Gurman: Low-Cost Vision Pro Model to Drop EyeSight and M-Series Chip

[TheNewLou]

What I read is that the actual res is the right amount so that the "outer world" seems real, without pixelation. Going any number below that res would mean seeing a pixelated environment.

And after BMW introduces a new 7-series, nobody buys the 3-series any more because it’s not as awesome

 

[svish]

Removing EyeSight should definitely bring the cost down. It could also have an older generation M chip

 

[Macalicious2011]

I have the Quest 3. The pass-through is acceptable for moving around the house, but it is hard to read a 4k screen. Virtual monitors are better, almost good, but slightly blurrier and jerkier than the real thing. I struggled to arrange everything to feel as productive as possible with physical monitors. It is cool to have virtual screens floating in your living room. I found myself being careful not to run into them!

What do you mainly use quest 3 for?

 

[Macalicious2011]

Removing EyeSight should definitely bring the cost down. It could also have an older generation M chip

My issue with downgrading from an M to an A chip is future proofing.

It would kill any prospects of the device ever running osx apps natively.

Can't call it a spatial computer if it will require tethering to a macbook.

 

[genovelle]

I love all the negative comments on an Apple Fan site. Happens with everything they have released in the last 15 years or so. In every single case Apple has gotten it right and the haters have been wrong. Then they have nothing to say even when the competition starts copying it.

 

[dk001]

I love all the negative comments on an Apple Fan site. Happens with everything they have released in the last 15 years or so. In every single case Apple has gotten it right and the haters have been wrong. Then they have nothing to say even when the competition starts copying it.

If only that were true.

Fanboys
Realists
Hater

Most here, for or against, appear to fall into the ”Realist” category.

 

[TheNewLou]

My issue with downgrading from an M to an A chip is future proofing.

It would kill any prospects of the device ever running osx apps natively.

The idea that there will be separate macOS & iOS & iPadOS & tvOS apps is going away.

Now when you build an app in Xcode, it's just a checkbox to add a new platform. They are slightly different, but SwiftUI is making much of that difference become invisible to developers.

It's a non-issue

 

[sfkeepay]

Me. But I’m old and figure I may not have time to wait for the lower priced version. Wait times measured in years no longer work for me.

Years don’t work you say? Will you leave me yours?

 

[rymc02]

Whatever you want lmao. Myself I wanna use my Apple Vision to replace everything my iPad does, which is viewing the social media app formerly known as "Twitter," and consuming media content on streaming platforms. The Vision is just a tool, so what that tool is used for, that's up to you.

You're gonna spend $3500 for a twitter scroller? 🤣 💵🔥

 

[Ryan P]

MKBHD must be reading this thread.

 

[sunny5]

https://www.reddit.com/r/VisionPro/comments/178nrpa

Doesn't make sense since Eyesight is only $30 and M2 chip is quite cheap. The main reason why it's so expensive it's because of micro-OLED. Sensors are also expensive as well.

 

[bobcomer]

MKBHD must be reading this thread.

I pick the glasses side once they introduce a little AR with it. I'd buy it in a second.

 

[dk001]

I pick the glasses side once they introduce a little AR with it. I'd buy it in a second.

👍
Anything bigger and I’ll take a pass.

 

[Ctrlos]

That you see them on "business types" tells me all I need to know about their prospects. BlackBerry used to be the go-to phone of "business types," too, and look where they are now.


Debatable. I have yet to hear a compelling use-case for a foldable phone that justifies their high cost, weird dimensions, terrible durability, and that massive crease in the middle of the screen.


Does it? I haven't seen numbers on this, but I'll bet that Apple sells more iPhones in a week than all companies sold foldables last year. Which isn't to say that foldables will never be commercially successful, just that they aren't now and probably won't be unless/until Apple releases a better one.


Like what? The only thing I can think of is an OLED screen. 5G was definitely not "standard" at the time, and Apple probably jumped the gun a bit on introducing it on the 12 Pro at all. ProMotion was introduced on the 13 Pro, but high refresh rate was also not standard on phones at the time and had been a selling point of the iPad Pro for years.


I fail to see how the success of the iPhone can in any way be attributed to things that had been standard on Android. Titanium? Not remotely close to a "standard," even on Android flagships. A 5x telephoto? Arguably common on the absolute highest end of Android phones but far from a standard. USB-C? Absurd.

Sometimes a company doesn’t need a product to be commercially successful; they just need it to make themselves look more forward thinking than the competition. Sony have been the masters of this for decades, releasing niche-but-futuristic products so that in the minds of consumers they are more innovative. In other words owning a Walkman from the company that also builds cute robot dogs makes the buyer feel part of that club. They’re still doing it now with the PSVR2: it doesn’t matter if it ever takes off, only that customers know that the Xbox doesn’t have one.

Foldables may not be the future of phones but they at least look like it to the wider market. Companies are releasing them to give the impression to customers they are forward thinking. For wilder reference this is also the exact same reason the Vision Pro exists too.

 

[Ctrlos]

I work at home, and my wife and my daugther are constantly coming into my office. I like that this feature lets them interact with me without me having to remove the device each time they approach, and I'm hopeful it also removes from them the idea that I am cut off from them. We'll see of course, but I think Apple has this one right, at least in the direction they are going.

The first thing your wife will say is “Take off that ridiculous thing when talking to me“ as will spouses everywhere.

The passthrough eyes is a massively over designed alternative to just taking off the visor which is what everhone will just do anyway.

 

[4nNtt]

I wonder if they plan on an A series chip or doing an R2 chip with the CPU and GPU built in.

 

[4nNtt]

Sometimes a company doesn’t need a product to be commercially successful; they just need it to make themselves look more forward thinking than the competition. Sony have been the masters of this for decades, releasing niche-but-futuristic products so that in the minds of consumers they are more innovative. In other words owning a Walkman from the company that also builds cute robot dogs makes the buyer feel part of that club. They’re still doing it now with the PSVR2: it doesn’t matter if it ever takes off, only that customers know that the Xbox doesn’t have one.

Foldables may not be the future of phones but they at least look like it to the wider market. Companies are releasing them to give the impression to customers they are forward thinking. For wilder reference this is also the exact same reason the Vision Pro exists too.

Apple doesn’t do this. I think they genuinely believe it will be a popular form of computing. Especially as it gets refined over a few years. I think for some, the new input methods using gaze and gestures may be the most compelling feature.

 

[Ctrlos]

Apple doesn’t do this. I think they genuinely believe it will be a popular form of computing. Especially as it gets refined over a few years. I think for some, the new input methods using gaze and gestures may be the most compelling feature.

I also believe that spatial computing will become the next paradigm. But for that to happen we need a set of AR hardware that turns our actual spaces into the interface rather than just an iPad Pro you strap to your face.