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GTA IV : ummm its out!

paddy said:
IGN just gave it a 10!! :eek::eek:
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WTF! :eek: Oh, I know why, it's called a PAYOLA!


I don't know what's worse, the hardcore-toddlers giving this game a 10 without having actually played it, or the reviewers giving it frivolous marks based on incentives.

A repetitive game that has flaws, both of which have been pointed out by the reviewers, does not merit a 10. No game does for that matter...

*grumbles*

<]=)
 
10/10...I can't stand those...9.9, give them something to improve.

10/10 means to me, that it is the best game possible. No one thing RockStar can fix, I doubt it
 
Exactly. No game I've ever played is a 10/10. Games have come close, I'd give Pokemon DS a 9.5, FF7 9.7, OoT 9.8. 10/10 means perfection. There are no bugs (not subjective), there is nothing wrong with the gameplay (subjective). It simply cannot be improved.

It probably will be an awe inspiring game though.
 
raggedjimmi said:
Exactly. No game I've ever played is a 10/10. Games have come close, I'd give Pokemon DS a 9.5, FF7 9.7, OoT 9.8. 10/10 means perfection. There are no bugs (not subjective), there is nothing wrong with the gameplay (subjective). It simply cannot be improved.

It probably will be an awe inspiring game though.
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a review site will be subjective by definition..

it's the author's personal perspective on the game
 
You guys should read the closing comments, they don't give it a 10 because it's a perfect game (the subtitle is masterful anyways, not perfect) they give it because it pushes boundaries in a genre and is the best game they have played since Ocarina of Time (which got a 10 and obviously wasn't perfect either).

The reviewing system doesn't work that way, a 10 is a masterful game, not a perfect game, also it's relative to time, a 10 tomorrow is worth more than a 10 today.

As for bribery, it's possible but the game also sounds pretty darn amazing and other websites have given it similar scores, I'm thinking of buying a 360 just for this and then I'll see if the hype was worth it, 10 is amazing, bribery gets you up to a 9.9 but for IGN to give it a 10 (which only Soul Calibur and Ocarina of Time have) means they really do like the game a lot.

Anyways, you guys should call out that they were bribed and the game is repetitive if you HAVEN'T played it, JackAxe, how does that make you different from the hardcore toddlers who give it a 10 without having played it? Have you played GTA IV already? And NO, playing GTA 3, VC , SA, etc does not qualify, they are not the same game.
 
Chone, you misconstrued my post;

"A repetitive game that has flaws, both of which have been pointed out by the reviewers, does not merit a 10."

I only know what I've read and what I've watched so far.

<]=)
 
Fair enough but same said developers also point out that the game is not perfect and that their 10 score does not reflect that. I read the entire review and it doesn't really seems like they were bribed and even if they were, they did not need to go all the way and give the game a 10 so either way the game is sure to be pretty awesome (not perfect and no one said it would be) but definitely great. I think it's important to read what IGN puts under the score (masterful, not perfect) and what they say in their closing comments.

I'm just saying, I don't think anyone should be talking about paid-off reviewers and under (or over) stating the quality of the game before they actually get their hands on it, I've enjoyed even the most basic GTAs (like the Stories games for PS2/PSP) so I am 100% sure I will enjoy GTA IV but whether it deserves a 10/10 is still to be seen.
 
((Exclusive early review) + (AAA game) + (HUGE PR BUDGET)) = Payola. :p

It's not the 10, its the 10 across the board that really has me going HMMmMmmmMmmMMmmm about IGN's score, since even GamePro's max score at least reflects that he game has flaws.

<]=)
 
JackAxe said:
WTF! :eek: Oh, I know why, it's called a PAYOLA!


I don't know what's worse, the hardcore-toddlers giving this game a 10 without having actually played it, or the reviewers giving it frivolous marks based on incentives.

A repetitive game that has flaws, both of which have been pointed out by the reviewers, does not merit a 10. No game does for that matter...

*grumbles*

<]=)
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I've complained about IGN in the past in this forum –*when Pro Evo got an outstanding score with a review that was hardly in depth and completely skirted the issue of massive lag really messing up online play –*it turns out there are in-game ads for IGN all over the place!

In this case though, it is a bit different. The game has a meta score of 10 (from 10 reviews), so it isn't only IGN.

Also, 10 doesn't mean it is completely flawless. IGN mention it gives the score for completely pushing boundaries in a way unseen so far.

Edit: Why does a '*' keep appearing after my em rules/hyphens?
 
I think this .2 isn't the only .2 these guys swell on, but probably trying to add it in the other debate not take it away :D

Seriously, who the %^&* cares? It's a great example of the genre. Everyone has said that. Move the %^&* on. :D (there's a smiley so you know I'm not yelling at you)
 
The past week has been absolute torture for me. I didn't really think much of GTA IV until my brothers friend mentioned that he pre-ordered it. I came online and paid more attention to the video clips, etc and I was hooked.

This is going to be the longest day in a loonnnggg time. I am going to pick my pre-order up tomorrow morning, once the mall opens. If I get it tonight, I will be up until 7am, and that's just not a good idea.

I tried bribing one of the guys at EBGames to sell it to me 3 days early. I offered him $160CAD, plus the cost of the game. He quickly denied me, saying the fine is much more than $160. :rolleyes:

Almost 24 hours to go!
 
I'm in the UK— does anyone know if any retailers here are taking instore pre-orders for the XBox 360 Special Edition? If not, will I be able to pick one up tomorrow or will I have to try a midnight launch?
 
GTA IV looks amazing! Graphics, gameplay, durability, replay value, online component, everything feels right.

So... although I don't actually own a 360 nor a PS3, I think I'm going to buy the game anyway to play at a friend's house. I'm gonna try and talk him into splitting the purchase but he's being a cheap a$$ :D Anyway, tomorrow I'll have a GTA IV PS3 copy on my hands!

I haven't played anything since COD4 so give me a break! :eek:

At least when I get my PS3 after the Summer I will already have 2 games, GTA IV and MGS4 :)

Also, I think it's a bit unfair to question the reviewers integrity... People often confuse on what a perfect score means. For instance, when Mario 64 came out it was such a huge breath of creativity that I totally agreed when I read my usual game magazine and it gave it a 100% score! Of course the game wasn't perfect... the perfect score doesn't mean the game is perfect, it just means that it's as good as a game can get, and that it is 100% worth your hard earned money :) Just my 0.2$
 
sikkinixx said:
http://kotaku.com/348426/grand-theft-auto-iv-dated-for-april

GTA IV set to be released on April 29th, although somehow I can still see this getting delayed once more but hopefully it's all a-ok now!
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I am 99.9999999999% certain that it will release on April 29th. You have nothing to worry about. I serioulsy doubt that it would get delayed again (USA). Is there anyone on the board, here, that would want to back me up on this?

That said, I will not be buying GTA 4 until it goes bargain price. I have too many games to catch up on and there is no reason to pay full price now when it will most definitely be cheaper by the time I do have time to play it.
 
Antares said:
I am 99.9999999999% certain that it will release on April 29th. You have nothing to worry about. I serioulsy doubt that it would get delayed again (USA). Is there anyone on the board, here, that would want to back me up on this?

That said, I will not be buying GTA 4 until it goes bargain price. I have too many games to catch up on and there is no reason to pay full price now when it will most definitely be cheaper by the time I do have time to play it.
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There will be millions of pi**ed off people if it doesn't release tonight at midnight, lol. Oh wait.....ummm.....lots of people have been playing the legit, non-leaked game for a few days now. :rolleyes: Oh, and by the time GTA IV goes bargain price, GTA V will be out.
 
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