refused to build for the San Bernardino case and others, with Tim Cook calling it a backdoor... IT'S NOT A BACKDOOR. It's breaking in through the front door. Their security is broken, and their blatant mischaracterization of the vulnerability leads me to believe they don't know how to fix it.
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Or you can be so confident in yourself that you don't care. Or be like me and don't give a crap about your "digital life." Another way to look at it
I actually still care but only because I'm afraid the gov't would leak info to criminals that allows for identity theft. But since we're talking about phones being cracked with physical access, I'm not worried.
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Haha... if those are like every lightning cable ive ever owned, they will go bad after a few months. hope that box allows cable swaps.
Out of curiosity, do you think that any police officer you pass on the street should be allowed to stop you and ask you to hand over your phone so they can browse your messages, photos, etc.?
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What is facebook? Im still on MySpace
[doublepost=1523597400][/doublepost]Everyone needs to start taking a thousand photos of theit butt cracks. If they want to invade your privacy and look in your phones, make em pay a price. Visual damage that cant be undone.
Phone security and general encryption on various messaging services were not this tight in the past. Did it prevent 9/11?
So, the thing to think about:
Is this situation ok where companies develop these tools that are available to any person with enough money, and the tool could get copied by the chinese and sold to any bozo with $10 and a connection to the internet?
Or, would it be better if there was an "official" way into phones that could be used after proper warrant has been granted just like any other "search" and hopefully diminish the market for these tools?
Is this situation ok where companies develop these tools that are available to any person with enough money, and the tool could get copied by the chinese and sold to any bozo with $10 and a connection to the internet?
Or, would it be better if there was an "official" way into phones that could be used after proper warrant has been granted just like any other "search" and hopefully diminish the market for these tools?
It is funny how Apple pretend to be against this kind of stuff, while instead it does nothing (and willingly so) and people still believe Apple is the prince on the steed saving your privacy.
Apple is a company, and could care less about your privacy, it is like ANY other company, sure they might not "sell" the date they have, because (for now) that is not their business model, but they are not the privacy saviour like user tend to believe.
Apple is a company, and could care less about your privacy, it is like ANY other company, sure they might not "sell" the date they have, because (for now) that is not their business model, but they are not the privacy saviour like user tend to believe.
Sure... but this box still doesn't disable Activation Lock.
So you might be able to unlock the phone... but it's still worthless without the user's AppleID password... right?
Gonna guess that not everyone is like you.
Or perhaps your ability to think past yourself is utterly useless.
He’s on the side that pays the bills.Shines the spotlight. What the heck, MacGuy. You are supposed to be on our side.
Yes, but data is only interesting at scale. It is not economically viable to collect personal data by physically tapping iPhones (unless you're a celebrity or other person of interest).
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From a criminal perspective, that would be the main topic of interest. However, to my understanding, the iCloud lock is something that is done server-side and is tied to the IMEI and serial number of your device. I don't think this device is capable of changing these unique identifiers.
Law enforcement don’t you have everyone’s fingerprints?
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Pretty sure the company only sells to law enforcement, or so they claim.
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Apple purchased how many?
Pretty sure the company only sells to law enforcement, or so they claim.
To prevent a bunch of bozos coming in and registering (or someone creating sock puppet accounts) to flood a hot button issue with drivel to push an agenda? They are protecting the loyal userbase from a bunch of fly-by-night trolls.
Because the Cambridge Analytica fudgery helped Trump get elected. They didn't care when Obama did something similar. Heck, they don't even care about Messenger for Android being literal spyware. I think the hearing was pointless. Just let people choose to join or quit Facebook. It's unimportant either way, and I personally killed my account last week.
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Can't blame the government for exploiting a vulnerability that exists. It's Apple's job to make sure those don't exist.
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Were you "overwhelmed with shock" with Oklahoma, 9-11, London, Manchester, Paris etc etc etc.
People who lost children and other loved ones in these events were overwhelmed with shock.
People who loose loved ones to crime of all sorts are overwhelmed with shock that takes the rest of their lives to come to terms with.
Please explain how your particular brand of shock equates to these.
There are basically two protections for your PIN: One is what you say, that only a certain number of attempts are possible, then attempts should slow down, or erase the phone. Nobody should get around this, but in theory it's always possible.
The other protection is that the iOS hardware itself takes about 80 milliseconds to try out any PIN code. And there is absolutely no way around that. That's why I say "8 digit pin code". With an 8 digit pin code there is no way around trying 100 million PINs at 80 milliseconds each, which takes 8 million seconds or a bit over three months as an absolute minimum. Of course you can use a 10 digit PIN or eight digit mixed number / letter PIN to make it even harder.
First of all, The Lives of Others is amazing movie. Young couple? How about famous actress and famous writer with dissident and progressive friends? Apple should try their best to protect customers data, it's hard job to do.
It's strange and worrying why Apple hasn't purchased one of these boxes to study it and come up with a security patch yet..
Almost like Apple has now come full circle. Steve and Woz started the business with the blue box to hack pay phones, now Apples phones are being hacked by the Grey box.
Like a lot have said on here, Apple will address this in the next iOS release or patch, it's just whether the creators of the grey box can stay one step ahead of Apple.
Like a lot have said on here, Apple will address this in the next iOS release or patch, it's just whether the creators of the grey box can stay one step ahead of Apple.
In your last article here on this topic it said (or it was a link) it was a licence for just one year, if that's the case those who purchased this device have to pay again $15.000/$30.000 to unlock the licence again.
Below you can see this, it says:The Graykey Licence term is one year from the initial device activation.
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