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Looks great in renders, but in real life is huge.

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I was expecting the Apple watch to be slim like a normal watch, but it is also too bulky for my taste. I will keep using analog watches until smarwatches become thinner.

yikes, I would never put that on my wrist
 
It happens every time. When the iPad was introduced, hell broke lose on the web. I remember that Steve Jobs got almost depressed after reading so many negative comments. Only to come back with a success story the year after. Even now, iPad continues to be the tablet of choice for many people. The emotions will disappear in the coming weeks and months.

I am positively surprised of the Apple Watch and I say that as someone who doesn’t like watches and is very sceptical of the prospects of smartwatches at this time. Apple has done several things right – they put a lot of effort into design and customisability; they thought about interaction by adding the crown and a new gesture; they included specific hardware to measure some of your vital signs, to give the watch some unique capabilities (killer apps); and they added lots of fun elements with the walkie-talkie and gesture communication and gimmicky watch interfaces. Add to that some decent iOS 8 integration, this could be very interesting.

Even though I am not the target customer for this product, I can see its benefits and success. My only two concerns are that the user experience looked very unorganised and confusing, with lots of random swipes and hard presses and an unintuitive UI overall. It is certainly not the most straightforward product to use, especially when compared with Android Wear’s more simple approach. The other concern is the battery life, which Apple was completely secretive about. They did say that you can ‘charge it at night’, suggesting at least an all-day battery life, but they should have addressed it as it tends to be the number-one concern with smartwatches. Now I’m thinking that they haven’t solved that problem yet.
The iphone and ipad revolutionized and or created and improved on devices that we used or were starting to use in our daily lives so much already. I mean the design, and ease of the iphone and the touch screen. The ipad has replaced many people computers for the most part. The Iwatch is an accessory that you need to have an iphone with you at all times that you can't compare it with the iphone or ipad. It just doesn't do anything on its own that is different or better than the iphone.
 
Steve would only have released this if he was first or it was leaps and bounds ahead of what was out there. This really doesn't have much if anything over the Moto 360, specially in the looks dept. Most people who wear watched these days is for the fashion statement. Steve would have never lowered himself into following the smart watch wave like cattle. If they were not going to be first they could have waited a bit more to see how the competition stacks up and wether or not these things will actually sell.
 
And do you know why Samsung, Motorola, and Google have smart watches? Because a while back they heard a rumor that Apple was making one... :eek:


It's THIS THREAD ALL OVER AGAIN. Apple can't innovate, Apple just builds "me-too" products, too expensive, gimmicky, etc etc-- except back then it was all Steve Jobs' fault...

Can you prove that they weren't working on a watch before apple was. That they heard that apple was creating one and had a meeting and panicked and screamed that they had to get a watch out before apple did. All this sounds like is the excuse people use if they can't say that (fill in the blank) just copied what apple did.
 
Looks great in renders, but in real life is huge.

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I was expecting the Apple watch to be slim like a normal watch, but it is also too bulky for my taste. I will keep using analog watches until smarwatches become thinner.

First of all apple's width looks huge and chunky compared to 360.
Notice all the watch pictures you see is of the mini. not the full or bigger size.
I have yet to see actual footage of the regular size. And there's a reason for that.
They are hiding it, just like they are hiding the battery life. Disgusting.
Its huge and alot clunkier than 360. huge is an understatement

meanwhile 360 looks good when worn even from the side:

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look at it being displayed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA4vs-g_pq8

I'm sorry but im not wearing this toy.

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http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/09/us-markets-stocks-idUSKBN0H410J20140909

Anybody ever remember Apple stock FALLING on a major product announcement?
From Daring Fireball:

You can actually check these things. Stock prices and the dates of Steve Jobs’s product announcements are matters of fact:

23 October 2001, introduction of original iPod: AAPL fell about 5 percent.

7 January 2002, Macworld Expo keynote: AAPL fell 4 percent.

7 January 2003, Macworld Expo keynote: AAPL fell slightly.

6 January 2004, Macworld Expo keynote, introduction of iPod Mini: AAPL fell slightly.

11 January 2005, Macworld Expo keynote: AAPL fell over 6 percent.

10 January 2006, Macworld Expo keynote: AAPL rose over 6 percent.

9 January 2007, Macworld Expo keynote, introduction of the iPhone, now seen as the biggest and most important product introduction in Apple, and perhaps industry, history: AAPL rose over 8 percent.

15 January 2008, Macworld Expo keynote, introduction of MacBook Air: AAPL fell over 5 percent.

9 June 2008, WWDC keynote, introduction of iPhone 3G: AAPL fell 2 percent

27 January 2010, introduction of original iPad: AAPL was up slightly on the day, but then dropped and kept dropping for days.

7 June 2010, introduction of iPhone 4 (last phone introduced by Jobs): AAPL fell slightly, then dropped 3 percent the next day.
http://daringfireball.net/2013/10/apples_stock_price_product_announcements
 
It happens every time. When the iPad was introduced, hell broke lose on the web. I remember that Steve Jobs got almost depressed after reading so many negative comments. Only to come back with a success story the year after. Even now, iPad continues to be the tablet of choice for many people. The emotions will disappear in the coming weeks and months.

I hear this all the time - "oh the Ipod 1G was dismissed as a gimmick and look at it now" - which idiots dismissed it as a gimmick? Portable music players had been around for 25 years when the 1G Ipod first came out, so it wasn't a gimmicky idea and there was a market for it, additionally there were no credible competitors to the 1G Ipod, all the other mp3 players of that era were complete junk. The few that weren't had unusable software (Sony). Again with the Ipad - there was a market for tablets, this was identified years ago and again with the competitors, no credible ones. This is being dismissed for valid reasons, putting aside the lack of functionality, it's freakin ugly, plus its fragile. It's not even waterproof! I'm not saying smart watches won't end up being worn by the masses at some point in the future, but what I'm saying is this model iWatch won't. It fails on many levels. It will probably still sell a reasonable amount, but that doesn't make it any good.
 
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Hey guys, Google here. Today we are pleased to announce a revolutionary new product category. This amazing device was designed from the ground up be worn on your wrist. It has a magnificent circular touchscreen, the first of its kind. Truly magical. In terms of design, our goal was to create an elegant fashion accessory that wouldn't look out of place alongside premium Swiss timepieces. We're extremely proud of what we came up with, and we think that our customers are absolutely going to love it.

Introducing the Moto 360:

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But have u read the reviews? Comments such as

"The sad news is that, while the company mostly nailed the exterior design, Motorola totally dropped the ball when it comes to the internal components. Somehow, it managed to dig up a batch of crusty old OMAP 3 SoCs for its flagship watch. The 2010-era processor is old, slow, inefficient, and power hungry. Couple that with a 320mAh battery and we get around half the runtime of other Android Wear devices."

Form versus actual function. On function, Apple wins. If your "dressing for success" or to impress, get a Tag, Breitling, Rolex, etc - not a Smart Watch of any manufacturer.
 
I hear this all the time - "oh the Ipod 1G was dismissed as a gimmick and look at it now" - which idiots dismissed it as a gimmick? Portable music players had been around for 25 years when the 1G Ipod first came out, so it wasn't a gimmicky idea and there was a market for it, additionally there were no credible competitors to the 1G Ipod, all the other mp3 players of that era were complete junk. The few that weren't had unusable software (Sony). Again with the Ipad - there was a market for tablets, this was identified years ago and again with the competitors, no credible ones. This is being dismissed for valid reasons, putting aside the lack of functionality, it's freakin ugly, plus its fragile. It's not even waterproof! I'm not saying smart watches won't end up being worn by the masses at some point in the future, but what I'm saying is this model iWatch won't. It fails on many levels. It will probably still sell a reasonable amount, but that doesn't make it any good.

Those were all stand alone devices that didn't need a device that did everything better than said device nor did it need a different device to fully function.
 
I hear this all the time - "oh the Ipod 1G was dismissed as a gimmick and look at it now" - which idiots dismissed it as a gimmick? Portable music players had been around for 25 years when the 1G Ipod first came out, so it wasn't a gimmicky idea and there was a market for it, additionally there were no credible competitors to the 1G Ipod, all the other mp3 players of that era were complete junk. The few that weren't had unusable software (Sony). Again with the Ipad - there was a market for tablets, this was identified years ago and again with the competitors, no credible ones. This is being dismissed for valid reasons, putting aside the lack of functionality, it's freakin ugly, plus its fragile. It's not even waterproof! I'm not saying smart watches won't end up being worn by the masses at some point in the future, but what I'm saying is this model iWatch won't. It fails on many levels. It will probably still sell a reasonable amount, but that doesn't make it any good.

All smartwatches fail, the idea of a watch is to show the time and to provide time-related functionality. You wear it and you can forget about it, unless you leave your time-zone or you need to exchange the battery after years in case you have a digital watch.

Now we get computers, not providing the basic functionality of watches at all. There is simply no affordable technology around, smartwatches will evolve over time.

Talking about battery life, charging methods and size of electronic components.
 
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Personally I wouldn't call it cheap. I can get a polar watch for 199 dollar with the heart rate monitor. Other than the heart rate monitor my iphone can do everything the iwatch can do and can do it better. To me this thing is a 199 to 250 dollar device. But alas that's just my opinion.

Of course it's all relative, but compared to a $10K fine Swiss timepiece, $350 is pretty thrifty.
 
Crappy design, useless features.

I am not taking off my titanium Omega Seamaster Professional for this crap,
 
Can you prove that they weren't working on a watch before apple was. That they heard that apple was creating one and had a meeting and panicked and screamed that they had to get a watch out before apple did. All this sounds like is the excuse people use if they can't say that (fill in the blank) just copied what apple did.

Oh, they likely were working on them, just like Google was working on a phone before the iPhone was released. Now, the current crop of Android-based smart watches look pretty good but you can bet that much of what Samsung, Motorola, Google, and LG do with watches is preemptive or "forward-reactionary" to what they think Apple will do. They'd be stupid not to. Apple sets the tone. If smart watches are successful, it will be because of Apple. Outside the Pebble (great watch but many limitations) no smart watch thus far has been close to successful.
 
Of course it's all relative, but compared to a $10K fine Swiss timepiece, $350 is pretty thrifty.

True, but I don't think it's quite rational to compare it to a swiss time piece. I mean we could sort of say the same thing about fake rolexes you might buy in NYC's China town.
 
One of my favorite parts of Apple events is reading all the disappointed comments that people post on the products. What's even better than reading all the comments (made by foremost design artists here at macrumors)? The fact that 90% of you go out and buy the products that you hate so very much.

What he said. Never seen so many armchair engineers and industrial designers who are sniveling and complaining about a new product that so far anyone who has actually seen it in person, has nothing but praise for the design, workmanship and features. When the AppleWatch sells its 10,000,000 unit, will be fun to come back here and laugh at all of your comments.
 
Oh, they likely were working on them, just like Google was working on a phone before the iPhone was released. Now, the current crop of Android-based smart watches look pretty good but you can bet that much of what Samsung, Motorola, Google, and LG do with watches is preemptive or "forward-reactionary" to what they think Apple will do. They'd be stupid not to. Apple sets the tone. If smart watches are successful, it will be because of Apple. Outside the Pebble (great watch but many limitations) no smart watch thus far has been close to successful.

First you said that the only reason they made one was because they heard apple was. Now, you're saying they likely were making them before they heard apple was. None of what you're saying is making sense. The truth of the matter is apple should have waited another year with all the hires they recently made and what they would have had would have been a monster. This thing that they created however I feel is the result of feeling like they had to rush because of all the smart watches coming out. I'm not sure if they felt that they were indeed missing out on a lot of revenue by not having one out. But whatever this watch is they revealed feels so unpolished. It's just not and we all know when they put their mind to it they are hard to beat.
 
Can you prove that Samsung and Motorola weren't creating a device before they heard apple was?

No, I can't. Can you prove they were? I know the Samsung CEO said they were (and it would be great to take him at his word but he also can't say "We just want to copy Apple").

Also, read my previous reply. Someone would have to be naive to think that Samsung and Motorola weren't developing watches and trying to account for what Apple might do. That's how you keep up or keep ahead. Apple tries to account for what other phone makers do (hence the larger iPhones). Because Apple is the market leader and sets the majority of the trends, they don't have to react as quickly.
 
To top it off, Apple made the most un-Apple move and previewed without releasing. Yeah, they did it with the Mac Pro, but that was a professional level device which sales were not dependant on hype, but instead relied on a solid base of tested and supported apps, which the lead-time allowed for. This watch is a consumer product, and Apple have taken a (bad) page out of all other tech companies' books and previewed miles before the release. To top it off, nothing irritates me, and I'm sure others, more than when a company says "Spring 2015" and releases on the last day of the season, it just looks bad and Apple made that error with the thin iMacs and the Mac Pro; I fear they will do it here too.

Original iPhone announced January 9, 2007
Released June 29, 2007. 5 and a half months!

iPad announced January 2010
Released April 2010. 3 months.

How is this any different at all?
 
No, I can't. Can you prove they were? I know the Samsung CEO said they were (and it would be great to take him at his word but he also can't say "We just want to copy Apple").

Also, read my previous reply. Someone would have to be naive to think that Samsung and Motorola weren't developing watches and trying to account for what Apple might do. That's how you keep up or keep ahead. Apple tries to account for what other phone makers do (hence the larger iPhones). Because Apple is the market leader and sets the majority of the trends, they don't have to react as quickly.

That logic is so stupid, and you're the one vehemently insisting that they were. Yet you have no evidence of it. That's such a childish argument you are using I don't think I'm going to bother having a discussion with you if you're going to use that type of mindset. You can't accuse someone of something without having evidence. It makes your credibility non existent.
 
True, but I don't think it's quite rational to compare it to a swiss time piece. I mean we could sort of say the same thing about fake rolexes you might buy in NYC's China town.

Don't overestimate swiss time pieces. My Maurice Lacroix ( really expensive one ) was off time and could not be fixed, my titanium T-Touch II failed completely after the first battery exchange. Now I wear no watch and will probably buy a smartwatch in 2015.
 
It’s ugly and lacks functionality. If Apple think they are selling something that will appeal to the mass market, they are highly deluded. Perhaps in 2 – 3 years, when the smart watch has evolved, more people will start wearing them, but in its current guise, it’s nothing more than an ugly gimmick.

So funny as I wonder what you will say when these sell in the millions? In my circle of friends of 8 people, 7 love it and want one day one...
 
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