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Hands-On Video with 'iPad Mini' Physical Mockup
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Yep, assuming there is an LTE version. If so, it probably replaces my iPad as the device I take everywhere. Size looks to be almost exactly what I want.
If you have built your iPad app to Apple's HIG specifications, then it should run and work perfectly fine on a 7.85" 1024x768 iPad Mini.
The only issue would be if you made some of your UI elements smaller than they should have been on the iPad.
A standard button on the iPad is larger than a standard button on the iPhone. When the iPad app is scaled down to 7.85" the standard buttons are the same size on both the iPad Mini and the iPhone.
Sort of like how a 40" 720p plasma tv has the same resolution as a Galaxy S3. The resolution is the same, so clearly the interface can be identical on both devices, and it will be perfectly alright. *facepalm*
The transition is from 9.7" to 7.85". That's a very small change.
Even better than that, at 7.85" and 1024x768 pixels, the pixel density will be 163ppi.
That's the same ppi as the pre-retina iPhone and iPod touch.
Because Apple chose to size the UI elements on the iPad the same way they do on the iPhone, a standard button on a full size iPad is larger than it is on an iPhone.
When you put an iPad app on a 163ppi display, a standard button will be the same size as a standard button on an iPhone.
An iPad app running on an iPad mini will be just as usable as an iPhone app running on an iPhone.
If they are goin to do iPad mini then they will do it at the iPad event. Why make some new event just for this. There is no rush for iPad mini.
What about christmas? If they don't release one now, people might get a Nexus 7 oder Fire HD instead.
I've said it before and i'll say it again,
I'd pay up to £300 for this (around $490)
If they could get it down to £200 to £230 (around $325-$375), I'd buy 2
I'd pay up to £300 for this (around $490)
If they could get it down to £200 to £230 (around $325-$375), I'd buy 2
Holy crap, you're right. At first he sounded British with a slight random foreign twang, then he segued into what sounded like a really well spoken American midwestern accent. He hops back and forth between the two, and occasionally throw in a bit of an Indian accent just to, I swear, throw everyone off. It's almost scary in a way.
i'm not so sure that this is real or not. look at the light reflect off the front of the iPad. Doesn't appear to be glass, but looks to be plastic. Why doesn't he run any apps on it?
That's why they are pushing the iPod line. The mini would over shadow everything. Plus they would need to get FCC approval like theydid when the first iPad came out because it's a new product. It wouldn't be out in time. If they haven't ramped up production they could never make the Christmas time frame.
Again there is no rush. Just look at how well the iPad is doing. People don't mind paying the price for the iPad.
Wish I could. Mom gifted me an iPad 2 which I like but I'd like a smaller one. Thing is it's engraved so she doesn't want me selling it (she's a bit paranoid, she put her email on it). It worked out in my benefit in some ways (she originally was going to give it to me as my bday present and I could sell it to afford the iphone 5 cause i told her that is what I really wanted and when she realized she didn't want me selling it she told me to keep it and she'd still help me with the iphone <- yes I'm spoiled, get over it).
So, I'll just keep my iPad 2 which is a good device, just a bit large and be happy with it. I really can't complain
. But I think it's going to be a great device and glad to see Apple changed their mind. If I get a better job I'll probably buy one (the iPad 2 is a great size for magazine and comics but I htink the mini iPad is good for books and games so I think there is room for both if I ever have that kind of money to spend).(and yes, I know the iphone has a data plan, I'm justifying that cause it's my phone
).Potential huge defect in iPad Mini
I find with the current iPad if my thumb is over the screen even a few millimeters it affects the multi-touch usability of the iPad as it registers the thumb overlap as a point of contact. I have found playing games that if you are in the middle of the action and re-grip the iPad where you are not aware your thumb just moved over the screen suddenly the control of the game doesn't work properly.
I am worried that the thinner bezel on the iPad Mini might be a huge usability issue if Apple has not addressed the impact of a stray touch encroaching over the edge of the screen unexpectedly.
Considering the iPad Mini is probably going to be targeted more like a game device rather then a productivity device, this usability defect could ruin the iPad Mini.
Unlike the iPhone where you "pinch" the device in a hand by holding the flat sides of the device, the iPad Mini is still large enough to require a grip where the thumb and fore-finger pinch the top and bottom of the device in many situations, such as gaming.
Perhaps Apple has addressed this in iOS 6 by having some kind of "slush" zone where errant stray touches around the edge of the screen are not formally registered, or perhaps beefed up the multi-touch logic to understand "purposeful" touch instead of errant touch, but given Apple's track record with usability I doubt they even consider this an issue and simply opted for the the aesthetics of the iPad Mini design over the usability of it. Form over function has always been Apple's modus operandi.
I'll wait for the verdict when the device is released, but this is a usability issue with the current iPad just that the bezel is thick enough that it does not affect most people. Just try using the iPad with your thumb partially on the edge of the screen and then imagine if the bezel was thinner then your thumb.
I find with the current iPad if my thumb is over the screen even a few millimeters it affects the multi-touch usability of the iPad as it registers the thumb overlap as a point of contact. I have found playing games that if you are in the middle of the action and re-grip the iPad where you are not aware your thumb just moved over the screen suddenly the control of the game doesn't work properly.
I am worried that the thinner bezel on the iPad Mini might be a huge usability issue if Apple has not addressed the impact of a stray touch encroaching over the edge of the screen unexpectedly.
Considering the iPad Mini is probably going to be targeted more like a game device rather then a productivity device, this usability defect could ruin the iPad Mini.
Unlike the iPhone where you "pinch" the device in a hand by holding the flat sides of the device, the iPad Mini is still large enough to require a grip where the thumb and fore-finger pinch the top and bottom of the device in many situations, such as gaming.
Perhaps Apple has addressed this in iOS 6 by having some kind of "slush" zone where errant stray touches around the edge of the screen are not formally registered, or perhaps beefed up the multi-touch logic to understand "purposeful" touch instead of errant touch, but given Apple's track record with usability I doubt they even consider this an issue and simply opted for the the aesthetics of the iPad Mini design over the usability of it. Form over function has always been Apple's modus operandi.
I'll wait for the verdict when the device is released, but this is a usability issue with the current iPad just that the bezel is thick enough that it does not affect most people. Just try using the iPad with your thumb partially on the edge of the screen and then imagine if the bezel was thinner then your thumb.
That's what the speaker grill looks like on the first gen iPad:
Wow is that ugly. Glad they changed that on the new iPad.
For those still confused about how normal iPad apps will work on the iPad mini, here is what an iPhone app and iPad app look like when overlayed pixel for pixel:
At the same pixel density, iPad UI elements are the same size as iPhone UI elements. The original iPad had a lower pixel density than the non-retina iPhone, so UI elements were larger. This relative difference continued over to the retina resolutions.
An iPad Mini with a 163ppi display (or even retina 326ppi in the future) will display iPad apps with UI elements exactly the same physical real world size as UI elements on an iPhone.
At the same pixel density, iPad UI elements are the same size as iPhone UI elements. The original iPad had a lower pixel density than the non-retina iPhone, so UI elements were larger. This relative difference continued over to the retina resolutions.
An iPad Mini with a 163ppi display (or even retina 326ppi in the future) will display iPad apps with UI elements exactly the same physical real world size as UI elements on an iPhone.
Yes, but the Dell laptop is not meant to be held in your hands like an iPad. Sure you can lay your iPad on the table or prop it up on your knees when laying down or even buy a stand for it, but it's meant to be held in your hands and as a handheld device, it's heavy. It's bigger than all the competition, which is not a problem for some people, but other people, like myself, would rather something smaller and lighter.
iPad 2 - 601 g
iPad 3 - 652 g
Nexus 7 - 340 g
Kindle Fire HD - 394± g (13.9 oz)
Kindle Fire HD 8.8" - 567± g (20 oz)
Galaxy Tab - 565 g