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Hands-On With Apple's New 16-Inch MacBook Pro
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I do, and every developer does (Build, Run, Stop Over, Step Into, Step Out, Go To Definition). And PgUp, PgDn, Home, End too. Cmd + shortcuts are significantly slower to type. But I always use an external keyboard for serious work.
Straight up, if you’re complaining about this computer and don’t think it’s amazing, nitpicking over little things, then you’re not a professional. Period. This computer is for professionals and this computer helps me and the like make money. It’s a tool to create and and get work done. There’s nothing about this computer that shouldn’t be getting work done for 99.9 percent of us. If you can’t make this machine work for you, then you’re an idiot.
Read the posts before you respond to them. An SD card reader means you can plug the card directly into the computer. It’s simple and clean. No annoying dangly crap. This is great for portability.
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Sounds like you’re not a professional photographer, so you probably shouldn’t be giving an opinion on the matter. I’m certainly not in the minority. Most people want the SD card reader back. It’s nice to have it. You can’t argue that it’s better not to have it. It’s just not true.
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What happens when the SSD gets damaged how much does it cost to replace? What if you purchased the MBP with only 16-32GB of ram and you want to update to 64GB??
I ordered my 2013 one with 8GB RAM. Biggest mistake, 2 years later it was a $3000 brick. Completely unusable for anything but browsing. And I fear 16GB today is the same as 8GB was back then. It depends what you're doing, but if you're running more than one VM, I fear it's not going to cut it. Maybe Linux in a VM, but not Windows 10 or Server 2019 for sure. Windows itself needs 16GB of RAM, if your host machine has that much it won't be pretty.
Why is nobody reading the posts before responding to them?
An SD card that plugs into the computer is clean and simple. No dangly nonsense.
I don't need to read it again, you made no mention of an SD card reader. Would also help if you stopped editing your posts after people reply.
Yes I did. This is a conversation thread. That was the very first point I made about dongles.
You had read the reply to a reply, but not the original post. So your entire view of the conversation is skewed if you’re only reading and reacting to an out-of-context reply.
I’ve taken many 2016+ MacBook Pros on many airplanes, never required ”dangly crap”.
Function keys are available and can be “locked” to be available at all times, same with the traditional Mac-specific keys. i.e. brightness/volume.
Do you also complain that the seat in your car feels different than the one at your kitchen table?
Dude I'm not even a part of this conversation and you are being annoying as hell.
Dongles don't "negate portability". It’s just not true. Goodness.
Man, you people have no vision. And that’s an absurd analogy.
A tool (in this case, the Touch Bar) is utterly useless if it causes disparity among workflows. For example, if I’m a Photoshop user, the Touch Bar has some cool controls that allow me to manipulate photos. But if I’m working from a desktop, those controls aren’t available. So I go back to using the controls within the GUI when in a desktop. The problem is, using different methods on desktop vs. laptop is very, very dumb. It destroys muscle memory and all around efficiency. So most people result to just using the GUI on the laptop so as to not create inefficiency. In other words, the Touch Bar is a pretty cool concept, but it ultimately becomes useless and just gets in the way. If Apple would make it available in desktop, that could fix the disparity. But Apple isn’t doing that. So the best thing is to just get rid of the Touch Bar altogether.
That is why you have AppleCare So you do not worry about it. And what happens when you run out of storage on a iPhone oh you buy a new iPhone and you sell the old one.
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Well here is the answer for you, work with it or stop buying Apple (assuming you are in the first place), things like SD card readers are not coming back.
I've so far heard three different reviewers (including Dan) using the built-in mic for their reviews, and I'm underwhelmed. Like most electret systems, it picks up a lot of ambient room noise and slapback. There's also some noticeable distortion. The frequency response seems a bit on the warm side, which suits podcasts. But you'd still get way better vocal audio with an external mic, whether a desktop or lavalier.
Use the function keys on MacBook Pro with Touch Bar - Apple Support
Press and hold the Fn (Function) key to see F1 through F12 in your Touch Bar.
You can make it so that the function keys are permanently displayed in whatever app you need.
And it's 2019, deal with the dongles already. You're a professional photographer, do you complain about having to lug around multiple lenses, extra SD cards, batteries, etc.?
You may need an SD card reader, others need a headphone jack, some need HDMI, VGA, DVI, USB, Thunderbolt, etc. etc. etc. If Apple pleased every "pro" with their ULTRA LIGHT AND PORTABLE top of the line computer, the thing would weigh about 20 lbs.
Or go buy a PC and stop complaining here.
A built in mic is best for FaceTime communications not for pristine audio recording use a lavalier or studio mic, I agree.
But they do though. Portability is about having something that's clean, simple, and doesn't require additional components in order for it to function.
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That's what's so annoying though. Why? Why are they not coming back? The SD card is the most modern and common storage medium for image acquisition. Pro photographers aren't taking pictures with their iPhones and AirDropping them to their Macs. So if Apple's going to slap a "Pro" moniker on their products, then they ought to actually make them tailored for real pros, not just hipster iPhone photographers.
This is absolutely correct. Let the superfans test it. Then when the few missing items are added in the refresh, a 4-6 year commitment can be made. Wifi6 is my personal deal breaker. My entire array of computers at home (desktops) are running 100Mb to 240Mb a second over wifi. With occasional hits to 700Mb. I don’t want to give that up. I love the option of portability and massive wireless speeds for big data. I also have gigabit internet hitting an easy 800Mb to 980Mb over wifi!
Buying a good 27”+ 2K/4K monitor might be a better experience than a 16” MBP. I’ve had my 13” MBP for 5 years connected to a 27” monitor (sometimes 2) along with an Apple keyboard and trackpad, and it’s easy to quickly carry my laptop if I require it, which is mostly daily.
I think it's great. I already ordered one. I'm looking forward to the larger screen having loved my multiple 17" PowerBook's and MacBook Pro's over the years.
Oh my god the MacBook Pro old 17in is so big, I do not like it, has every thing because it is big. Oh the 16in MacBook Pro does not have a ton of different ports but it run on batteries for 11 hours not 3. You have to make compromises to make a system for a majority of what users want.
Is it really?
LPDDR4/WiFi 6 are pretty meh when you consider that after next summers refresh, the refresh after that which is likely to come within 6-12 months is potentially a lot bigger: 10nm, new screen options (miniled/OLED/10bit HDR/4K+/120hz?), FaceID etc
Something better is always around the corner but what you’ll be getting is summer is really not items which are worth waiting for for a long term commitment, it is not often so little is around the corner - this is a golden purchase opportunity imo.