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Isn’t the E2E a Google implementation?

Apparently all of RCS is effectively a Google implementation. The network operators won't do it, Apple won't do it, Google is the only one that really wants it and Samsung is apparently along for the ride.
 
Apparently all of RCS is effectively a Google implementation. The network operators won't do it, Apple won't do it, Google is the only one that really wants it and Samsung is apparently along for the ride.
And frankly, much of the world would rather use WhatsApp for messaging, since WhatsApp is cross-platform.
 
And frankly, much of the world would rather use WhatsApp for messaging, since WhatsApp is cross-platform.

I would just as soon use open unencrypted RCS today with the people for whom the only option is currently SMS. I wouldn’t want to choose WhatsApp. If it’s not SMS, there are a million other options but if it was going over SMS it shouldn’t be sensitive so it doesn’t matter.

If e2e really is what held back RCS, seems like the perfect being the enemy of the good. Want secure communications, don’t use sms/rcs. Want secure communications, use almost literally anything else.
 
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That is to say, if I hear about deaths associated with winter cold snaps, it’s usually in Europe and not so much the US. Never could figure out why that is.

Apologies for the derailment. The northern US, even down to Texas, experiences at least occasional extreme winter weather due to geography. If you’re in Texas, a southern state, ‘There’s nothing between you and the north pole but a barbed wire fence.’ There’s truth in this when a powerful storm comes down in winter.

Accordingly, the houses and infrastructure in the northern US are insulated and built to withstand extreme conditions, and people know to have enough food and fuel in winter to last a week or two if need be.
 
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Apologies for the derailment. The northern US, even down to Texas, experiences at least occasional extreme winter weather due to geography. If you’re in Texas, a southern state, ‘There’s nothing between you and the north pole but a barbed wire fence.’ There’s truth in this when a powerful storm comes down in winter.

Accordingly, the houses and infrastructure in the northern US are insulated and built to withstand extreme conditions, and people know to have enough food and fuel in winter to last a week or two if need be.
Oh, doy, that’s right, Europe’s major geographic features are largely east-west, while North America’s are north-south. So European houses aren’t as well insulated as American houses? That makes sense, the number of days in, say, Italy that need extra warmth are probably far fewer than the number of days in even Kentucky.
 
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haha people are going to be so mad

I imagine that that’s true about the green bubbles. One thing that blue bubbles tell you is that your messages are end-to-end encrypted. Currently, as I understand it, the RCS Universal Profile does not support end-to-end encryption, so I would expect that the RCS bubbles will be green.
 
Something something never going to happen and yet today....
My position was more “it probably shouldn’t happen, because RCS has notable deficiencies”, but “Apple using Jibe” was definitely something that I felt strongly shouldn’t and wouldn’t happen. And Apple not using Jibe does seem to be the case.
 
Previously everyone was against Apple adopting RCS.
Now everyone seems to praise Apple for adopting RCS.
Such a hypocritical place.
 
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It would be so funny if Apple adopted RCS support but kept the bubbles green
Why would the change the color of the bubbles? It’s not like they are going to make the RCS bubbles blue. The only way I see them changing the color is if they want to differentiate between sms/mms and RCS. But that would take a 3rd color. Maybe red, or yellow, or orange… but they are never going to put the android texts in the category at the iMessage ones. It’s kinda their branding.
 
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What difference does that make?
If they're using Android, I will block them... 😜 Seriously, if they're using Android, I will read my text twice before sending, because unsending won't work. Also, I probably won't use reactions as they usually don't display on Android, unless I know they're using a recent version of Google's "Messages" app. Also, I'll make sure to send JPGs instead of HEIC files.
 
Mix the green and blue bubbles, for RCS.

Green Bubbles - SMS/MMS
Cyan Bubbles - RCS
Blue Bubbles = iMessages
 
Oh, doy, that’s right, Europe’s major geographic features are largely east-west, while North America’s are north-south. So European houses aren’t as well insulated as American houses? That makes sense, the number of days in, say, Italy that need extra warmth are probably far fewer than the number of days in even Kentucky.
Texas is way south of Europe. Paris, France is on the same latitude as the northernmost part of the continental United States. Texas is like down in Africa. Austin is south of Morocco or Tunisia. People don't generally think of those places as 'cold weather' areas.

In most of our Texas winter, you don't need insulation against the cold to survive. We had ONE 500 year freeze, and people who want to hate on Texas try to make it sound like civilization is going to end or that the grid is on the verge of collapse every time someone has a power outage.

We insulate against the heat more than the cold, so it is cheaper to cool the house down when it is 40C outside. The climates are different, but assuming you are sleeping indoors, the odds of freezing to death when it only gets down to 15C at night in the winter are fairly low.
 
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