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DO NOT UPDATE YOUR NEW MACBOOK PRO!!!!
I just received my new 16” m1 Max (with Monterey preinstalled) and it completely bricked my new macbook. ??‍♂️

All i get it a never ending loop of it trying to load.

Update: keyboard commands don’t work such as command + R and even connected a second macbook with recovery software. Still unresponsive. Even apple support is lost.

 
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Absolutely in love with my 14 inch. It's pretty much perfect - and easily replaces both my M1 MBP and M1 iPad Pro as it combines all my favourite features from both.

This is it Apple. Together with the 13 Pro, this Macbook rounds this year off as the best year for Apple releases ever for me.
 
Congratulations. That was lucky.

I wouldn't cancel the original order until you have the store one in hand. You can always get the dreaded "we're sorry" message that they couldn't actually get that config in store by tomorrow. I wouldn't worry too much about that scenario but still, nothing wrong with waiting a day to see. Once in hand, cancel the original and live happily ever after.
You are right, and I have no intention of cancelling until I get home with it. Maybe a friend at work will even be interested..
 
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2015 15" guy here too. Wonder how the 14" compares. I found this comparison with the 16" only.

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Get an Air then.
This Notch 'failure' enables us a 1080p webcam + additional screen space left and right (+74px). Rather than having a useless bezel or nose-cam. Use a black menu bar and it will never bother you again.

I guess I am a weird guy but I care more about what I have to see than what others have to see. I would have much prefer them looking at my nose than me looking at the notch.

Yes it's extra space but extra space that is not very useful since it will be there for the menu which disappear anyway and it does make the laptop needing to be bigger to accommodate for that useless extra screen space.
 
I guess I am a weird guy but I care more about what I have to see than what others have to see. I would have much prefer them looking at my nose than me looking at the notch.

Yes it's extra space but extra space that is not very useful since it will be there for the menu which disappear anyway and it does make the laptop bigger to accommodate that useless extra screen space.
If the menu is moved up then the space the menu once took up if free so it is useful
 
F Keys... from the 1970s and Windows. Meh.

They could have at least come up with something different - OLED or E-INK keys?

Eh, for what?

I like tech. I like gadgets. However, they need to actually serve a purpose beyond gee-whiz. I liked the TouchBar but it's usefulness never went beyond that and in some cases it was actually harder to use than media keys.

Do you really want to add an expensive row of keys that require their own sub processor, use more power, and raise repair costs so you can... have changing OLED in a place where virtually no one changes the default?

Again, I liked the TouchBar okay, but... that was a ridiculous amount of tech that required a ridiculous amount of developer buy-in for, "Oh, neat." Aside from a minority on this forum, I have never even heard of someone talking about how the TouchBar was a serious part of their workflow. I remember the original keynote having a DJ showing ways to use it but... yeah, it just never really went anywhere.

It feels like Apple was just trying to do something different for the sake of different and hoping developers and users would find a real use for it. In 4+ years, that simply never really materialized for a vast number of users. What's worse is that so many of the features were not really Pro features. I think the TouchBar would have actually been better received on Airs where being an emoji keyboard probably would have been better received.

I mean, you can make this same argument about the arrow keys (and Apple rather famously removed them on some early Macs) but the fact as, we use them.
 
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DO NOT UPDATE YOUR NEW MACBOOK PRO!!!!
I just received my new 16” m1 Max (with Monterey preinstalled) and it completely bricked my new macbook. ??‍♂️

All i get it a never ending loop of it trying to load.

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Do a web recovery. I’m sure there is some process to intervene and pull a fresh version down from the web. If not, you also may have a dud and this just killed it right off the bat.
 
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I would like to know if the SSD and RAM are both soldered. Likely the RAM is but what about the SSD, anyone know?

I HATE the throwback look, but love the larger display, and could care less about the notch. Regardless I've been waiting 5+ years for this so.. ?‍♂️ and my Early 2013 is really not holding up to heavier creative demands these days. Could just be the SSD being 80% consumed or the 8GB of DDR3, but this 2013 used to seem much snappier and reliable under increased demands.
 
I mentioned this in another thread and no one commented, but does it seem like the 14” Pro mics are kinda muffled? I noticed it in other reviews too.
 
I would like to see a direct size comparison of the 15inch retina to the 14inch MBP. I can imagine a lot of people are considering replacing their 15" with a 14" model instead of going for a 16". Does anybody have a link to such a comparison?
I thought about that. But the problem is that they're actually 14.2", 15.4", and 16.2". So to go down in size is to go down 1.2", and to go up is 0.8". I'm going up.

Very annoying to not be able to get the base M1 Pro 8/14 on the 16", which would have made the base model price difference only $200, instead of the $500 that it is. Even better would be a 16" M1 MBP or MBA. I'd guess a 16" M1 MBP 16/512 would be only $2000, or a 16" M1 MBA 16/512 $1650 (entry 8/256 spec $1250), or somewhere around there. Instead, we have to pay $2500 for a high power chip we don't need, and will never use the power of, just to get a 16" screen. They'd sell a lot of either, I'd say.
 
Just curious, can you set the menu to be permanently black, with white writing, for all apps and windows by default (but blacking out entirely for say, watching movies, of course)?
 
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2015 15" guy here too. Wonder how the 14" compares. I found this comparison with the 16" only.

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Get an Air then.
This Notch 'failure' enables us a 1080p webcam + additional screen space left and right (+74px). Rather than having a useless bezel or nose-cam. Use a black menu bar and it will never bother you again.
Can you set the menu bar black by default for all apps?
 
If the menu is moved up then the space the menu once took up if free so it is useful
I think what is being pointed out is that, in full screen mode the menu disappears completely anyway. That being said the notch is not that big a deal to me. I am just relieved to FINALLY see an upgraded 1080P FaceTime camera. Taking a ridiculous amount of time to upgrade that was more than annoying.
 
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I would like to see a direct size comparison of the 15inch retina to the 14inch MBP. I can imagine a lot of people are considering replacing their 15" with a 14" model instead of going for a 16". Does anybody have a link to such a comparison?
Stopped lurking just to post this. I downsized from 15" and the smaller screen will definitely take some getting used to, but I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have wanted anything heavier. In fact, the 15" is starting to seem bulky to me.

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I just want to know more about the ghosting issues on the panels. Is it isolate? is it everyone? is it only the 16"? Is it software or hardware?
 
Do a web recovery. I’m sure there is some process to intervene and pull a fresh version down from the web. If not, you also may have a dud and this just killed it right off the bat.
It’s completely unresponsive. It doesn’t recogbise any keyboard inputs such as command + R. Tried to to recover by connecting another macbook but also unresponsive. ?
 
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Go into recovery mode and restore?
Tried everything. Completely unresponsive to any keyboard commands such as command + R. Even tried connecting another macbook with recovery software. Still unresponsive. Even apple support is lost.
 
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I would like to see a direct size comparison of the 15inch retina to the 14inch MBP. I can imagine a lot of people are considering replacing their 15" with a 14" model instead of going for a 16". Does anybody have a link to such a comparison?
Exactly what I did. 13 was always too small and 15 always felt a bit clunky to rest on your lap. 14 is the sweet spot for me.
 
Using this macbook ever since I got it today and so far my only design related complaint is that the magsafe cable isn’t colour matched to the space grey and it’s just.. why apple? It looks like I’m using a spare/replacement cable from day one. Just kinda a silly complaint when the m1 iMacs have colour matched power cables.

Nevertheless, a very minor complaint
 
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