OP, I know what you mean, and that is how it is. Do not reinstall macOS. If you are used to Windows, you need some third party software such as USB Overdrive, CursorSense, to be able to use a mouse on macOS. Most people here are used to macOS; they don't know how it works on Windows/Linux.
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Guys why is the mouse control so so bad?
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It's funny how my experience is exactly the opposite - I've always found the Mac mouse to 'feel' vastly superior to Windows, especially during the early days. Perhaps it was a matter of being more used to it - I dunno.
Outside of gaming, I use a trackpad 100% of the time. Even when plugged in clamshell mode. The gesutres and movement are so much more natural.
which of these software do u recommend?
after 6 months of use with mx master 3 for mac ,I decided to buy the logi dongle instead of relying on ****** BT and oh G-od does it feel better !
still I think it could be even better than that
I daily use Macs and Windows machines, with various mice and trackpads. I really have no idea what you mean. Everything is precise and behaves like it should…
This will be something really hard to answer, because it's very subjective and different for each person. It's quite possible for you to experience this while others don't know what you're talking about (just like some people notice the difference between input lag in gaming, and others don't).
Now, it could be an issue with your Mac, it could also be a perception issue (for example, does the PC have the same screen size as your Mac - as I have noticed how screen sizes affect my perception of mice movement) - and, of course, it could be that there actually is a difference and that you're noticing it. This is the first time I've heard anyone complain about this - so I guess it's an issue with your Mac, or it's something people get used to. If it's not a hardware/software issue - perhaps you'll just get used to it?
OP:
You're using a Logitech mouse, is this correct?
If so...
I strongly suggest that you try either (or BOTH) of these:
- SteerMouse
- USB Overdrive
Both are "shareware".
I currently use SteerMouse, and it's a great "mouse driver".
It lets me program the extra buttons on the Logitech mouse to do whatever I need.
Give these a try. Both have free trials.
If you don't like, they're easily un-installed.
You're using a Logitech mouse, is this correct?
If so...
I strongly suggest that you try either (or BOTH) of these:
- SteerMouse
- USB Overdrive
Both are "shareware".
I currently use SteerMouse, and it's a great "mouse driver".
It lets me program the extra buttons on the Logitech mouse to do whatever I need.
Give these a try. Both have free trials.
If you don't like, they're easily un-installed.
I use both Windows and Mac. Last night I was on my Windows machine and looked closely; I even put my glasses on. That machine has a wired mouse.
I really can't tell the difference between my wired mouse on Windows and my wireless one on my Mac. I'm using external monitors of comparable size on both machines.
I really can't tell the difference between my wired mouse on Windows and my wireless one on my Mac. I'm using external monitors of comparable size on both machines.
Why not just use G Hub if using Logitech? It seems like a more targeted solution.
It's free software from Logitech specially designed to use with Logitech gear. And, more importantly, it's free. Try it out to see if it works best for you. I never heard of Steermouse but it's good to know it exists.
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I should have added some hardware details. On Windows I use the G600 and run G HUB (DPI is set to 1600 and report rate 1000). On Mac I use the MX Master 3 and run Logi Options (I don't see any relevant adjustments).
Some of these comments lol. It’s because macOS has softlocked mouse acceleration that is really aggressive. If you are a pc gamer you are probably used to raw input. On mac notice how the speed you move the mouse affects the distance. Try moving 2 inches on your mouse pad quickly, then do it again slowly and notice that the cursor travel won’t be the same despite the distance on the mouse pad being the same. As others have said, I recommend using a tool like cursorsense to actually turn this behavior off. macOS doesn’t let you toggle this, and I have tried the recommended terminal commands but it never seems to work right.
Are you suggesting that the OP set the tracking speed to very slow to compensate for high acceleration? The OP did say that they disabled acceleration and still noticed the same effect.
No I’m not saying that at all, not sure how you got that. Mouse acceleration is independent from what tracking speed does. I’m simply explaining the affect acceleration has. And many tools/ commands that claim to disable mouse acceleration on mac don’t actually work in my experience. You can test by doing what I described to see if acceleration is still present.
On top of the explained acceleration behaviour, Monterey adds an additional delay between input and actual movement (at least in some cases as mine). In my opinion definitely a bug. Delay rises from ~45ms in Big Sur to ~75ms in Monterey 12.2.
I posted a video here: https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...cceleration-on-monterey.2330691/post-30816297
I posted a video here: https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...cceleration-on-monterey.2330691/post-30816297
I got that by trying to guess why you think high acceleration would make the mouse feel like it's on ice.
I recommend tools to disable acceleration and never once said anything about changing tracking speed. If you aren’t aware those are two different things. Acceleration is on by default and cannot be toggled off like you can in windows. With acceleration quick movements lead to further travel than slower movements regardless of physical mouse travel distance. Giving it an inconsistent feel that might make you under/over shoot with the cursor if you are used to 1:1 raw input or even less aggressive acceleration. It took me ages to get it to feel right on mac. Op said it happens wired and wireless, so it’s not just latency.
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The OP said, when tracing a figure eight, "you can just feel the lag/delay in it as if it's sort of on ice." You feel that's due to the inconsistency caused by acceleration and the tendency to "under/over shoot". I'd imagine tracing a figure eight would be done at a near constant speed so that acceleration wouldn't be much of a factor in the experience.
The lag issue shown in the video posted @arw seems more like what I imagined the OP was experiencing.
I don’t think you could assume that would be done at a consistent speed. It’s very easy to replicate what OP describes with Mac’s mouse acceleration and seems like an obvious troubleshooting point, as evidenced by others pointing to the same thing It’s just a suggestion, no need to make it a debate.
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Ive used the Logitech MX3 on my iMac 27" for about 6 months now and it has repeatedly had curser or button problems. l tried every solution I could find,, Bluetooth, dongle plugged into USB port on back of monitor, but they wouldn't work or didn't last long. FINALLY found a solution for me. Apparently, with the unifying receiver plugged into the back of my Mac, it was receiving interference with other electronics inside the Mac. I removed the receiver from the Mac and attached it to the end of an extension. This moved it just far enough away from the USB port so I no longer had the interference anymore . Problem solved for me.
This is exactly right. Cursorsense gives you access to raw mouse input, which MacOS otherwise does not allow you to do. I can understand how people that are used to MacOS might not notice this, but it's absolutely, indisputably the case. I honestly would not use MacOS if cursorsense did not exist. Mouse acceleration basically destroys precision and repeatability, and it is infuriating that MacOS does not actually let you disable it without a third party application.
johnnymoe wrote:
"I removed the receiver from the Mac and attached it to the end of an extension. This moved it just far enough away from the USB port so I no longer had the interference anymore . Problem solved for me."
Exactly the solution I've been posting to this forum for a few years now.
It just... works.
"I removed the receiver from the Mac and attached it to the end of an extension. This moved it just far enough away from the USB port so I no longer had the interference anymore . Problem solved for me."
Exactly the solution I've been posting to this forum for a few years now.
It just... works.