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Technohiliac people, maybe. Other people? Considerably less so.

Well, the JooJoo is advertised as an "internet and media" device, so it makes sense to have all those features, especially widescreen, flash and HD capabilities.
 
A lot of people here are upset by the Apple device but in the end they write I´ll buy one. Is it because you all are bored? Or is there a inner voice that tells you to do so?
Maybe you ask you doctor :)
 
Reminds me very much of the hype and then "that's it?" that followed the original iPod introduction in 2001 (a $399 product at intro - amazing)...a paradigm shift that's slightly ahead of its time that gradually infiltrated our daily lives in unexpected ways.

Thats exactly how I see this device, and with revisions it will only get better.
 
I am sensing a flop personally

I'm not sure if it's a flop...but I'm really not interested in it. Nothing's really jumping out at me. I am also an owner of an iPhone 3GS, iPod Classic, Dell netbook, and a few other Windows pcs and a Mac Mini. A lot of people also have iPods...and the #s keep on growing for iPhones.

So for all those iPod and/or iPhone users out there, what's the value here? Sure, it's sexy but it doesn't really excite me. So we can play a game on it...big deal...it's not called the iGame. Reading books...definitely a cool feature. Reading/surfing the web?...boring...anything and everything can do that...gotta love how the iPad failed to open the web page correctly.

Overall I think it's probably worthwhile to someone that owns ZERO Apple products AND does not own a netbook yet. Other than that demographic, I think the iPad is going to have lackluster sales...at least for version 1.0...which begins selling 3/27 and 4/27 depending on version you buy.

I'm also very very very interested to see how all the e-book stuff pans out on the iPad (and also Kindle)...who owns the content, what happens if my iPad is stolen, can I get books from any vendor or just Apple iTunes monopoly, can I "borrow" a book from a friend like I can now, can I "borrow" a book from the library like I can now, and many other copyright/ownership control questions.

Also, the baseline really should have shipped with 32GB of space if Apple's going to tout all the video and music and game and book capabilities. 16GB of space is a sham...most people who truly intend on using this for music, games, books, videos will need the 32GB or 64GB...now your talking quite a bit more money.

Let's all come back to the forum in mid Spring when it's been for sale for a bit and has been actually used by consumers and not over-excited news reporters (and do you really think NY Times is going to be honest with its review?!).

-Eric
 
What a waste of semen!

I am calmly disappointed abou the iPad.
I agree to one poster who called this a pitiful waste of hype. I'd like to add - what a waste of semen!
Apple folks did a huge effort to create a "nothing special" a we say in Latvia. For me it is a sad flop because: 1) technologically it is a blow-up-job for intellectually discapacitated, 2) on the looks front it has this daunish bezel that strips off all its expected radicalism that the first iPhone had.
 
Those tablets (at least the modern ones) use much more powerful Intel chips than 1Ghz A4 processor used in iPad. So if you think those tablets were sluggish wait until you try iPad. The sluggish part though could have come from slow hard drives. But now they use Solid State Disks.

Windows on a small X86 tablet is much much slower than an optimised mobile OS on a custom CPU. It really lags, no miracle. I'm not talking about the 2004 OQO but even the latest ones. Unless you use a Core2 Duo CPU but then it's not ultraportable anymore.
 
iPhone is hugely better than iPad in one practical respect

You can use iPhone as a vibrator, but iPad you can't.
 
Windows on a small X86 tablet is much much slower than an optimised mobile OS on a custom CPU. It really lags, no miracle. I'm not talking about the 2004 OQO but even the latest ones. Unless you use a Core2 Duo CPU but then it's not ultraportable anymore.
Core 2 ULV gets down there in the wattage. Don't count it out when you can do a RAID SSD.
 
so has anyone realized that in the tech specs it pretty clearly states no GPS on the wifi only version?

I've noticed and said so. Technically you can claim it has GPS if you have the 3g version and a data contract but it uses cell towers to do the GPS work just like the Iphone does , if you get the WIFI only model then you will not have GPS because there is no built in GPS receiver. It does have the digital compass like the 2nd gen Touch which is cool but that is not the same as GPS. (Edit- add info) I would like to correct something and that is I have found there is assisted GPS with a GPS receiver locally but I am referring to stand alone mode and anyway where do you think that GPS receiver is- it's on the cellular card, so my conclusion stands that the WIFI only model does not have a GPS receiver since it does not have the 3g card.





Also I read this is OS 3.x?? So will the early adopters get the shaft like the Touch users and have to pay $20 to get the OS 4.0 update??? I'm interested in the WiFi version as a replacement for my Ipod Touch but I'm not buying untill it ships with OS 4.0
 
I have been wracking my brain for the perfect Apple intro for my parents. I have been waiting to see what the ill named iPad had to offer, and like lots of other people wondered where it would fit.

I think of the target group like my mom. She is NOT computer savvy, however touch screen is pretty intuitive. She is in her 60s but still willing to learn and the iPad is lightweight. Her only needs really on the internet is email, and uploading/downloading photos. She also does online banking. She keeps her appointments on a calendar in the laundry room.

I think....perhaps.... the iPad might be ideally suited to an intro product for her. Firstly it is small and can be just set aside anywhere in the house if I set up WiFi for them. The keyboard stand might be a requirement as well as the slip case, not sure.

It would work as a calendar that they both could refer to if they aren't too lazy to turn the damn thing on or put the entries in LOL.

When my mother travels to the farm (where my relations either don't have internet, or have dial up) she can take all of the photos she wants with her to show them.

It has possibilities. A full blown macbook would cost a hell of a lot more (and have way more resources)than what she would use it for. I think with the touch it would be a pretty intuitive and easy system without the initial confusion from going from PC driven OS to Mac. There is not much to the OS and therefore not much there to confuse new users with.

Opinions?
 
It sure would be nice to be able to keep listening to Pandora while gaming. Or checking email. Or sending IM's. Or browsing the internet. Or doing a combinatin of the above.

Yeah, that is the first thing I thought of--I like using Sirius or Pandora--but have to listen to my library if I want to do most anything else. But I did go and look at the video and was impressed by the presentation. I don't think I need one now, but I wouldn't rule one out in the future. I think it has some real potential as the product and the applications develop over time--just like they did for the iPhone.

As for Flash, well I wish it would just go away as in my experience it is a total resource hog--Flash would totally destroy that 10 hour live span of the battery.
 
Technologically it's a very impressive device. However it seems completely useless for people who already have a laptop.

I find the screen resolution a bit low and since there is no way to install your own softwares I have no idea why I would buy such a thing. I much prefer to read real books than hurt my eyes on a screen. Reading news online? How fun. Youtube/Facebook? Hurg is it really worth it? It's also too expensive, all versions should be 3G, whatever that is.

The only thing I would use it for would be to watch movies or listen to iTunes in my kitchen while I cook. But then, for that price you can get a HDtv and a iPod.

Strangely, I think what it has the most potential for is portable gaming, but that is a market of 15 years old kids.

It is a good technological showcase from Apple, but meh I would never buy that sort of stuff even if it was around 150-200$

If it could record audio professionally, be used as an external screen and support full Os X and upgrades, perhaps.
 
At least they had the foresight to make an attachment for cameras. I was imagining a use-case where I would take the iPad on a vacation instead of my MBP, and wanting to get the photos off my digital camera.

But you just said, there's an attachment for cameras. There's also a card reader peripheral. I agree that a usb port would have been nice, but it's not impossible.

Hopefully they will include support for wireless printing via wifi.[/QUOTE]

You are talking about the past. Take a look at this creature:

Looks cool, but it's another one that's twice the cost of the base iPad.

What are you going to bench?

Well, for a start you could benchmark the web browser. That's a fair amount more useful than just claiming it's slow without ever having used it.
 
It's the developers that will make or break this device, and judging by what they've done with the iPhone/iPod, the iPad will become more and more useful and be able to do more of the things that are missing right now.

Apple provided the foundation...the incredibly robust developer community will take us forward.

I think this is one of the most salient points from this discussion.


Overall I think the device is about as good as it could be. Would have preferred a new hybrid display that gives vibrant colours with high-refresh rates as well as eInk-like properties - but that was never really going to happen.
Camera would have been nice, and was a possibility. They have to leave something for v2, of course.
The rest is just software or was never reasonable, IMHO.

Read the blog. There's more :)
 
(and do you really think NY Times is going to be honest with its review?!).

-Eric



Dude the NYtimes is even in the featured websites in the conferences, they are in on the market shares of Apple; big time partners.

There is no way they would say it's not worth it.
 
Technologically it's a very impressive device. However it seems completely useless for people who already have a laptop.


No it doesn't. I have a laptop, and I spend a lot of time away from home doing little more than reading and not really needing to create substantial amount of content. Reading on a laptop is a real PITA for me. For a start the screen orientation is completely at odds with the page orientation of most documents, requiring me to spend an inordinate amount of time scrolling around when I zoom a pdf to a size that makes for leisurely reading. Then I have to have a stable surface for the computer to sit on unless I want to cook my thighs. Finally, I always have to take a power adapter with me as I never get close to the kind of battery life that I require (I only get around 2 hours from my machine these days).

Personally, the idea of something I can hold in my hand, sit with comfortably, that can hold an entire library of books and documentation, display them in their proper orientation, that stays on for a long time and that isn't as weighty or bulky as a laptop+PSU combo gets a massive thumbs up from this laptop owner.
 
Actually the iPad is the death to the iPod touch. I am utterly lovely touching my iPod touch (1st Gen.) while writing this, but lets face it. The iPhone is the phone plus the iPod touch, the iPad is the multimedia device, so there will never be newer versions of the iPod touch as the iPhone is the small device that can do a lot, the iPad is the one that does those things even more beautiful and the MacBook (Pro and above) are the ones that do those things one handed and can even more.

A pity, but the iPod nano has got the camera i wanted. The iPad has the apps i wanted. Still i do see a lot of potential in the iPod touch but they will discontinue it.

However, this is just my opinion, so don't hang me for the comment.

I agree about the Touch to some extent. I was hoping there would be a 3rd gen Touch with a larger screen but in the 6-7 inch range. This Ipad IS the next generation Touch. The current version will be around for a while but at the $200-$300 price point and no more development of features so it is at a dead end..
 
I am having issues with these

1) no usb port:
very convient way to transfer files and media. The ipod connector is lame as it forces one to have to use itunes

2) the size
personally, i do not want to carry around a touch screen that large. its really not a convient sized portable....like an iphone that you can just throw in poscket and not really worry about it. this thing is as convenient to me as would be lugging my laptop around

3) capability
I am struggling to see the push to get this if you already have an iphone/touch

I really think this is knee jerk reaction to make a tablet. i see no real market. at least with the ipod, it was a distinct market that was hugely popular (music on the go)

where is the market for a tablet?
 
It feels to me like Apple is milking the cow here (iPhone success).
Trying to think if iPad fits for the average computer user and that's because of its price at $499.

As a "desktop" computer though it seems crippled (needs a host, no multitasking, no camera, limited hd)

It's rather exciting though to look at the iPad OS as the base for the next MacOS of multitouch Macs.

If the iPad comes in 2 months time, does this mean that we don't get multitasking and front face camera anytime soon for the iPhone? :/

It's not a desktop computer. It's a couch-top computer.

Has iPhone multi-tasking - music concurrency and push-notification.

Forget Face camera - not in gen1. If that's your 'minimum' requirement then it's a Macbook for you.
 
What is a microSIM? is it just a sim card or something different? is it the same as the ones we use in the uk?

The "microSIM" is also known as a 3FF SIM card ("3rd form factor"). The actual chip and connection are the same as the common 2FF SIM, but there is less plastic. You can convert a 2FF SIM by cutting it down to the right size. You can get tools to do this on ebay, etc.
 
Game-changer. Period. End of story.

Developers will cream themselves over this. Apps will be much more powerful, intuitive, and capable.

It's missing a couple of things. Like every hit Apple product. Butt that's not what sells it. It's the overall experience.

We're looking at the future here. It's getting rave reviews from the industry. And the price is right, and not only that, these will be even cheaper in due course, a la iPhone.

Tablet-makers, start your photocopiers. Apple just hit another one out of the park.

Once you peel away the buzzwords.... nah.

Game-changer is such a lazy phrase. What game is changing??? I'm sitting here on my couch with my MBP, yet I don't have to prop the damn thing up with my knees and type at a 60 degree angle.

Just like a Segway.... at the core, it's a scooter. This... at the core, it's an iPod.
 
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