I think that Lakersfan meant that Apple could charge people $99 for a new AirPods battery case with USB-C to replace their existing case. As opposed to having to buy all new AirPods with case. I don’t think that the EU would care about that.
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Gurman: Apple to Release USB-C AirPods Pro Case, Likely Alongside iPhone 15 Launch
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I'm no expert, but I do remember reading that wireless charging was a little bit harder on the battery than using the wired approach.
For starters, you are intermixing ”standards” and ”standardization”. And to your color logic, not even sure how to start on that odd logic path, suffice it to say, there is even standardization there. Just check out Belkin’s, or Logitech’s marketing for products in “Space Gray” to go with Apple products - there actually is a standard, and their products are a perfect match. And Samsung has “Cosmic Gray” for example (and not “Space”)
The lighting cable is a, and also has a, “standard”, including data rates, power supply and MiFI to be to meet the full ”standard”. It also provides (or provided) standardization across the Apple portable electronics product line (at one time). Even though it is proprietary, as was the Tesla Charger for a full decade, it is a recognized standard, with fixed requirements to be met by licensed manufacturers. Yes, if the world becomes “standardized” on charging/data cables for mobile devices, then they would all have to use the same “standard”. And that is the direction we are clearly moving. The failure of something to become a “global” standard, or non-proprietary, such as Toshiba’s HD DVD (losing to Bluray) and Sony’s Betamax (losing to VHS), does not disqualify it as a standard. Those products also were not standardized to the industry.
Sure they could sell the case separately for people who don't want to replace their airpods.
Yes, I used "standardization" in its actual contextual definition of a process by which a company, organization, or individual proposes a design or method to become a standard. Words have meaning.
You are unwilling to accept that the word "standard" in this context applies to a specific, structured process and instead keep insisting that only its colloquial meaning as a result of market momentum (or in the case of Apple and Lightning, entirely artificial market restrictions) is what makes it a standard. How do I know this? Because you took the bait of my question about space gray.
If we're not going to discuss the same thing or even agree to the language we're going to use, it's probably better we just agree to disagree and have a good 4th. Cheers.
Meh. That didn't stop Apple from dropping the floppy disk, or when they started to sell notebooks without DVD drives, or when they started to sell iPhones without headphone jacks, or when they killed 32bit, or when they moved from PowerPC to Intel, or when they moved from Intel to their own silicon.
Apple never particularly cared about their users being set in their ways when they thought there was a good reason for change.
Maybe MFI licensing was the reason they stuck to Lightning on the iPhone. Maybe they just didn't see any urgency in adopting USB-C when, as many here have pointed out, some earlier USB standards weren't particularly great and also didn't really stick. I certainly preferred Lightning over anything other than USB-C.
More generally, and not aimed at you, I find it peculiar how a forum in which people regularly spend a lot of money to replace perfectly good iPhones with a slightly better version of said iPhone can argue so passionately about waste when it comes to standardising cables.
At this point, Apple isn't even compatible with itself anymore. USB-C is good enough, widespread and Apple already uses it. Additionally, I don't think we're anywhere close to a portless future so let's just rip off the bandaid and have one cable that can charge all of your Apple devices. The fact that it additionally can charge basically any other phone, tablet, headphones, computers and many other consumer electronics devices out there is just icing on the cake.
What waste? Just use your mac book charger, the EU didn't make your current device obsolete. No need to throw it out.
Mark Gurman has been right many times more than he is wrong. That includes throwing out all the obvious predictions.
I don't know what you're saying here.
Actually iPad 4 should have been released later. But that doesn't really contribute anything to the argument.
Putting more work into USB-C doesn't make it come out faster. It's an organization of many parties and quite often Apple collaborates and address concerns of other manufacturers. Adding 2x the people on Apple's side doesn't suddenly make USB-C come out 2x faster. This is a very narrow way of thinking.
Saying XYZ shouldn't come out essentially means telling Apple: "Hey, stop building products for 2 years". That's not how a publicly traded trillion dollar company works.
You didn't even address the other points. Sorry, but you're deliberately ignoring my points and going off tangents and/or putting incoherent points together. This is not how you have a proper discussion. This is not a good use of time so, have a good one. 👋
I don't think you understood my point. We're talking about throwing away lightning cables because they're no longer useful due to the mandate of USB-C ports.
Hoping they also update the Magic Keyboard/trackpad/mouse and MagSafe battery to have USB-C this fall too. Having only one cable for everything will be so nice. Finally.
The lightning cable still works with your current iPhone, your iPhone isn't obsolete now cause future iPhones use a different connector. Your current iPhone case isn't going to work with future iPhones.
Good to know. A permanent price cut to $99 for AirPods should help to increase the sales.
Wow was there this much complaining when Apple went from the 30 PIN to Lighting? “Now I have to get new cables”. There probably was, I don’t remember back then.
Oh, I’m not arguing for keeping Lightning. I am more than ready to switch everything over to USB-C. I consider the e-waste aspect to be mostly a wash no matter which way it goes. People will get cables and people will discard (or recycle) old cables when it suites them. Overall I expect it to average out.
Once the switch happened, the uproar was deafening for a few weeks. Everyone was sure that Apple did it just to be able to sell you new cables (even when they were just using the cable that came with the phones).
Why throw them out? Give them to family or friends or donate them to a cafe, restaurant library if you no longer need them, this saves people going out to buy new ones, reducing ewaste of a cable.
All but one lightning cable are going to my parents who have an XR and 11, rather than them going to buy new cables, if they have any working non frayed cables after a few year then they pass it on too.
You're assuming all these people don't already have a surplus of lightning cables. Believe me, I've tried giving some of my anker cables away already to friends and family. They've all told me they already have too many.
Ohh then thats easy, drop them off at a thrift store. You’ll make someone happy to get a cheap cable and you’re reducing ewaste
That doesn't really solve ewaste anyways. Manufacturers have already planned for a wind down. So if someone buys my cable, that's one less sale Anker gets which will eventually get thrown away if not sold. With the accelerated adoption of USB-C ports, lightning port's death is accelerated and there will be a ton of fully functioning lightning cables that far outlast most lightning devices, much more than had Apple had full control over lightning port.
Now this sounds cool. Record an audiogram and log it to Health. I currently use the Mimi Hearing Test app for that. Would be cool to have this natively built into the AirPods Pro.