I wish I could switch carriers but Verizon is the only dog in this town. No Cingular in my area.Oh come on! It's only available to Cingular customers?!?! What is Apple thinking???
A) I'm not going to switch phone carriers AGAIN,
B) Why aren't they at least including Verizon?!... the biggest network AND the highest rated network by Consumer Reports...
SUCH a short-sighted and unappealing move by Apple!
I would have bought one of these in a heartbeat, but not now with the pain of being forced to one cell phone company...
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No iPhone for me anytime soon
I love the way it truly syncs your Apple Address Book, iCal and even the iTunes. I love that it has WiFi, widgets and the rest of the new features but...I will not buy one until they make a few important changes.
1)External Storage - Imagine your important data that you need all the time like your contacts and calendars in the internal memory but being able to put your music or movies on an external SD memory card or two. I have a Sony PSP (Playstation Portable)for now with a nice size screen and memory stick pro duo card for playing movies. The PSP is also capable of playing a really nice game or two.
2)Replaceable Battery - I will never buy another iPod or the new iPhone until you can change batteries during those heavy talk times or when you forget to charge the one and only. My Treo is fine for now. External SD memory card, replaceable battery, plays movies (with Kinoma Player) and I can still sync all of my contacts or calendars even wirelessly using bluetooth on the Mac. TomTom Navigator is another plus on the Treo and you can also download Google Earth for it. The browser sucks but having bluetooth allows me to use my computer anywhere if I need a real browser or email. Even the PSP has replaceable batteries.
A phone is much more important when you use it for business. I can't afford a dead battery. An Excel compatible program would also be a plus. At first I was excited about the iPhone and I was even ready to switch carriers when my plan ran out but after reading the following:
http://blog.treonauts.com/2007/01/palm_treo_680_v.html
I thought about it more and maybe I will be ready when the 3G, as in Generation iPhone comes out with those features. I'm loving my 9 Macs but not ready to trade in my 4 cell phones yet. Not trying to be negative but maybe Steve will read this and make a few changes for the better before June. Yeah it's almost midnight and I guess I'm dreaming.
I love the way it truly syncs your Apple Address Book, iCal and even the iTunes. I love that it has WiFi, widgets and the rest of the new features but...I will not buy one until they make a few important changes.
1)External Storage - Imagine your important data that you need all the time like your contacts and calendars in the internal memory but being able to put your music or movies on an external SD memory card or two. I have a Sony PSP (Playstation Portable)for now with a nice size screen and memory stick pro duo card for playing movies. The PSP is also capable of playing a really nice game or two.
2)Replaceable Battery - I will never buy another iPod or the new iPhone until you can change batteries during those heavy talk times or when you forget to charge the one and only. My Treo is fine for now. External SD memory card, replaceable battery, plays movies (with Kinoma Player) and I can still sync all of my contacts or calendars even wirelessly using bluetooth on the Mac. TomTom Navigator is another plus on the Treo and you can also download Google Earth for it. The browser sucks but having bluetooth allows me to use my computer anywhere if I need a real browser or email. Even the PSP has replaceable batteries.
A phone is much more important when you use it for business. I can't afford a dead battery. An Excel compatible program would also be a plus. At first I was excited about the iPhone and I was even ready to switch carriers when my plan ran out but after reading the following:
http://blog.treonauts.com/2007/01/palm_treo_680_v.html
I thought about it more and maybe I will be ready when the 3G, as in Generation iPhone comes out with those features. I'm loving my 9 Macs but not ready to trade in my 4 cell phones yet. Not trying to be negative but maybe Steve will read this and make a few changes for the better before June. Yeah it's almost midnight and I guess I'm dreaming.
Sweet!
I don't imagine that it won't be a long time until we see Flash memory being used in more and more ultra laptop computers and other digital devices.
Cingular
One must assume that for all of the iPhone's features to execute properly the other end of the network has to have the right infrastructure. Unlocked would be nice, but all of the carriers have network resources specific to what they sell.
Verizon Wireless didn't sell Bluetooth enabled phones, so I went without because I didn't want to change my mobile business number and screw up customer relations. Then they made phone numbers transferrable but I heard Apple was working on a cell phone and I've been waiting ever since.
Now that it's here I hope all corporate entities do the right thing and not stick us too hard. I really want this phone and would love to use the browser and email and all of the other nifty stuff, but my business is not talking on or playing with a phone.
Bravo Apple, it looks like a winner. Let's hope the "rest of us" can afford it, not just the "best off of us".
One must assume that for all of the iPhone's features to execute properly the other end of the network has to have the right infrastructure. Unlocked would be nice, but all of the carriers have network resources specific to what they sell.
Verizon Wireless didn't sell Bluetooth enabled phones, so I went without because I didn't want to change my mobile business number and screw up customer relations. Then they made phone numbers transferrable but I heard Apple was working on a cell phone and I've been waiting ever since.
Now that it's here I hope all corporate entities do the right thing and not stick us too hard. I really want this phone and would love to use the browser and email and all of the other nifty stuff, but my business is not talking on or playing with a phone.
Bravo Apple, it looks like a winner. Let's hope the "rest of us" can afford it, not just the "best off of us".
While I hope you are correct, nothing was said at the Keynote nor posted on the official web site regarding it.
Stop Complaining
Will you people stop complaining already? This is a breakthrough device that we have not seen all of. By June I am sure we will see wireless synching, ringtone making, more widgets, etc. Also here is a nice newsflash for you guys.
WWDC 2007
Calendar: Conferences
When: Sun, June 10, 2007, 1:00 pm - Fri, June 15, 2007, 1:00 pm
iPhone update/ Leopard release date anyone??????
Again... this was a Preview not something for sure yet.
also.... for any apple guys working there tell steve to have the background also be used in the home screen behind the buttons in the UI.
EDIT:
http://www.auc.edu.au/tiki-calendar.php?editmode=details&calitemId=35
for any of you skeptics
Will you people stop complaining already? This is a breakthrough device that we have not seen all of. By June I am sure we will see wireless synching, ringtone making, more widgets, etc. Also here is a nice newsflash for you guys.
WWDC 2007
Calendar: Conferences
When: Sun, June 10, 2007, 1:00 pm - Fri, June 15, 2007, 1:00 pm
iPhone update/ Leopard release date anyone??????
Again... this was a Preview not something for sure yet.
also.... for any apple guys working there tell steve to have the background also be used in the home screen behind the buttons in the UI.
EDIT:
http://www.auc.edu.au/tiki-calendar.php?editmode=details&calitemId=35
for any of you skeptics
The value of the iPhone is not only what it is now, but mostly what it may become. Such potential is due to the Mac OS X inside it. The same as with the Mac. But for that Apple must deliver. Apple must allow to use the iPhone as a miniaturized Mac, so that you can use it to give wireless presentations, install and run any application (even Parallels Desktop), synchronize with your Mac, carry all your stuff in it (your whole Mac in your pocket), boot from it any Mac to work on a larger screen, etc. Then the iPhone will become a new standard. Can Apple deliver?
320 by 480 on the iPhone isn't all that great of a resolution. And it certainly isn't high resolution. My iPaq has 800 x 600. That being said the screen will be perfectly fine since even quarter VGA resolution looks good when done right.
Keep dreaming. There is NO way in heck the iPhone will ever be able to run parallels. And frankly if it did you would get 30 minutes of battery life, at best.
Well my plan with Cingular is almost 2 yrs old and I am paying $19.95 for unlimited data. On top of my $39.00 phone plan. So I am not sure what you are talking about unless their plan prices have gone up. I would not say they are the most expensive, I would say Verizon is since they charge you for each an every feature you want to add to the plan, they have those nice entry level plans but before you know your paying more.
Gee, you right, I am surprised that no one else picked this up, I use my voice dail all the time, I hardly look up a number on my phone, I say the name especially in the car. If they do not incorporate this feature it will not be too user friendly especially when you are driving. I think someone said here her comes more accidents.
What you're paying $19.95 for is unlimited WAP and some other services that typically would be in a phone, but not a PDA or laptop. (This is branded MediaNET or SmartPhone Connect.) Cingular's "plans" for PDA and laptop use, which generally open up the use of more services including access to non-WAP websites, are generally much higher. PDA Connect Unlimited is $40 (though quota plans start at 5Mb for $19.95.) Blackberry Unlimited is an amazing $45. Tethered plans are frequently even more.
That said, reading Cingular's page on it, I wouldn't be surprised if Cingular does an Apple over the next few months and reorganizes their data options to be much simpler. By comparison, T-Mobile offers the equivalent of MediaNET Unlimited/SmartPhone Connect Unlimited for $6 a month, and "Tethered Plans" for $20 - and actually doesn't care if you use the $6 for your laptop (interestingly, right now, the service is completely unblocked, you can use it for anything including browsing the real WWW, not just WAP and MMS, so there's little point in using the $20 plan. That could change at any time though.)
Oh come on! It's only available to Cingular customers?!?! What is Apple thinking???
A) I'm not going to switch phone carriers AGAIN,
B) Why aren't they at least including Verizon?!... the biggest network AND the highest rated network by Consumer Reports...
SUCH a short-sighted and unappealing move by Apple!
I would have bought one of these in a heartbeat, but not now with the pain of being forced to one cell phone company...
Simple, Verizon lack any vision and could never work with Apple. Verizon has no clue about technologies and where things are going, they are like MS look at what eveyone is doing and use thier market force to compete. What I mean by that is they build road blocks to make it hard for anyone else to compete with them. I can go on and on with what Verizon has done to slow technology adoption like something as the iphone.
As I said before, you will probably not see a CDMA version of this phone since the only company that makes the chips is Qualcomm and from a world wide view is a small part of the market. I could be wrong if Verizon somehow convinces Apple, but it probably be 2 or 3 yrs away. Look at how long it took the RAZR to show up at Verizon, that because of Qualcomm was unable to make a low power chip and Verizon demand that things about the phone be change to restrict what the customer can do with the phone.
If I was you I would run away from Verizon...
Actually, that is for data, I connect the phone to my computer via cable/bluetooth and surf the net and check email. Agree it is not too fast as it has been pointed out it is between 150 to 220 Kb/s. I would say it pretty good for email, websurfing has a little to be desire depending on the website you hit. I know they charge more as does Verizon if you get one of those PDA/PC cards that allow you to use their network, but I am using my phone.
I also have T-mobile plan with data and connect the phone to a computer and surf the web and check email. This is work phone and it is $19.95 for unlimited, and best part it works outside the USA unlike Cingular or Verizon. I was in China last year and was able to check email and Websites since China block some sites from within the country if you use loca WiFi connections.
Missing features
The thing I haven't heard about is voice dialing. After getting my last supposedly 'smart' phone that was missing this very basic feature I swore I would never get one without it again.
Why drop this feature when it must be a simple self contained chip by now? I don't want to be messing with a phone to dial frequently used numbers.
The thing I haven't heard about is voice dialing. After getting my last supposedly 'smart' phone that was missing this very basic feature I swore I would never get one without it again.
Why drop this feature when it must be a simple self contained chip by now? I don't want to be messing with a phone to dial frequently used numbers.
GSM+EDGE=legacy
That is legacy thinking.
Take a look at Nokias phones, say Nokia E70. It has wlan, quadband, voip (SIP), MMS, etc... And still the company is making money and phone operators are making money. You can even install skype on mobiles today.
Currently, 1 Mbps 3G connection flat-rate price is under 50 e/month (Finland). Other phone models makes video calls possible, and still companies are making money. Nokia is way ahead of apple when talking about connectivity, even my old phone (Nokia 6820) had GSM+EDGE and it was release 2004. GSM+EDGE = legacy technology.
Many companies are moving to IP-phone systems, so using phone with wlan+SIP = only option. And if iPhone comes to europe with those specs that it has now, it is not 5 years ahead, more like 5 years behind others.
Phone service providers have to change with the world. They have to offer GSM networks, Internet-connections (3G, ADSL..) and dropping old products, like landline phones. In the future, everything goes through Internet (SIP) and phone service provivers comes more like ISP.
- Joose
That is legacy thinking.
Take a look at Nokias phones, say Nokia E70. It has wlan, quadband, voip (SIP), MMS, etc... And still the company is making money and phone operators are making money. You can even install skype on mobiles today.
Currently, 1 Mbps 3G connection flat-rate price is under 50 e/month (Finland). Other phone models makes video calls possible, and still companies are making money. Nokia is way ahead of apple when talking about connectivity, even my old phone (Nokia 6820) had GSM+EDGE and it was release 2004. GSM+EDGE = legacy technology.
Many companies are moving to IP-phone systems, so using phone with wlan+SIP = only option. And if iPhone comes to europe with those specs that it has now, it is not 5 years ahead, more like 5 years behind others.
Phone service providers have to change with the world. They have to offer GSM networks, Internet-connections (3G, ADSL..) and dropping old products, like landline phones. In the future, everything goes through Internet (SIP) and phone service provivers comes more like ISP.
- Joose
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This is true, and I admit it knowing that I just signed a new two year verizon contact to get a treo 700p. Verizon's unlimited data plan is $50 a month (and this isn't v-cast or any of their advertised stuff); and they made Palm get rid of wifi. But where I live cingular and sprint blow, service wise, and I have to have a Palm to sync with my work (PC) apps.