At least they fixed the horrible banding issue with the latest update. However now there's a new bug where if you move the widget too many times it not only crashes the widget but the entire OS taking you back to the lock screen.
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iPhone 17 Pro Max GSMArena review is out
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At least they fixed the horrible banding issue with the latest update. However now there's a new bug where if you move the widget too many times it not only crashes the widget but the entire OS taking you back to the lock screen.
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I like it. And I would never let the little changes you mention bother me much even if I didn't like them, but I get it. Everyone is different and sometimes stuff like that matters.
But my ultimate point remains, Apple will almost certain continue to refine the experience somehow, probably with more options if nothing else.
I’m sure they will try to improve things, but for the time being it’s a regression in usability for many, and thus a consideration not to buy a new iPhone right now, and maybe for some time to come.
Don't quite follow the reviewers statement there.
https://www.tomsguide.com/phones/iphones/iphone-17-pro-benchmarks-a19-pro
Switching to an aluminum unibody then calling it better for heating issues is the greatest con job ever. If the price came down then I could stomach it but it didnt.
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I mean... Many of the people I know who purchased the 17 Pro/Max are talking about how frequently and noticeably warm it gets in typical usage. So I'm sure the truth is somewhere in the middle.
Haven't seen any reports on that yet. Not saying that it's not happening, but just haven't read them yet. Still waiting to get my hands on the 17 Pro in a few weeks. I guess I will see then if it is overheating.
LOL. I guess that's what counts as a review these days.
I will give somebody a cookie if they can spot the irony of this little doozy found in the article.
No, just a long rambling about what is now the very fashionable opinion that the new iPhone 17 Pro is easily scratched and thus pure junk. 🙄
The review:
www.phonearena.com
iPhone 17 Pro Max review: hello aluminum, my old friend
The iPhone 17 Pro Max comes with some big upgrades, some curious changes, and a design, which we will be talking about over the next year
www.phonearena.com
Why does it have 1 hour less web surfing time compared to 16 Pro Max? The battery is bigger. Can it have something to do with Apple's new wifi-chip N1?
Yet another review that proves my argument:
1. Camera barely differs from 16 Pro or 15 Pro
2. 4x telephoto takes “basic” images
3. Still lots of processing applied to every shot, lots of HDR artifacts (like objects, buildings, even people having “glow” around them, artificially lifted shadows here and there, noise processing on the level of “Chat GPT, please generate beautiful landscape for me”)
1. Camera barely differs from 16 Pro or 15 Pro
2. 4x telephoto takes “basic” images
3. Still lots of processing applied to every shot, lots of HDR artifacts (like objects, buildings, even people having “glow” around them, artificially lifted shadows here and there, noise processing on the level of “Chat GPT, please generate beautiful landscape for me”)
It’s been 5 years since Apple stopped including a charger. Weird to add it as a con at this point.
It is an anti-consumer practice and I believe EU should step in and demand them to put it there. Imagine if laptop manufacturers do that because all new laptops charge with USB-C.
Apple did this with argumentation that “chargers are unneeded e-waste”. In my life I had never thrown away any charging brick, I have all of them, and all of them find use in my house.
Sure competitors also do that, but I still want them to put at least some sort of charger in the box
The review is all over the place, I would take it with a pinch of salt.
Still listing as a Cons the lack of charger in 2025 its wild!!!!
GSMarena in a nutshell:
iPhone 17 Pro Max - 4.4 stars
Honor Magic V5 - 4.5 stars
😂 alrighty then……
iPhone 17 Pro Max - 4.4 stars
Honor Magic V5 - 4.5 stars
😂 alrighty then……
It’s hilarious, and honestly pathetic, how some people bend over backwards to defend Apple’s blunders, like the company needs their free PR department. Newsflash: Apple isn’t going to thank you for lowering the bar. Every time flaws get brushed off with blind loyalty, the products get worse, innovation stalls, and we’re all left paying more for less. Keep cheerleading mediocrity if you want, but don’t pretend you’re helping Apple grow.
You at least have to give the 'professional' reviewers credit. They have so seamlessly pivoted from the "iPhone 17 Pro is the least substantial upgrade in the iPhone history..." to "Oh my god they changed everything and it's all for not and the iPhone Pro is ruined..."
I mean this was a seamless transition. Nice job.
Every single one of those “cons” is valid, because a con isn’t about what you personally care about, it’s about what the product fails to deliver compared to expectations, competition, or past features. Design is a con if it turns people off, telephoto is a con if users wanted more reach, iOS matters because hardware and software are inseparable, and the charger is a con because Apple created that pain point in the first place, and it is not available everywhere.
The hilarious part is how much hate Apple gets for minor things or things that others do, or things that are simply personal preference. This board has been absolutely wild with toxicity for a month or so now. Apparently it's that way this time every year.
You know what I find hilarious is the people who criticize Apple endlessly no matter what they do. They are quick to write their endless dribble about how Apple has failed the consumer, and then oddly their website is down for the month that Apple does something good.
I have no problem criticizing Apple, but there is almost no balance left. It's all negative all the time. The abuse that Tim Cook gets, on this very site - a Mac fan site no less, tells you all you need to know. According to that crowd Cook has never done a single thing right. Ever. He just constantly fails.
That's pathetic.