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'Green Bubbles and Blue Bubbles Want to Be Together' Says Samsung Ad Pushing Apple to Adopt RCS
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Ah, I see, small business IT makes sense. The other option, instead of a roll your own option, might be Google Workspaces, but, in a BYOD world, Google Workspaces makes much less sense.
Wouldn’t be the first time in my memory that Europe kicked the can down the road on the hard questions, like winter heating.
That is to say, if I hear about deaths associated with winter cold snaps, it’s usually in Europe and not so much the US. Never could figure out why that is. With heatwaves, it’s clearly because more Americans have air conditioning, and AC legitimately saves lives in heat waves (hence “cooling centers” during urban heatwaves). With heating, I’d have to assume that most urban American homes are heated similarly to urban European homes (natural gas furnaces, boilers and radiators, maybe central steam, maybe heat pumps, that sort of thing).
Nah, I’m sure Google doesn't scan anything 😉
Also I never said it was end to end encrypted or secure did I?
Thanks for putting words in my mouth😂😂😘
You seem super mad and triggered at literally everyone who doesn’t agree with your opinion
You claimed that Google scans its users' messages (without evidence of that), but Google can't scan them if they're fully encrypted end-to-end, which is why I mentioned the level of encryption in RCS vs SMS
Not at all; people asked me questions, I replied with more details on my stance
You’ll forgive me if that sounds a little like “I’ve got an uncle who works at Nintendo” from my schoolyard days. But seriously, I think it would be highly inappropriate for the EU to force integration via RCS, as it would effectively force everyone to conform to Google’s platform (as it’s pretty much the only RCS service that exists anymore). If they force interoperability, they shouldn’t privilege one platform participant’s protocol over another’s. And, if they do choose RCS, then we can almost be certain that it’s European telecoms who pushed for it (given that there’s no love lost between the EU and Google).
But that level of encryption isn’t actually a feature of RCS. It’s only a feature of Google’s proprietary extensions that are only available via Google Messages. Base RCS has no encryption. I’m starting to sound like a broken record, but people need to stop conflating RCS and Google Messages, they’re not the same thing.
Anyway, the implication of the post you quoted probably had less to do with Google Messages (which Google probably can’t scan, since it’s end to end encrypted - unless, of course, Google Messages scans it when it’s plaintext on your phone, analyzes it locally, and sends advertising relevant data back in telemetry) and probably had more to do with Google Jibe, which isn’t encrypted (unless you also use Google Messages).
Of course, that would immediately bring the anti-trust hammer down hard on Google and would likely force an AT&T style breakup, so it’s the absolute last thing they’d do.
Apple using this strategy must be effective for converting users to their platform or something otherwise why would they spend money getting Apple to adopt this standard?
But imessage not being cross platform won't right? Jobs even said it would be open source for cross platform when it was released.
Never even saw the commercial to know if they used the song, but now "So Happy Together" is stuck in my head.
I'm with you. The world has larger concerns at the moment.
I cannot wait for the green/blue bubble to actually be in the top ten worries of the world.
Could Android could make their OS display blue bubbles for Android and "boring" grey for Apple messages?
Then only Apple users get "annoyed" by the green bubbles.
This is the same BS with Airtags. There are trackers that are nearly indetectable except by the person who planted it, but they always bash Apple. Apple's at least chirp and can be detected by the stalkee with a cell
Hard to say on that one. But Google banning iPhones from YouTube, Gmail, and Google Search over not supporting RCS certainly would.
This seems an odd argument, equivalent to arguing that Apple shouldn't use http/https and should makeup their own web protocol. Having all phones use the same standards/protocols is better for everyone. Manufacturers should stand out for how they implement hardware and software features, not by how they hold out against creating user-friendly interoperability.
Yeah that might work if Google wasn't so far up Apple's *** Didn't I just read a short while ago on MR that Google pays Apple 18-20 BILLION/year to keep them as their search engine!>??! You would think Google had more clout than putting up useless green bubble ads, but in this case they are totally in Apple's pocket.
This is both 1) only partly true and 2) not useful. RCS is a protocol. iMessage the protocol is also not end-to-end encrypted, because end-to-end encryption is a client feature implemented only by Apple's proprietary client. RCS the protocol is encrypted in transit, per its specification, but of course that only applies between hops.
What RCS provides is client feature discovery, message metadata, and other over the top features which can be used to build client features such as end-to-end encryption. SMS of course does not.
