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Agreed - this is far more impressive than most people realize. The Pixel phones and the iPhone XR achieve this with a single lens by leveraging focus pixels to generate a depth map from available 3D information. The SE doesn’t have enough focus pixels for that, so it’s relying purely on machine learning, building a depth map from 2D information.

I’m surprised it was more cost effective to do it this way rather than just make the changes necessary to fit the XR rear camera module. That really speaks to the expense of retooling manufacturing.

Software solutions are almost always more cost effective, especially considering apple’s scale.
 
wonder if it works on pets... or if it will in the future
Hoping that no one minds a photo of me here, but I did a test photo when playing with my dog yesterday.

I'm not sure how the portrait mode works, but I was quite impressed that both myself and my dog are in focus.

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Hoping that no one minds a photo of me here, but I did a test photo when playing with my dog yesterday.

I'm not sure how the portrait mode works, but I was quite impressed that both myself and my dog are in focus.

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Great snap - though it still struggles with glasses extending outside the edge of the face. It's not a problem with the SE specifically, even the dual/triple lens iPhones still get that wrong more often than not.
 
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Great snap - though it still struggles with glasses extending outside the edge of the face. It's not a problem with the SE specifically, even the dual/triple lens iPhones still get that wrong more often than not.
Yes, I noticed that. I'd be annoyed if printing that at A3 or bigger, but as a snapshot I'm happy with it.

Next time I'll try with my sunglasses on which, being fully black, might not get cropped.
 
The processing power is impressive. The portrait mode effect, not so much.
 
We're truly living in the future: applying insanely complex technology to achieve gimmicky effects for mild entertainment!
 
I'm impressed, but I can't lie. I paid a LOT more money for my 8 Plus and yet look what it can't do when it has the SE hardware to do it if only Apple enabled the software to do the same magic. That's kind of a real bummer. If it was clearly only a matter of hardware, I'd understand, but this article states that it's not, so that makes it a Tim Cook Bean Counter decision. :(

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I'm impressed, but I can't lie. I paid a LOT more money for my 8 Plus and yet look what it can't do when it has the SE hardware to do it if only Apple enabled the software to do the same magic. That's kind of a real bummer.
But it doesn't have the SE hardware. It's missing the important part. The A13 Bionic chip.
 
I'd rather have night sight than fake looking bokeh. Instead of gimping features altogether like night sight, Apple should use an IAP system with one credit included with phone purchase to enable night sight and option to purchase additional feature(s) like fake bokeh.
 
I'd rather have night sight than fake looking bokeh. Instead of gimping features altogether like night sight, Apple should use an IAP system with one credit included with phone purchase to enable night sight and option to purchase additional feature(s) like fake bokeh.

Don’t give them any ideas! Sure they could do that, but the price of the phone wouldn’t drop
 
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She's probably the author's (Halide's) grandmother. Take a break, you'll be old too, sooner than you can imagine.
Agree. I think the lady's adorable.
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Great snap - though it still struggles with glasses extending outside the edge of the face. It's not a problem with the SE specifically, even the dual/triple lens iPhones still get that wrong more often than not.

Oh I hadn't noticed that. Weird. Lol.
 
Theoretically, you should be able to extract frames from a video, apply neural network from Portrait Mode on to each frame, and stitch it back into a video.

Highly likely iOS 14 will have Portrait Mode for video. Would be only enhanced with Lidar too. This will take cinematography on a smartphone to a whole new level.
Isn’t this is how we human distingish between closer and further object?
 
So I bit and purchased Halide for my new iPhone SE. The portrait mode for objects is not working at all. It claims it took a portrait photo and it is labeled as such in Apple's Photos app, but Edit does not produce the Portrait icon and adjustment option Halide shows in their video of how to use the feature.

I've contacted support at Halide with screenshots, but have not received a reply. I don't think it's user error, so buyer beware at this point for new iPhone SE owners.
 
But it doesn't have the SE hardware. It's missing the important part. The A13 Bionic chip.

it could, but it would take a second or two longer to process. The pixel 2 could do single camera bokeh simulation AND nightsight, and the iPhone 8’s CPU runs circles around that phone.

Apple is just protecting their high end flagship models.

oh well. At least we can buy NeuralCam for nightmode photos on older phones
 
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it could, but it would take a second or two longer to process. The pixel 2 could do single camera bokeh simulation AND nightsight, and the iPhone 8’s CPU runs circles around that phone.

Apple is just protecting their high end flagship models.

oh well. At least we can buy NeuralCam for nightmode photos on older phones
Apple uses a different sensor to power their night mode, it’s available on the XR but not the 8.

But yeah, as a general rule you can be sure you’re not going to get all the high end features of the flagship iPhone, or even the mid-tier in the entry level model. Which features are reserved for the mid- or highest tier are a function of engineering and marketing considerations, not just cost.
 
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Apple uses a different sensor to power their night mode, it’s available on the XR but not the 8.

But yeah, as a general rule you can be sure you’re not going to get all the high end features of the flagship iPhone, or even the mid-tier in the entry level model. Which features are reserved for the mid- or highest tier are a function of engineering and marketing considerations, not just cost.

night mode has nothing to do with the actual camera sensor. It’s all software
 
Google’s might be all software, but not Apple’s. To get the quality they wanted for night mode, Apple upgraded the sensor to have larger pixels and 100% Focus Pixels.

The father of night sight, Marc Levoy, publicly released his lecture for free so you don't have to second guess and learn how the software works. Focus pixels is for autofocus and not for night sight and the quality hasn't caught up with Marc Levoy's original work.

http://graphics.stanford.edu/talks/seeinthedark-public-15sep16.key.pdf

 
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Sorry, you are misinformed.
Maybe it’s Apple that’s misinformed?

A new Wide sensor with 100 percent Focus Pixels enables Night mode, delivering huge improvements to photos captured in indoor and outdoor low-light environments, resulting in brighter images with natural colors and reduced noise.




All iPhone 11 models feature a new Wide sensor with 100 percent Focus Pixels that enables Night mode, delivering low-light photos captured in indoor and outdoor environments never before possible on iPhone.

 
Anyone have any luck taking pet portraits with this app? Just got my SE and I'll grab it if it works as well as it seems.
 
Anyone have any luck taking pet portraits with this app? Just got my SE and I'll grab it if it works as well as it seems.

No. I am not getting the Portrait Adjustment to come up in Photos>Edit, despite what this video shows.

Attached are examples, where I put the focus on the bowl. You can see that Halide's depth map is there, and it shows it was taken as a portrait in Photos, but when you go to Edit, the Portrait Mode adjustment is simply not there. This is with the iPhone SE update that Halide did, Version 1.17.0. Frustrating! I have written to them but not received a response.

I'm actually having success and better results with the app Focos.
 

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