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issue ISNT the bezels, the notch is the issue. white notch on a dark mode display will look horrific, black notches makes sense as the dark gui will make the notch look invisible. To add insult as apple is too cheap to put face id(entire point of the notch in the first place was for the face id sensors plus facetime) on the laptops so you potentially will have a ugly white notch which only contains a tiny webcam..
Won't a notch on the laptop just blend seamlessly into the menu bar at the top? Middle of the menu bar is generally pretty dead space anyway. I've got a lot of things that load but the most used stuff is the menus on the left and the notifications on the right. So I think a notch will (A) be something you get used to and (B) be less noticeable if it is white.
 
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Won't a notch on the laptop just blend seamlessly into the menu bar at the top? Middle of the menu bar is generally pretty dead space anyway. I've got a lot of things that load but the most used stuff is the menus on the left and the notifications on the right. So I think a notch will (A) be something you get used to and (B) be less noticeable if it is white.
A white notch will blend into the screen with light wallpapers like the black one does with dark wallpapers. But Apple might put a thicker top bezel instead of a notch on the Air.
 
I think it highly likely that when the redesigned Air / MacBook is released that it will come in an expanded range of colors.
  1. The Air is their best selling laptop.
  2. Apple sells way more laptops than desktops so if they can do colors on the iMac then they can certainly do them for the Air
  3. Apple is very intentional when it comes to design. They have had an array of colors available for the iPhone which they just made available for the iMac. Extending that to laptops seems to fit right in.
  4. They'll still keep silver / space grey around as there's a large market for that but the Air is their flagship consumer laptop. It'll come in colors.
 
I think far too much has been made of TSMC's lackluster process improvements. Apple must release a successor to the M1. Call it M1X or M2, it doesn't matter. They've shown they can make the transition to ASi and that it can hold it's own against AMD / Intel. However, they still have to show they can keep up. They need to show regular performance and efficiency gains with each successive generation. Apple gets a bit of a pass due to supply chain issues and the whole transition to ASi up to now but it's approaching 2 years since M1 was released. They must setup some sort of release cadence and must show performance gains, even if modest.

If they release a redesigned Air / MacBook with an M1, it's a fail. Sure, it'll sell. But it's a major fail. How could it be anything but a fail to release a newly redesigned laptop with a 2 year old chip? It'll come with an M1X or M2 branded chip and it'll show at least 10% better single core performance and greatly improved GPU performance. With the rumored 2 additional GPU cores that's at least 25% better GPU performance right there. I predict modest performance gains but Apple will sell it as "mind blowingly fast" and "still the fastest CPU in the world". :cool:
 
There is zero point to having the M1-Pro in the Air. It will throttle quickly thus wasting all that performance. The M1-Pro needs a fan.
They had Intel Core i7's in 13 inch MacBook Pro's years ago. I also think the redesigned MacBook Air will be a similar design and they could likely offer three models. Just as my M1 2020 MacBook Pro has a fan, they could do the same for this MacBook Air with the M1 Pro. Besides, its not gonna be an M1 Pro that's as powerful as what you would find in the 14 inch, but just something in the middle ground to fill that 1,599 space.
 
If an Apple product is available in white, I ALWAYS buy that version. I've owned 3 white iPods, 3 white iPhones, 1 white MacBook, and 1 white iPad, all with white bezels/fronts, and I'll happily buy another white MacBook! My only concern is the backlit keyboard and low contrast between the keys and the letters printed on them.

Why wouldn't Apple add more color to a product line when their iconic, must-have products have always been white, clear, and/or colorful?
 
People always want ALL the power for NONE of the money. Every damn time and it's really become ridiculous. People drool over benchmarks for no other reason than "just because".

There's a market for the MBA. (and contrary to what people like to believe, it's not first and foremost the price)
And there's a market for the MBP.

Those don't really overlap other than in people's minds and because of a "want" urge.

I guess I will just never understand how people even come up with these completely unreasonable expectations...
One of the few people that get it. The entire MBA line has its own market and it is not intended for the maximum performance.
 
They had Intel Core i7's in 13 inch MacBook Pro's years ago. I also think the redesigned MacBook Air will be a similar design and they could likely offer three models. Just as my M1 2020 MacBook Pro has a fan, they could do the same for this MacBook Air with the M1 Pro. Besides, its not gonna be an M1 Pro that's as powerful as what you would find in the 14 inch, but just something in the middle ground to fill that 1,599 space.
But those were the UL variants and still required fans. Furthermore, the MBP's design allowed more thermal capacity than what an MBA's thermal design does.
 
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There's a market for the MBA. (and contrary to what people like to believe, it's not first and foremost the price)
Honestly, and from experience, I think the price is pretty much a priority for many customers.
First, that it runs macOS. Then the price. And portability. But I think a substantial share of customers would rather get a bigger 15 inch MacBook Air, if it was on offer.
So I think a notch will (A) be something you get used to and (B) be less noticeable if it is white.
White on white is harder to get „right“ and look seamless. Due to the brighter colours. And the fact that there will - inevitably - be a small „gap“ of unlit display between the notch and the white pixels. Computer displays are - more or less - black when and where they’re not lit.

Just look at the pictures (renderings?) of the iMac on Apple‘s website:
There‘s a thin black border around the screen - that would also be between a white notch and the pixels on a white-bezel MacBook Air.
They'll still keep silver / space grey around as there's a large market for that
I wouldn’t be surprised if - as on the iMac - they reverted to black/grey being an „upsell“ to the more expensive Pro models.
If they release a redesigned Air / MacBook with an M1, it's a fail. Sure, it'll sell. But it's a major fail. How could it be anything but a fail to release a newly redesigned laptop with a 2 year old chip?
While MacBook Air did receive performance upgrades in previous generations, it never was a performance-focused product.
 
While MacBook Air did receive performance upgrades in previous generations, it never was a performance-focused product.
The issue is the negative perception that it's just a simple superficial fresh coat of paint over an old product.
 
The issue is the negative perception that it's just a simple superficial fresh coat of paint over an old product.
Certainly beats having nothing to show up before back to school season (or until end of the year) and only having an almost two-year old model for sale, doesn't it?

Here's the thing: What if Apple doesn't have an M2 or other much faster SoC to stuff into a fanless chassis and churn out enough of them?

A redesigned model could still be thinner, lighter, maybe slightly faster - along with new colours.
 
They had Intel Core i7's in 13 inch MacBook Pro's years ago. I also think the redesigned MacBook Air will be a similar design and they could likely offer three models. Just as my M1 2020 MacBook Pro has a fan, they could do the same for this MacBook Air with the M1 Pro. Besides, its not gonna be an M1 Pro that's as powerful as what you would find in the 14 inch, but just something in the middle ground to fill that 1,599 space.
And you never got the full performance out of those computers because as soon as you did anything that required the CPUs performance it throttled with the fans roaring. Might as well have had a less powerful and cooler running chip. Even the final Intel 16" didn't give you the full turbo-boost speeds due to throttling.

The M1-Pro needs a fan, otherwise you're just getting M1 performance out of it.

The MacBook Air with 16GB/512GB is the middle ground at 1499. Add 200 for the M1-Pro upgrade and you're past the middle ground and pushing up against the much nicer 14" MBP.
 
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Certainly beats having nothing to show up before back to school season (or until end of the year) and only having an almost two-year old model for sale, doesn't it?
Good point. People want to buy new and better stuff, but if it's the same two-year old product on the inside, you're going to make people pause and go "I'm spending money on two-year old stuff".

It's fine even if it's the 8/10 M1 Pro chip. That thing's not yet a year old. It just cannot be the almost two-year old 8/7 or 8/8 M1 chip inside.
 
I was going to post the very same thing.

I also was ready to charge him with hypocrisy, especially for stating this.

“The much-reported idea of the new MacBook Air coming in a range of “several colors” is probably exaggerated.”​

I thought, “What nonsense! What chutzpah!” His statement applies to his own sweeping predictions.

Then, I paused and realized that with all rumor-mongers around, I should check and see just what Gurman reported. Couldn't find him predicting a gamut of colors mirroring the iMac's or his displaying colorful renders.

That was Jon Prosser! See, e.g.,


Do you have a source where Gurman states the MBA is coming in colors? If so, it's pretty funny for him to now say such a notion is “probably exaggerated”. However, it seems he might not have said that!

In any event, count me among those disappointed if it's a bland palette rather than a greatly *expanded* one, with many choices mirroring the iMac's.

However, it's the loss of the wedge shape that would be the biggest disappointment to me — it's so much more comfortable to type with a sloping palm rest than the harsh right-angle edge — unless you have Munchkin hands!

Someone here is reasonable.

Thanks, Mark!
 
A white notch will blend into the screen with light wallpapers like the black one does with dark wallpapers. But Apple might put a thicker top bezel instead of a notch on the Air.

I think either is fine. Though yeah, I think a thicker top bezel is more seamless. I actually use a desk top for my Mac these days anyway. And I've got a web cam that sits on top of my monitor and the foot of it hangs down just a touch onto the screen. It basically creates a notch (basically a half-sized notch). And I totally forget that a notch is there. So if I were to buy a MacBook that has a notch, I'm confident I would get used to it and not care within a couple of days.

Also, my normal work day is in "light mode" so my my menu bar is "white" during the normal work day. And while I have a lot of things that load onto my menu bar, I still have a couple of inches of open space up there. So the notch would not actually obscure any screen space that I actually use.
 
White on white is harder to get „right“ and look seamless. Due to the brighter colours. And the fact that there will - inevitably - be a small „gap“ of unlit display between the notch and the white pixels. Computer displays are - more or less - black when and where they’re not lit.

Just look at the pictures (renderings?) of the iMac on Apple‘s website:
There‘s a thin black border around the screen - that would also be between a white notch and the pixels on a white-bezel MacBook Air.
That is a good point. But still does that outweigh that the menu bar in typical light mode is a white strip? I'm not sure that it does.
 
Colors can be added later but screen size can not be increased later without major upgrade.
 
as much as i don't like off white bezels, it's gonna sale, especially if it got mag safe.
I keep seeing this and I have to ask, do people *really* care that much about magsafe? The magsafe cable that came with my 16” MBP sits in a drawer… somewhere….
 

This is Ming-Chi's latest tweet. Does this mean we'll see a new Air tomorrow?
I would be very interested in a blue that
matches the iMac blue. There should be a pink or purple though as well. I can see Apple forgoing the yellow and orange colors, but blue or green, pink or purple would make sense from a marketing stand point along with midnight/space Grey and starlight/silver. I’m excited to see what Apple does with the MBA.

EDIT: I guess I shouldn’t forget a champagne gold, which might be nice.
 
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