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iPhone 17 Pro Max GSMArena review is out
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Unless something has changed in the past few weeks tablets and laptops are not exempt. Only products with an Ip68 rating is exempt. IIRC ipads and macbooks are not IP68.
Again, this entire discussion is pointless.
The European common charger directive also states that phones should be sold without chargers.
Apple and the European Union are literally on the same side when it comes to this one issue.
There’s no more argument to be had, at the end of the day, if Apple didn’t start removing the chargers themselves, the European union would have forced them to.
European Union: it's officially the end of the charger in the smartphone box - GEARRICE
For once the European Union is in agreement with Apple. From tomorrow, any smartphone sold in Europe will no longer have a charger in the box. An “ecological”
www.gearrice.com
At this point if you want Apple to bring back the charger in the box… They literally cannot. Just like they can’t bring back lightning, as much as they might want to.
See Making Batteries Removable and Replaceable: a closer look at the new EU Guidelines - Right to Repair Europe: “for portable batteries covered by the Ecodesign regulation for smartphones and tablets, the latter will prevail over the Batteries Regulation […].”
That makes the whole Batteries Regulation inapplicable for smartphones and tables. The minimum IP rating required by the Ecodesign Regulation is IP44.
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The image quality is better than the previous 5x and the quality jump isn’t as drastic when zooming from 3x to 5x.
Tyler Stalman made a good review about the cameras.
You seem to think that all those chargers for all those years were just thrown into the box for free?
Yea it looks like the lawyers prevailed on that one. Thanks for clearing that up.
Agree. My carrier has a great deal on the standard 17. I won’t get it, solely due to iOS 26.
The M4 iPad Pro is only IP42, by the way, but the next iPad models released (presumably later this year) will supposedly have to be IP44 or better.
“Controversial design” LOL!
Actually, ALL the Cons are a stretch. But, I mean, the point was to drive clicks/links to their site, right? They’ve produced something that people will copy and paste around the world, doing their advertising job for them! It’s the way the internet works, I’m just glad my job doesn’t require… that.
And, coming from Bulgaria, they can thank the EU for no charger being in the box. Why would anyone need a charger in the box, it’s USB-C right?
Love the proof of fanboyism with the OG iPhone sitting on em lmao
Along those lines, I’ve got some more cons…
Not Android compatible.
Was not shown to weaken Kryptonians.
Was not as bulletproof as we expected.
Controversial color.
Is not a delicious cheesecake with a rich, creamy filling with a smooth, velvety texture, balanced by a slightly tangy flavor from cream cheese.
Disagree. Some of the cons they mentioned were already known without them having to go on record. Performance was not improved beyond the gains of last year (vapour chamber for what?), the design is for a fact controversial. Both due to the selection of less premium materials, the looks, and also the softness of the chassis (not for a debate).“Controversial design” LOL!
Actually, ALL the Cons are a stretch. But, I mean, the point was to drive clicks/links to their site, right? They’ve produced something that people will copy and paste around the world, doing their advertising job for them! It’s the way the internet works, I’m just glad my job doesn’t require… that.
And, coming from Bulgaria, they can thank the EU for no charger being in the box. Why would anyone need a charger in the box, it’s USB-C right?
It was ugly when rumored and still ugly now. Doesn't matter if we get used to the design it's still the ugliest iPhone ever made.
the little bump on the back goes all the way across instead of halfway.
is that really enough to upset you?
Despite the cons listed the 17 Pro will still be a significant upgrade from my 14 Plus. I'm probably going to be on the fence between the 17 and the 17 Pro until the day I buy either of them, but do any of the cons make 17 Pro a "bad" phone? I think we're looking at the same thing as last year and the year before that. If you already had a 14 Pro the 15 Pro wasn't a huge upgrade. If you had the 15 Pro the 16 Pro wasn't a huge upgrade. Surprise surprise, if you have the 16 Pro the 17 Pro isn't going to be a huge upgrade.
The blue and silver one is alright, the orange one though. Were they designing it for Caltrans workers? Should have named it safety orange.
It wasn't ideal before but understandable because of the cameras. Making it bigger is far worse. If you like it then thats great.
Yeah I sold a 16 max and got the pro in January.
No point keeping a phone your not happy with.
I could see how some would be bothered by this, but myself personally I have so many chargers and cables at home that it kind of annoys me getting new ones with devices now. For example I unboxed my wife's iPhone Air this weekend and I didn't even unwrap the cable... just left it right in the box and put it away.
But then you’ve overpaid for 1 camera, dodgy speaker and weak battery lol
Who’s been conned?
Not to mention every Macbook Pro display comes with scratches or dents in the screen. Even the service parts.