I share your opinion.I just don't care about emojis and all kinds of bobbles and jingles on my messages. Has everyone become a little girl all of a sudden?
It's disgusting to see Apple pander to the juvenile market.
I share your opinion.I just don't care about emojis and all kinds of bobbles and jingles on my messages. Has everyone become a little girl all of a sudden?
Hold your horses. I'm sure there will be changes and possibly talks of an Android app when new hardware is released in the Fall.All these new changes will work only when you using iMessage and won’t apply to standard SMS messages, right ?
If so, all these changes are pointless - as long as other OS platforms (mainly Android) won’t have this app it will never compete against the big players in the market, and will stay a small niche for Apple users (same like FaceTime).
My earliest memories of the web involve 14.4k modems, gopher sites, and no search engines. But I have some vague memories of people using Usenet with modems measured in baud. The first computer I ever used was my grandpa's 386 with a 500MB HDD and a few MB RAM on Windows 3.1. I would use MS Paint all day and my grandpa would chastise me for opening too many windows and crashing the OS. I think he told me when he first bought it, it had an 80MB HDD or something, and maybe 640KB RAM? I think he still has it. My first computer was a 75MHz Intel Pentium from Packard Bell with 32MB RAM, 14.4K modem, 1MB video card (maybe Matrox or Cirrus Logic?), 4X CD-ROM (fancy), and of course 3.5" floppy running on Win95. I remember upgrading it to 33.6K modem, my grandpa's old accelerated 8MB PCI card (big upgrade from that ISA piece of crap) that was in his Pentium II machine, I think 80MB RAM (32+32+16 because I think it had three slots) and a 24X CD-ROM. And now my iPhone 6s is faster than the first MacBook Pro I bought in 2008. What a time to be alive!What is this "web" and "hypertext" of which you speak? Why, in my day, we had Usenet news, and computers talked to each other over phone lines using UUCP, and if you wanted cat pictures in your messages you drew them with ASCII art. This "web" thing is just a fad that'll never catch on! ;-)
My earliest memories of the web involve 14.4k modems, gopher sites, and no search engines. But I have some vague memories of people using Usenet with modems measured in baud. The first computer I ever used was my grandpa's 386 with a 500MB HDD and a few MB RAM on Windows 3.1. I would use MS Paint all day and my grandpa would chastise me for opening too many windows and crashing the OS. I think he told me when he first bought it, it had an 80MB HDD or something, and maybe 640KB RAM? I think he still has it. My first computer was a 75MHz Intel Pentium from Packard Bell with 32MB RAM, 14.4K modem, 1MB video card (maybe Matrox or Cirrus Logic?), 4X CD-ROM (fancy), and of course 3.5" floppy running on Win95. I remember upgrading it to 33.6K modem, my grandpa's old accelerated 8MB PCI card (big upgrade from that ISA piece of crap) that was in his Pentium II machine, I think 80MB RAM (32+32+16 because I think it had three slots) and a 24X CD-ROM. And now my iPhone 6s is faster than the first MacBook Pro I bought in 2008. What a time to be alive!
Well, maybe relatively, but I'm buying my second house in a few weeks, having my second kid a few weeks after that, and started my freelance design company 11 years ago now, lol. Kids these days will talk about how they had an iPad as their first computer. Yesterday my daughter was yelling into her toy phone at the Apple TV "Play music! Show pictures of kangaroos!" Crazy how much can change in a generation. Her kids will probably be able to conjure up whatever their heart desires through pure thought.14.4K modems, 500MB HDD, you are but just a child
300 Baud acoustic coupler, BBS, 5MB, 5.25" double height HDD...
As opposed to pandering to you?I share your opinion.
It's disgusting to see Apple pander to the juvenile market.
By "majority", do you mean yourself and a few other more vocal critics here in this thread?Apple is trolling its customers.
Definetly not what the majority of us want or need.
Well, maybe relatively, but I'm buying my second house in a few weeks, having my second kid a few weeks after that, and started my freelance design company 11 years ago now, lol. Kids these days will talk about how they had an iPad as their first computer. Yesterday my daughter was yelling into her toy phone at the Apple TV "Play music! Show pictures of kangaroos!" Crazy how much can change in a generation. Her kids will probably be able to conjure up whatever their heart desires through pure thought.
Hah, my kid doesn't get to use electronics much, but she sees us use them, and I often use my iPad to show her things. She likes to look at photos of different animals, and sometimes I'll show her educational videos on YouTube or let her draw. But yeah, she learned the words iPad and Apple pretty early. She was fascinated with my watch before I even got an Apple Watch, and now she's always swiping at it while I'm not paying attention. I'm worried she's going to set off an S.O.S. in watchOS 3! The other day when we were in the other room, she opened the camera app from the lock screen on my wife's iPhone and snapped a photo of her feet. When we came back in she proudly proclaimed "Mommy I made picture of my feet with your iPhone!" Oh kids…I can't even imagine what iMessages will look like when she's a teen, if it's even still a thing.I have a 2 year old niece. First words spoken were mommy, daddy, ipad and selfie.
Why aren't you -en-mass complaining to your providers? In my country the problem is nonexistent and a scammy stuff gets huge media coverage.
Personally, this was a brilliant move on Apple's part. The iMessage app is probably the most used feature on the iPhone all alone.
I can say with a certainty that in my circles (Los Angeles, entertainment industry, family, friends etc) the opening up of the messages app will be a huge "sticky" feature that will further addict users to their iPhones.
Was a bit dumbfounded yesterday reading some comments around the web like "how un-apple the changes to iMessage were" or the frequent "steve jobs is rolling over in this..." or "steve jobs would never have...."
BS!
Messaging IS the future. Clearly those bashing the changes have no clue how intensely important this one phone feature is across EVERY SINGLE DEMOGRAPHIC globally. Bewildered why anyone would underestimate the importance of better effects, emoji's, interactivity, input of video, photos, music etc into iMessage, then setting up it being offered on Android etc.
The second most important feature on an iPhone is.....
The Camera. Clearly too when iPhone 7 is released we will see that improve significantly. Those already bashing the "underwhelmed sense from no physical changes" to iPhone 7 is already a "pre disappointment" I think when all is said and done will see significant changes to the camera, to touch ID (setting up for it's complete removal as button in 2017), our audio experiences and headphones etc.
Just the headphones alone for a guy like me that NEVER has been able to use the earbuds will be a HUGE new feature if in fact they upgrade them to wireless and hopefully a better more universal fit.
The reason is that you are living in the same marketing L.A. bubble as the guys that "designed" this new messages. This new messages app will cause baby boomers and others to deflect from using the app and they own the same amount of smartphones as the millennials. There is a need for standardization if you want to hit all markets, this new messages app it isn't. Even facebook understands this better than the new designers at apple.
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There is a big reason whatsapp is the #1 messages app globally and its not because of stickers and special effects.
It is not optional for the recipient, presently. You do not need to send them yourself, but you will see all of these effects.
But... but... stickers and bombastic backgrounds are the FUTURE! Haven’t you heard?
It's going lots of places. It may not go where you live, but as you said, whatsapp is omnipresent there. So I'm not worried at all about you.
True, it's momentum and marketshare. Don't let survivors bias cloud your mind; resistance to change keeps a lot of people in their current behaviour (using whatsapp) imho it's the main reason whatsapp is so sow to adapt new features: they don't want to upset their demographic. everyone insisting on only using whatsapp in my environment is above 50...
Now, what is the reason Snappchat is so popular in spite of that? And why is the owner of facebook pouring resources in a seperate app, wich does include all of this bloat?
My first computer was Apple II serial# 893, with cassette tapes for saving and loading programs ;-) When my dad bought it, having a computer at home wasn't just unusual, most people had no idea it was possible. I've seen the personal computer revolution, the rise of Usenet news (my best friend was the third woman on Usenet), the birth of the Internet, laptops freeing users from desks, and the smartphone revolution. And now I'm sitting here watching WWDC session videos streaming to my Apple TV (explaining HomeKit, which lets me talk to the lights in my living room from my watch - from anywhere in the world). It's an amazing time to be alive.Kids these days will talk about how they had an iPad as their first computer. Yesterday my daughter was yelling into her toy phone at the Apple TV "Play music! Show pictures of kangaroos!" Crazy how much can change in a generation.
There are rumors of Apple making it cross-platform. Though I suspect WeChat is half government-imposed and isn't going anywhere.But the Chinese market will never use iMessage unless it's Android friendly!!!! Everyone uses "WeChat" and "Line" here, never once have I been iMessaged.
SMS and MMS aren't going to have new features. They're the "lowest common denominator" in terms of compatibility and don't even support read receipts AFAIK. Apple has no place messing with the standard anyway.OMG. How about fixing the most basic stuff first? Standard sms receipt is still not working (unless you manually type a specific string in front of every sms. Moreover, the string differs according to the carrier network). Even the most basic archaic phones can do this properly!
Regarding these new rich messages: If you are not connected to the internet, a message is sent as a sms (or mms in case of an image). What happens now? If I am not mistaken mms does not support this (quite useless) "enhancements"...
It's good probably that in reality that's not actually the case then, right?I share your opinion.
It's disgusting to see Apple pander to the juvenile market.
Good luck.I've been an Apple user for 20 years, and I now have finally lost hope. I've put my iPhone for sale, and have no intention of buying a new one any time soon. This is without a doubt the ugliest piece of software Apple has ever made. What a shame.. I could write a thesis but I won't bother, that's how disappointed I am.
I never thought Apple, the epitome of elegance and advanced technology, would end up like this. Glitter photos and emoji obsession.. how far you have fallen Apple. This is a sombre week indeed.
Faerwell. Enjoy sending love hearts and disco messages to each other, a new breed of customer clearly populates the Apple fanbase now, my time has passed.
And the previous few generations had "TV" and the like in their early vocabulary. Just like some previous ones had "car" or "airplane".I have a 2 year old niece. First words spoken were mommy, daddy, ipad and selfie.
So in relation to using iMessages a lot for "work/peer circle (engineers)", what is the issue there that would be encountered with these optional things being present? Are you saying that suddenly that circle of people will be using these things to annoy others or anything like that?Nice response however you are looking at this from a "your" perspective. Use iMessages a lot. For my work/peer circle (engineers) this is one feature hopefully we can turn off. Like iMessages. This though needs two options: I want the glitz vs. I don't want the glitz. I can see most of my kids going for glitz - if they used iPhones. They don't.
Improvement is a good thing. So is choice. Really really hope this has an off switch.
Messaging is the future? No. It is the most recent trend. What it looks like in a few years? It won't be this.
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That "older" grip is where most of the $$$ currently comes from.
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So if you set iMessages to off, does all this glitz go away?
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iMessage will remain in the iOS world unless it comes to Android also. After watching the video a couple of times I really don't see this taking off long term in its' current format. Unless everyone is has access to the same "functions" why would they leave the current "fun" app they are using?
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Because his market is not OS centric. Doesn't matter the OS, FB has it covered. This new iMessage, not so much.
So, same like FaceTime, clearly none of this is pointless given that plenty of people use FaceTime (and iMessage).All these new changes will work only when you using iMessage and won’t apply to standard SMS messages, right ?
If so, all these changes are pointless - as long as other OS platforms (mainly Android) won’t have this app it will never compete against the big players in the market, and will stay a small niche for Apple users (same like FaceTime).
I'm in the iOS world. I don't run any messaging apps other than iMessage. If you want to send me messages, you have to use iMessage, or SMS. Or email. (Or Facebook messages, but I'll respond to them when connect to Facebook on my laptop. I'm not saying you have to leave your "fun" app if it works for you. You just can't send me messages with it.iMessage will remain in the iOS world unless it comes to Android also. After watching the video a couple of times I really don't see this taking off long term in its' current format. Unless everyone is has access to the same "functions" why would they leave the current "fun" app they are using?
You already have complete control over what you receive - ask people to not send you glitter-filled messages if you don't want such. If they persist, simply go punch them in the face repeatedly and then block their #. You won't have to worry about them sending you glitter-filled messages any more. This is a people problem, not a technological problem. Just as whether profanity is off-limits in a given conversation is governed by an implied social contract, so to with these new features.I am not opposed to any of the new stuff as an option, but I want the option to turn it off and keep Messages how it is now. That means I want to have some control over what I receive, not just what I choose to send.
Yes. A small niche where they only handle 200,000 messages a second (but then you probably do more than that with the server running in your coat closet at home, right?). Apple has a billion active devices out in the world. I think a lot of folks don't really get that Apple IS one of the big players in the market.... as long as other OS platforms (mainly Android) won’t have this app it will never compete against the big players in the market, and will stay a small niche for Apple users (same like FaceTime).
pretty soon we will be filled w stickers and all movies will be of the same caliber as WarCraft....It's aimed at the Chinese market, which enjoys it especially.
try "poop"? maybe that brings it out?Predictive emoji doesn't work for "poo" (). Why is that?
I just don't care about emojis and all kinds of bobbles and jingles on my messages. Has everyone become a little girl all of a sudden?