A good friend's phone is a "green text" one. We text each other regularly. It works fine, and neither of us gives a rip about it.
Same here.
A good friend's phone is a "green text" one. We text each other regularly. It works fine, and neither of us gives a rip about it.
Ah, I see, small business IT makes sense. The other option, instead of a roll your own option, might be Google Workspaces, but, in a BYOD world, Google Workspaces makes much less sense.I'm an IT Manager at a wool combing company, so not fortune anything and small, and I have to help the users quite frequently to do things like this. Pictures of broken parts and machines, mill pictures, things like that. We don't have some of the common ways to transfer files in a user friendly way like you may have.
Apple is top priority 🤦🏻♂️They’re going to be busy figuring out how to pay for heating this winter. Maybe next year.
Wouldn’t be the first time in my memory that Europe kicked the can down the road on the hard questions, like winter heating.
Nah, I’m sure Google doesn't scan anything 😉Yes let's just stick with an outdated and unsecure communication protocol based on your unproved assumption that Google scans all its messaging platforms. Maybe you should look at the definition of end-to-end encryption (I'll give you a hint, SMS doesn't support E2EE).
You seem super mad and triggered at literally everyone who doesn’t agree with your opinionDid you ever try to manage a group with at least one green bubble friend? Or tried to send high quality pictures? Or maybe you just want your green bubbles to have end-to-end encryption? SMS is terrible, and iPhone users have to deal with that constantly (maybe not in the US, but shockingly, there are other people on this planet). It's as bad of an experience for Apple users than it is for Android users. So to your question, I care, even if I have no intention to move to Android
You claimed that Google scans its users' messages (without evidence of that), but Google can't scan them if they're fully encrypted end-to-end, which is why I mentioned the level of encryption in RCS vs SMSAlso I never said it was end to end encrypted or secure did I?
Not at all; people asked me questions, I replied with more details on my stanceYou seem super mad and triggered at literally everyone who doesn’t agree with your opinion
You’ll forgive me if that sounds a little like “I’ve got an uncle who works at Nintendo” from my schoolyard days. But seriously, I think it would be highly inappropriate for the EU to force integration via RCS, as it would effectively force everyone to conform to Google’s platform (as it’s pretty much the only RCS service that exists anymore). If they force interoperability, they shouldn’t privilege one platform participant’s protocol over another’s. And, if they do choose RCS, then we can almost be certain that it’s European telecoms who pushed for it (given that there’s no love lost between the EU and Google).I have close contact with a EU member regulatory agency and know they're going to force Apple to integrate just like the Lightening/USB-C issue...soon to be a new door in Apple's walled garden.
But that level of encryption isn’t actually a feature of RCS. It’s only a feature of Google’s proprietary extensions that are only available via Google Messages. Base RCS has no encryption. I’m starting to sound like a broken record, but people need to stop conflating RCS and Google Messages, they’re not the same thing.You claimed that Google scans its users' messages (without evidence of that), but Google can't scan them if they're fully encrypted end-to-end, which is why I mentioned the level of encryption in RCS vs SMS
Not at all; people asked me questions, I replied with more details on my stance
Of course, that would immediately bring the anti-trust hammer down hard on Google and would likely force an AT&T style breakup, so it’s the absolute last thing they’d do.Google can easily get Apple to support rcs. All they have to do is tell Apple that any Google apps or services will not work on Apple products.
Then run adds saying if you want youtube buy an android lol
But imessage not being cross platform won't right? Jobs even said it would be open source for cross platform when it was released.Of course, that would immediately bring the anti-trust hammer down hard on Google and would likely force an AT&T style breakup, so it’s the absolute last thing they’d do.
I'm with you. The world has larger concerns at the moment.How is a green message button a bad experience? and who cares? If you want android and your friends are on Android, this literally has no meaning for you
So admirable...Apple will take care of it when it benefits Apple. Not Google, not Samsung, not even the users but Apple.
This is the same BS with Airtags. There are trackers that are nearly indetectable except by the person who planted it, but they always bash Apple. Apple's at least chirp and can be detected by the stalkee with a cellAny digital device can be spied on, people act like Apple is way better. sigh.
Hard to say on that one. But Google banning iPhones from YouTube, Gmail, and Google Search over not supporting RCS certainly would.But imessage not being cross platform won't right? Jobs even said it would be open source for cross platform when it was released.
This seems an odd argument, equivalent to arguing that Apple shouldn't use http/https and should makeup their own web protocol. Having all phones use the same standards/protocols is better for everyone. Manufacturers should stand out for how they implement hardware and software features, not by how they hold out against creating user-friendly interoperability.who said iMessages experience is bad ?
I am perfectly fine with iMessages.
Apple customers are not complaining, Google & Samsung are complaining.
If people want to communicate with people who won Android phones then there are other apps for that.
We don't want Google and Apple as monopoly in messages, we need competition.
If Apple & Google both use RCS then why would any one use any other apps for texting ?
Hard to say on that one. But Google banning iPhones from YouTube, Gmail, and Google Search over not supporting RCS certainly would.
This is both 1) only partly true and 2) not useful. RCS is a protocol. iMessage the protocol is also not end-to-end encrypted, because end-to-end encryption is a client feature implemented only by Apple's proprietary client. RCS the protocol is encrypted in transit, per its specification, but of course that only applies between hops.But that level of encryption isn’t actually a feature of RCS. It’s only a feature of Google’s proprietary extensions that are only available via Google Messages. Base RCS has no encryption.
Would hurt google more than apple.Hard to say on that one. But Google banning iPhones from YouTube, Gmail, and Google Search over not supporting RCS certainly would.
It is NOT a Google Standard, it is a GSMA standard. But the network cartels couldn’t make money off of it. It only seems like a Google standard because Google is now the only one implementing and pushing for it because they failed after decades of floundering to establish their own locked in messaging system.
The base facts are easily verified with a five minute Google search. Try starting with the Wikipedia page for RCS.