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Gurman: New iPhone SE Coming 'This Week'

Reason077 said:
Wow, really? The older population I know, including my parents, can navigate their buttonless phones just fine. But you can use the Assistive Touch option to add a virtual home button if you really do need that.
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I’ve never heard of the Assistive Touch button. I wish Apple would highlight these really useful hidden features.
 
AstroKeith said:
I've had every SE - the whole point for me was the small size. I don't want a large screen - I have iPads and Mac's for that.
What do I do now?
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The new SE is 0.3” taller than the current SE and 0.2” wider. It’s not ‘large’ in any way and is by no means a catastrophe. I never understood why people choose to make a mountain out of a molehill when it comes to such inconsequential changes.
 
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aw1998 said:
The new SE is 0.3” taller than the current SE and 0.2” wider. It’s not ‘large’ in any way and is by no means a catastrophe. I never understood why people choose to make a mountain out of a molehill when it comes to such inconsequential changes.
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welcome to MR.. the home of mountains and mole hills ;)
 
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Expecting it this week. Think it will get a price hike. Maybe a maximum of $499. But expecting it to start with 128GB storage. Hopefully there will be some new colour choice.
 
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ApplesAreSweet&Sour said:
Will it be very meh with A18 and 6/128 but priced at $429 and no Apple Intelligence?

Or will it be a smash with A18 and 8/128 priced at >$429 with Apple Intelligence?

I have no idea what Apple will do with its remaining iPhone 15 stock if SE 4 is indeed the 8/128 that I'm hoping it is.

Maybe iPhone 15 sales have already slowed so much that SE 4 will only be a tiny nail in a coffin that was already nearly shut?

Should make for a very odd Q1-Q2 line-up if iPhones 15 and SE 4 are sold next to one another. I guess it all comes down to price.

Very excited for this SE 4 launch.
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It will have Apple Intelligence and 8 gb of RAM. Who knows about storage.
 
FlyingDutch said:
A 16 has a better display, MagSafe connector (most probably missing from the SE) and a better camera setup.
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Yeah that's what I'm afraid of if that's about all you get for $400 extra ...

But I guess I'm assuming SE will only be $400. That is probably wrong now that I think about it. (goes back and skims article for pricing and sure enough they hint at a price increase.)

Still saving $300 (assuming $500 price point) ...doesn't sound worth it for those 3 things.

Display quality has been more than good enough for a long time now on iPhones. I wouldn't pay more for a slight improvement in display. MagSafe largely not used in our household. Kid has a magnetic phone charger but ...not worth $300.

Camera setup. Depends on where the cheap camera setup is at. Daylight photos haven't improved in iPhones in the past 5-8 years to my eyes and for my needs. Low light performance has been where it's at for getting a better iPhone camera. If SE is now matching that... or has improved greatly there ....then that would be good enough for me. I don't use/care about telephoto/portrait/etc features.
 
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FlyingDutch said:
Nope. Apple isn’t putting sensors in an hole punch. They are in a pills shape, which is significantly bigger than a hole punch.
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But basically a hole punch in the grand scheme of things. A hole surrounded by screen. Can’t imagine there’s a significant difference in price between that and a notch at this point in time, considering hole punches are the standard now.

Another commenter said they’re basically just using the tooling etc. they already have in place for the iPhone 14. They’re probably right. Still, when looking at the industry at large, Apple pretty much stands alone. Their infamous penny pinching is on full display.
 
trip1ex said:
Yeah that's what I'm afraid of if that's about all you get for $400 extra ...

But I guess I'm assuming SE will only be $400. That is probably wrong now that I think about it. (goes back and skims article for pricing and sure enough they hint at a price increase.)

Still saving $300 (assuming $500 price point) ...doesn't sound worth it for those 3 things.
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I wouldn’t bet on the next price …

trip1ex said:
Display quality has been more than good enough for a long time now on iPhones. I wouldn't pay more for a slight improvement in display. MagSafe largely not used in our household. Kid has a magnetic phone charger but ...not worth $300.
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Well, everyone has different needs and different perspectives: iPhone 14 display has been good, but iPhone 16 is objectively better. MagSafe is very useful for some, irrelevant for others, and so on.
trip1ex said:
Camera setup. Depends on where the cheap camera setup is at. Daylight photos haven't improved in iPhones in the past 5-8 years to my eyes and for my needs. Low light performance has been where it's at for getting a better iPhone camera. If SE is now matching that... or has improved greatly there ....then that would be good enough for me. I don't use/care about telephoto/portrait/etc features.
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We don’t know which main sensor they are going to use. It could be the 48 Mpixel they are using since the iPhone 15 OR the old 12 Mpixel used on the 14. Was it bad ? Nope, but not even great by today’s standards.
Considering what you are saying you are not using above, you are pretty much a “basic iPhone user”, so indeed you could be satisfied by the new SE.
v0lume4 said:
Fingerprint scanners…?
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Not even remotely comparable to FaceID. And I’m very very very very happy Apple is using something different.
v0lume4 said:
But basically a hole punch in the grand scheme of things. A hole surrounded by screen. Can’t imagine there’s a significant difference in price between that and a notch at this point in time, considering hole punches are the standard now.
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It is not an hole. It is much bigger than a hole punch. It has several sensors inside. How much more it costs to manufacture I don’t know, but for sure it doesn’t come any cheaper.
v0lume4 said:
Another commenter said they’re basically just using the tooling etc. they already have in place for the iPhone 14. They’re probably right. Still, when looking at the industry at large, Apple pretty much stands alone. Their infamous penny pinching is on full display.
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Most probably Apple is going to use the same production line already in place for iPhone 14 (still sold in several countries including US), so it has some advantages for them.
As for the “Apple stands alone”… Apple doesn’t care. They want to stand alone. For the better or the worse, it is not Apple to follow Android manufactures, but the opposite.
 
v0lume4 said:
But basically a hole punch in the grand scheme of things. A hole surrounded by screen. Can’t imagine there’s a significant difference in price between that and a notch at this point in time, considering hole punches are the standard now.

Another commenter said they’re basically just using the tooling etc. they already have in place for the iPhone 14. They’re probably right. Still, when looking at the industry at large, Apple pretty much stands alone. Their infamous penny pinching is on full display.
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perhaps research what other tech. Apple employs in the notch/pill before comparing to Android phones... :)
 
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