Gyroscope Likely to Come in Future iPad

[Stately]

Pretty good move by Apple. Tease the masses with half-ass filled products like the 1st Generation iPad. Then, release something stuffed to the holes with new tech such as the iPhone 4.

Then release the iPad again with stuff it should have had considering what it was aimed to do: 512MB RAM, a front facing camera, and a gyroscope since they're aiming for gaming platforms, then make everyone buy it again.

Pretty much the same scheme they did with the iPhone 2G and iPhone 3G.

Bravo Apple, bravo.

And you don't think that proper planning has anything to do with the release of a good product? What if we don't yet know the end goal of ipad? What if we don't even know the end goal of the iphone? To say that things are being held back purposely, only in order to get people to keep buying Apples stuff is not good enough. Things also take a lot of testing. For all we know, 5 years from now, the iphone could turn into a jet that we can ride in and put back into our pockets when the destination is reached.

 

[gtsipad]

For all we know, 5 years from now, the iphone could turn into a jet that we can ride in and put back into our pockets when the destination is reached.

now that sounds sweet!!! prob is humans have enough difficulty driving in two dimensions...I cant imagine how bad drivers will be in three dimensions

 

[Stately]

I have a question: would the current apps out there using accelerometer will be negatively affected if gyrometer is used in iPod or iPhone or iPad? In other words, will they still work the same with new version of gyrometer?

I'm not a programer or anything, but I think it's safe to say that, when the apps were written they wrote code into the app to make it respond to the accelerometer. In essence they should respond to only that, whether the gyroscope is present or not. It shouldn't respond to it unless there is code written for it, I presume. Some companies that have apps that were only written for the accelerometer, now have the ability to boost their apps performance if they want. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[Brien]

I'm pissed that the iPhone 4 makes the iPad look old. I'll be even more pissed when the next iPad makes the iPhone 4 look old. I'll be really, REALLY pissed when the iPhone 5 makes the next iPad look old. I'm going to be pissing a whooooooole lot.

Me too! DOWN WITH APPLE!

 

[TPALTony]

Common themez

It never ceases to surprise me how upset we get that what we bought yesterday doesn't have the same features as what we buy to tomorrow.... A few musings on this theme (not intended to slight or support anyone elses' opinion)...

1. Computers have been like this forever. In fact apple is "better" than most in that when you buy the latest apple laptop it's an average of ~9 months bevore it'll be "obsolete" (whereas most PC manufacturers bump spec in one watt or another every few months making the average there about 1.5 months assuming you don't specifically buy the very day a new model comes out.)

2. Phone manufacturers one up themselves every few months too. They change the model number and/or name in the hope we don't notice and their products aren't launched with as much fanfare as apple but again, once a year for iPhones is a much slower churn rate than most.

3. For every person who dislikes the fact they are one upped there's another who dislikes the pace for being too slow (how many threads are there on "when's the new MBP coming out?"?)

4. Apple would argue the iPhone and iPad are related but different. So they would argue that being unhappy the iPhone makes your iPad looks old and its missing features is like being unhappy that your brand new BMW 3 series was must eclipsed by the new model BMW 5 series and it should have the same features.

5. Put all that lot together and what do you do? If you're apple I mean. It's rather simple actually. You time things to get the most publicity and the most brand loyalty and the most money. Its no surprise hat the 3GS was a minor bump and the iPhone 4 is a major one when you consider how many iPhone 3G customers were on 2 year contracts...

Oh and then you sit in the corner and wish you'd neverpout that bloody slide about the band being part of the antenna in your keynote address.

T

 

[TPALTony]

Musings...

It never ceases to surprise me how upset we get that what we bought yesterday doesn't have the same features as what we buy tomorrow.... A few musings on this theme (not intended to slight or support anyone elses' opinion)...

1. Computers have been like this forever. In fact apple is "better" than most in that when you buy the latest apple laptop it's an average of ~9 months before it'll be "obsolete" (whereas most PC manufacturers bump spec in one way or another every few months making the average there about 1.5 months assuming you don't specifically buy the very day a new model comes out.)

2. Phone manufacturers one up themselves every few months too. They change the model number and/or name in the hope we don't notice and their products aren't launched with as much fanfare as apple but again, once a year for iPhones is a much slower churn rate than most.

3. For every person who dislikes the fact they are one upped there's another who dislikes the pace for being too slow (how many threads are there on "when's the new MBP coming out?"?)

4. Apple would argue the iPhone and iPad are related but different. So they would argue that being unhappy the iPhone makes your iPad looks old and its missing features is like being unhappy that your brand new BMW 3 series was just eclipsed by the new model BMW 5 series and it should have the same features even though the design and manufacture of the 3 and 5 series are related, but very different timing.

5. Put all that lot together and what do you do? If you're apple I mean. It's rather simple actually. You time things to get the most publicity and the most brand loyalty and the most money. Its no surprise hat the 3GS was a minor bump and the iPhone 4 is a major one when you consider how many iPhone 3G customers were on 2 year contracts...

Oh and then you sit in the corner and wish you'd never put that bloody slide about the band being part of the antenna in your keynote address.

T

 

[WLS]

We MOST certainly HAVE NOT found out that they "could have put" these components in the iPad...all we've "found out" is that they're in the iPhone 4...

OMG...some of you people are just clueless

did you not read the article?
"UBM TechInisghts recently performed a teardown of the iPhone 4 and discovered that Apple may have originally planned on including a gyroscope in the iPad first. After examining the iPhone 4 motherboard, they found that the iPad also had an empty slot that accommodate a gyroscope chip (see above).

 

[gtsipad]

did you not read the article?
"UBM TechInisghts recently performed a teardown of the iPhone 4 and discovered that Apple may have originally planned on including a gyroscope in the iPad first. After examining the iPhone 4 motherboard, they found that the iPad also had an empty slot that accommodate a gyroscope chip (see above).

"may have"..."could have"...these are nothing but assumptions...we know not what Apple planned or has planned. thats my point. To take that and then try and assign intent that Apple purposely held back features or components just to stiff us early adopters is just ridiculous and juvenile.

 

[andyplace]

Here's a post in the iPhone App discussion forum about apps using the gyroscope -- including one of mine.

https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=10399018&posted=1#post10399018

 

[gtsipad]

For those of you dying to try out the compass, I've submitted an app dedicated to the gyroscope to App Store. It's called Gyroscope Demonstration. It will show you the raw values (for you programmers out there) + simple visualizations. It also has an RPM counter and a gyroscope based compass.

looks good...now i just need to get an iPhone 4

 

[alakazzam]

And this is why we never buy first generation apple products

 

[za9ra22]

did you not read the article?
"UBM TechInisghts recently performed a teardown of the iPhone 4 and discovered that Apple may have originally planned on including a gyroscope in the iPad first. After examining the iPhone 4 motherboard, they found that the iPad also had an empty slot that accommodate a gyroscope chip (see above).

Even if the assumptions being drawn are correct, it is hardly anything new, nor is it even relevant because Apple doesn't owe you anything. It builds whatever product it wishes to, no more and no less. Your responsibility as a consumer is to decide whether to buy that product as it is offered, fully cognisant of the fact that over time it will be replaced by something assumedly better.

Nowhere in the market-driven society in which we live, does Apple, or any other manufacturer, have a duty to include what you want. It's your duty to decide if what is offered is sufficient for your needs.

The bottom line is that Apple is a corporate entity which seeks to make money. It's not a charity.

 

[Gasu E.]

Pretty good move by Apple. Tease the masses with half-ass filled products like the 1st Generation iPad. Then, release something stuffed to the holes with new tech such as the iPhone 4.

Then release the iPad again with stuff it should have had considering what it was aimed to do: 512MB RAM, a front facing camera, and a gyroscope since they're aiming for gaming platforms, then make everyone buy it again.

Pretty much the same scheme they did with the iPhone 2G and iPhone 3G.

Bravo Apple, bravo.

Obviously there are a lot of people here with a limited sense of what it takes to bring a successful product to market.

Time to market is everything, and if you keep delaying your development to add that cool-new-feature-of-the-month you will never get there. Undisciplined, unfocused product development strategies fail 100% of the time.

The only question Apple should be asking is: "if we build the product according to the current design, will it succeed?" If the answer is "yes", then they must drive relentlessly to the finish. That is the only way for a product company to achieve business success.

 

[MattInOz]

Anyway, guaranteed that when iPad 2 comes out next April with all the stuff iPhone 4 has, then iPhone 5 will come out a couple of months later and make iPad 2 look pretty old just like iPhone 4 has done to iPad 1.

Rinse and repeat.

I think we'll see the iPad 2 in september as part of the iPod event and that will be it's normal update slot for years to come. That way the timetable will be preview new OS, WWDC, iPhone Release for new OS, iPod/iPad for new OS ready for xmas. Then the other six months can be Mac related.

Which is a short upgrade from iPad 1 but it was still a good device and know all the dev's have one they have to build lean to suit that device.

 

[tofa.nheu]

how tiny these things have become!

still know how big tey were in the cold-war surface-to-air-missiles: about 20x20x20cm (ok, they could survice over 15 G)

WOW
thats a pretty cool fact.

And yeah as somebody on the first page said. It's no surprise, Apple have this certain brand-name quality and amazing marketing campaign that leaves suckers like me wanting more and more. I just got my new MBP 2010, but I can't wait to get the iPad, and want to somehow find the money for an iPhone 4 (despite issues). Euh... too poor.

 

[koruki]

Wow you mean the iphone 4 which got released after the iPad makes the iPad look old? I don't see them as competing devices tbh

 

[firewood]

This wasn't about technology becoming obsolete, this was Apple knowingly giving the i... tech that was already obsolete by another product they were getting ready to release.

Hate to tell you this, but given Apple's R&D lead times, the i5 and possibly i6 are already in development. So not only the iPad, but the i4 are "obsolete" already. But don't even buy the i6 if you don't want "obsolete" tech, because by the time you can buy it, Apple will have the i7 and possibly i8 working in their labs.

 

[217833]

What to expect?

- Eventual new design
- Retina Display
- Gyroscope
- 512 Mb RAM
- Dual Cam
- Compatible with FaceTime.

Since it works in WiFi and doesn't use the Cell Network, now you'll get a way to visio-call your friends on their iPad, directly from your iPhone 4.