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Gurman: New 13-Inch and 15-Inch MacBook Airs Likely to Launch by Summer

TSE said:
I've made approximately $120k on my M2 MacBook Air.

That's money that I would have lost out on if I waited for an M3.

Don't wait. If you need a device, just buy.
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damn, what do you do for a living? am I getting trolled here? (hard to tell with the JR profpic šŸ˜‚) if not, youā€™re killing it dude
 
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257Loner said:
Not a chance, Mark Gurman! If a 15-inch MacBook Air comes out at all, it will have the same M2 as last year's 13-inch MacBook Air. An M3 this year is just wishful thinking on his part.
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the only thing supporting the idea that itā€™ll have M3 is the fact that the Air has consistently been the first computer with the next-gen chip, going ā€œall the wayā€ back to M1. that and the obvious fact that Apple wants to update these on a yearly basis, even with supply chain constrictions holding them back. the vision for M-series has clearly always been the same as the one for A-series, as they aspire to make the Mac more popular than ever.

but to your credit, I swear to God, this is literally all speculation on his part. Iā€™m sick of hearing about it.
 
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diddl14 said:
Maybe Apple Silicon goes tik-tok like Intel.
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maybe?
It already hasā€¦ For years.
At least since the A7, with a couple exceptions, Apple has gone back-and-forth between a tick (process shrink) and a tock (same process, just improved).
A12 was a tick, first 7NM processor.
A13: Tock, improved 7NM processor.
A14: first 5NM processor.
A15: improved 5NM processor.
Obviously the pandemic has shook things up a bit, but the A17 and M3 both look to be a massive tick, with not only a new 3 nm process, but also major graphics improvements.
Meanwhile the A18 and M4 will more than likely just be improvements on the same process.
 
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MacRumors said:
Gurman did not reveal if the 15-inch MacBook Air will also be equipped with the M3 chip. He said a 15-inch model with an M2 chip "may still excite consumers," but would "quickly become outdated" given the M3 chip is on the horizon.
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Just the other day we were considering the M3 shows up in 2024. Again you have year old M1 Ultra Mac Studio for sale, more recent M2 Pro/Max introduced Jan 2023, and now this spin about M3 base by WWDC 2023. Making new 3nm architecture SoCā€™s is not easy.
 
just moe "news" from Gurman indicating that he has no clue what is really going on, just throwing things at the wall, something might stick ...
M3 went into production late last year, the first set of completed chips are ready for assembly - which product do they go into? not a 24 iMac, a anew product - 15 MBA, pretty sure we'll see the announced in the next few weeks ...
 
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Chazak said:
While I understand what your are saying and do not disagree with some it, I find a portion of your explanation unsuportable. Pricing of materials and commodities used in the manufacture of these products is locked in and hedged long before they reach the market as is Apple's cost.

Not everyone and almost all the non-professional consumers buying these product are not approaching their purchase from the line of rational thought you are using.

I would be interested to know if you have any direct experience in this other than as a developer, engineer, power user, etc. or just consider yourself to be quite knowledgeable about the topic.
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I'm just an enthusiast who 'drank the Kool-Aid' in 1994 and I follow this site as a weird hobby. If I were a gamer, I'm sure I'd be elsewhere...but I just find the Apple story (and their products) to be fascinating.

That said, I would expect neon to be under force majeure very soon given that 50-90% (depending on what source you read) of the world's supply for semi-conductor grade neon came from Ukraine and it has been off-line for a while (and perhaps permanently). The vast majority of the remainder comes from China, which gives China exactly what it wants...power over Taiwan. Apple may have a little pull here (presumably much more than Intel given the Foxconn investments), but long term, someone needs to build the infrastructure outside Ukraine/Russia for a host of materials...and fast.

Force majeure would negate any long-term supply contracts. I do have a little experience in geo-political supply chain as my company imports baltic birch plywood from Russia...what a colossal ****-show...as well as various petrochemicals worldwide (another milder ****-show). The 2020s have been completely different than the last 40 years...and there's no sign of it returning back to "normal".

Also, I'm basing some of my assumptions over the rumored price increases for the 3nm process. One one hand, you get more chips on every wafer...but on the other hand, these processes are getting really sophisticated and really expensive. I would not be surprised if the M1/M2 remains the price/performance sweet spot for a while.

And again, the M1 simply rocks. Despite buying a maxed out M2 Macbook Pro, my kids would never be able to tell the difference between my $6500 laptop and their $900 MacBook Airs (aside from screen size, obviously).
 
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The 15ā€ Air launching in the Spring/Summer makes a ton of sense. Pop in an M2 or maybe even an M2 Pro and a lot of people would be more than happy. Where this rumor gets weird is the 13ā€ partā€¦

The 13ā€ is currently not even a year old and it already has the M2. Are we really expecting the M3 to be ready by Summer? If it is, it makes zero sense to put an M3 in the 13ā€ and leave the 15ā€ with an M2ā€¦

Seems much more likely that we get the 15ā€ Air with an M2 this spring along with the Mac Pro and a new iPhone color. Then in the fall, Apple debuts the M3 with an updated 13ā€ Air and an updated iMac.

Edit: Just read another article that was a lot more clear. The rumor is the M3 launch will be at WWDC and the chip will debut in both the 13ā€ air and 15ā€ air. Although this does leave the question of if Apple will also use the M3 for their VR headset rather than the M2ā€¦ Should be an interesting summer!
 
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ThisBougieLife said:
The 15" Air would be a Day One buy for me, regardless of the chip...if it had mini LED.

The MacBook Pro I have is definitely overkill for me. I don't need all this processing power or RAM. And I'd love to have a lighter-weight laptop that does everything I'd need it to do. Unfortunately, I've been using this incredibly beautiful mini LED display for over a year now and there's no way I could go back to a standard LCD. šŸ™ I feel the same about the 14 Plus. I don't need the enormous camera bump and I'd love to get a thinner, lighter phone. But I can't go back to 60 Hz. If they ever bring more advanced displays to their "entry-level" products I'll consider switching. For now, it has to be "Pro" for me.
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I agree 100% with this. I could have written your text. Stupid you have to stick to the pro versions of everything just for the better screen.
 
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TSE said:
UX Design. Secured a couple big contracts and negotiated for more. Survived layoffs.
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be honest do you need the m2 to do your work? most UX design work these days seems to be done in figma and your computer doesn't make a huge difference

buy the best computer for sure, congrats on the success
 
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TIMO_737 said:
I agree 100% with this. I could have written your text. Stupid you have to stick to the pro versions of everything just for the better screen.
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Cost, 500 nit LCD LED back lit displays are cheaper/power efficient then mini-LED. OLED eventually maybe for MBA.
 
I just hope it comes out before I go on vacation at the end of April. I don't want to carry my heavy 2019 16" MacBook Pro with me in my backpack lol
 
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dturner123 said:
I just hope it comes out before I go on vacation at the end of April. I don't want to carry my heavy 2019 16" MacBook Pro with me in my backpack lol
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One of the questions yet to be answered is weight in all these MBA rumors.

M2 SDR 13.6" screen MBA is 2.7 pounds (1.24 kg)
M2 HDR 14.2" screen MBP is 3.5 pounds (1.60 kg) M2 Pro; 3.6 pounds (1.63 kg) M2 Max
M2 HDR 16.2" screen MBP is 4.7 pounds (2.15 kg) M2 Pro; 4.8 pounds (2.16 kg) M2 Max

Larger SDR 15.5" screen MBA requires a larger battery, also chassis is heavier, if it M2 Pro that will add weight too. The larger 15" MBA might not be as easy to use will transportation (airplane, rail, bus) or fit into a backpack. Just things to consider comparing to your 4.3 pounds (2.0 kg) 2019 16" model.
 
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I've been waiting for this Macbook air 15-inch for so long, looks like it was worth waiting!! heard rumors that Apple will put back its logo blinker again on the upcoming Macbook air 15-inch!
 
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I'm thinking Apple is announcing M3 chips (in some variant) at WWDC. If the 15" Air hasn't launched by then, It's probably a safe bet that Apple will announce that and a revision of the 13" at that point.

I hope so! We'll see soon enough... Excited to see how much better M3 can be. Hopefully also in a 12" form factor.
 
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Realityck said:
1000 nit sustained XDR MiniLED displays use much more battery capacity, specially the larger the display is. Thats is going away from Air lightness to a 14"/16" MBP. Perhaps eventually you'll see a OLED display used. šŸ˜‰
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Ultimately I think they will transition away from LCD on all their displays, but it might take the adoption of Micro LED for that to happen.
 
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