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Am I the only person who thinks Apple spent the better part of the year working on a half-backed, overpriced, lame looking headphones while abandoning the iMac?

You are probably not alone, but that doesn't necessarily make you right.
 
This update is free, you don't have to pay for anything.

If you are on iPhone. iPod Touch users will have a one time upgrade fee of $10.

Just had a flashback. Sorry.
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Am I the only person who thinks Apple spent the better part of the year working on a half-backed, overpriced, lame looking headphones while abandoning the iMac?

If you have been on MR at all in the past year you know you aren't alone about Apple abandoning the Mac. Just look at the comments on every single article posted about anything. It'll come up.
 
Very astute observation. How did you arrive at such logic? It's almost as if the Watch app is useless if you don't own an Apple Watch. Unbelievable!

I pretty much get what he is saying. Apple has come out with a feature for a product that isn't even available right now. (Out of stock) So it is kind of useless for those of us with no airpods right now.

By the way, my wired airpods that came with the phone are holding strong! Haven't lost them yet!
 
I would prefer to pay as Microsoft gives me an option to downgrade and there is no planned obsolescence crap built into the products. There is nothing free in this world. The price of iOS upgrades is the atrocious device slowdown every year which leads you into buying the next iPhone. So indirectly you are paying for it one way or another
When you are speaking about slowdowns, you are only speaking for yourself. You surely aren't speaking for me. And the entire "planned obsolescence" meme, is just that. :)


There arent any night shift alternatives on Windows
I was altering the tonal qualities of my monitors long before night shift. It was O/S independent.

Further proof of Apple's monopoly with the app store on iOS.
Good luck on that suit going anywhere.

Don't forget the emojis and watch bands. The funny thing about here airpods is that despite being an iPhone accessory its going to generate more revenue than the Apple Watch being on the market for less than a year.Shows how much of a flop Tim's product was
Apple says it's AW is a success, and in this case I'm inclined to agree and state that this is just more hyperbole from one or two anonymous internet posters who don't know apples internal financials.

The current CEO has shown a lot of foresight in releasing products that propelled Apple into the stratosphere. The prior CEO would have been stuck on a 4 inch phone. If watch bands and emojis sell phones and computers and watches, then go for it. Apple is a lifestyle company and they give their customer base the products they want.
 
Yes, I'm sure it took a lot of manpower to develop this feature. In actuality, it probably took the lowest man on the totem poll about 45 minutes.
If u believe that then can u tell me how this is a .X updates largest feature? What are the big guys at apple doing this month? Rolling their thumbs?

Just trying to understand your logic x
 
Will the Airpod buzz if any iDevice user is nearby, not just the owner? That will dramatically increase the likelihood of finding your lost device just like The Tracker.

I don't have a pair of AirPods to experiment with, but it doesn't sound like it. It would be nice if they implemented a "Tile" like feature that IF and only IF you mark them as lost, any nearby Apple device within Bluetooth range would report the location (this would be good for WiFi only iPads as well).
 
Wait, isn't this feature assuming that both AirPods are together? What if they're not? I don't see any indication that it can tell you the last place each AirPod was when it was connected to your device. Ideally, if someone were to lose the left AirPod, let's say, it would show you where that AirPod was last connected to your device.
It is clearly mentioned in the article, and the video, that it only works when they are NOT in the case. And yes you can mute the left or right until you find both.
 
It is clearly mentioned in the article, and the video, that it only works when they are NOT in the case. And yes you can mute the left or right until you find both.

Does it show me the location that each AirPod was last connected to my device? I don't think so. That was my point. If I lose one of them at a party or leave one sitting on my desk at the office, it would be nice if the app would show me where that AirPod was last connected to my device.

Neither the article nor the video is clear about how the feature works (except to say, as you pointed out, that it doesn't work if the AirPods are in the case and the case is lost); but it seems clear from the screenshots that there is only one entry for the AirPods in the Find my iPhone app. That seems to indicate that there is no way for the app to show you on a map the last place that each AirPod was connected to your device.
 
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It's not free. I had to buy an iPhone, which Apple reports as revenue over a 2 year period. From what I can tell that means I put the money into a non-intrest bearing account that can not be refunded in order to make payments for the device over a 24 month period. It a tax thing they started doing years ago to allow them to add features. Remember the MacBooks and iMacs that had the hardware for the then new 802.11n WIFI spec, but they charged $1.99 to get because "it wasn't a feature that was there"?* Or how about their explination for why the iPod touch user had to pay $19.99 to upgrade the OS for the first few years?** So, from the way they play the game, I paid for it. Which means they used their power in the marked to stifle competition and make more money.

*https://www.cnet.com/news/apples-802-11n-accounting-conundrum/

**http://www.macworld.com/article/1131991/ipodtouch.html

OMG or here we go again. As you stated you PAID for it, i.e. in the past.
Anything you have gotten since they released Mac OS X for FREE and iOS which came with iOS devices etc. has been FREE, as in no money was exchanged or paid.

That is the consumer side.

Now, from a business standpoint there is of course a certain overhead percentage which Apple applies to each product which covers the development and updating costs, labor, testing etc. Take to extremes , we even pay for their office supplies, rent, research and anything they do.

I cannot follow all your twists and turns and what Apple reports as revenue doesn't affect you or me.
As for interest: If one takes $ 800 for an iPhone and spreads that over 24 months, that's $ 33.33 per month. If one could even get interest at 3% that'd be about $ 1 per month , so $ 24.00.
Put in your own number depending on what model you bought.

They have so far given us way more than $ 24 in updates and new features.

All a little convoluted and conspiracy driven. Maybe you should stay away from Apple products. Seems less stressful.
 
Don't know why people are raving about this feature. If your AirPods are required to be close to your iPhone, and not even charging in the case as you are most likely to do when they are not on your ears, then this is just "Find My Phone, and BTW hopefully whatever else I may have left at that Starbucks table".

I mean you could just as easily claim this is "Find my Backpack or Purse or Wallet or Car Keys" because most likely you may have left other things beside your phone if all you are doing is finding where your phone is.

Also more people are likely to lose an AirPod at home so if all you see is a map of your city with a pin over your house and you are trying to find them in your house I don't see any real benefit of this feature. I guess turn on the music and blast the volume and hopefully the battery lasts long enough for you to hunt them down by tracking the tinny muffled sound coming from under your sofa cushions.

I don't know why people today are so easily dazzled by stuff like this when a few seconds of common sense rationality sees this as a vapid non-feature. I guess any form of innovation from Apple is desperately wanted, even if its completely useless except in one perfect scenario where all the conditions line up for you to find the phone with your AirPods next to them, out of the case, and nobody bothered to swipe them.
 
This only works if you're (for example) home and left your Airpods at work, right? If I'm home and know the Airpods are somewhere in my house, this thing will not be able to actually locate them - that would be actually useful, but we're not there yet.
 
Does it show me the location that each AirPod was last connected to my device? I don't think so. That was my point. If I lose one of them at a party or leave one sitting on my desk at the office, it would be nice if the app would show me where that AirPod was last connected to my device.

Neither the article nor the video is clear about how the feature works (except to say, as you pointed out, that it doesn't work if the AirPods are in the case and the case is lost); but it seems clear from the screenshots that there is only one entry for the AirPods in the Find my iPhone app. That seems to indicate that there is no way for the app to show you on a map the last place that each AirPod was connected to your device.
Not sure exactly but I found this in the article.

"Find My AirPods relies on the AirPods connection to an iPhone or another iOS device because the AirPods themselves don't have any cellular connectivity built in. The feature keeps track of the last known location where the AirPods were connected to an iOS device overBluetooth, so if one is misplaced, there's a general location of where it might have last been seen.

That location is displayed on a map in the "Find My iPhone" app, much like any other Mac or iOS device. There's also an option to cause the AirPods to play a sound, which is super handy for finding an AirPod that's fallen between the couch cushions or has been buried in a backpack."

It seems to imply that it would work for each individual AirPod.
 
I pretty much get what he is saying. Apple has come out with a feature for a product that isn't even available right now. (Out of stock) So it is kind of useless for those of us with no airpods right now.

By the way, my wired airpods that came with the phone are holding strong! Haven't lost them yet!

Apple didn't come out with a feature for a product "that isn't even available right now." They are available in stores, inventory changes daily so you have to check. And of course, there are those pesky millions of people who already have them and many more people who ordered them on line earlier who are getting them every day, but in MacRumors Twilight Zone (MTZ), this great new free feature that many clamored for is really just "kind of useless" if you haven't bought them yet.

At least we can begin to better understand why Apple is doomed in the MTZ, since Apple is spending around over ten billion dollars a year on R&D, and it turns out most of that is being wasted on developing "useless features," and worse, "useless products," because that foolish Tim Cook has them developing stuff that isn't even for sale yet. :(
 
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When you buy a computer(PC), generally you had to buy a new version of windows in the past. (W10 excepted). While Microsoft gave you updates and service packs, going from XP to Vista to 7 cost some amount of money. Apple gives you 5 years of ios updates included in the price.

(I buy my phones outright)

Not if it's an iphone, as I just explained.
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Incorrect. You didn't have to buy anything. The update, iOS 10.3, is free. Everything else is your responsibility.

This thread is about a feature on this update, which is free with that update. If you have an issue with how Apple sells the phone, that thread is somewhere over <not anywhere close to here>.

An update I paid for via their accounting practices. Why do people have a hard time understanding that just because you didn't exchange money and goods at a particular moment doesn't mean you didn't pay for it.
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OMG or here we go again. As you stated you PAID for it, i.e. in the past.
Anything you have gotten since they released Mac OS X for FREE and iOS which came with iOS devices etc. has been FREE, as in no money was exchanged or paid.

That is the consumer side.

Now, from a business standpoint there is of course a certain overhead percentage which Apple applies to each product which covers the development and updating costs, labor, testing etc. Take to extremes , we even pay for their office supplies, rent, research and anything they do.

I cannot follow all your twists and turns and what Apple reports as revenue doesn't affect you or me.
As for interest: If one takes $ 800 for an iPhone and spreads that over 24 months, that's $ 33.33 per month. If one could even get interest at 3% that'd be about $ 1 per month , so $ 24.00.
Put in your own number depending on what model you bought.

They have so far given us way more than $ 24 in updates and new features.

All a little convoluted and conspiracy driven. Maybe you should stay away from Apple products. Seems less stressful.

Nope. I paid for 2 years of updates. That became true when they changed their accounting practices. As I said, it's a non interest account for me, but since you want to factor interest in for them:

3% of $800 is $24. Since they have all the money upfront they would see $24 the first month, subtract that from their $33 ($800/24=$33) and you have $9 removed from the $800. So now they have $791 left for 23 months. Repeat. Their total sale plus interest would be about $1350 for every $800 iPhone. $225 a year is overpaying foe what they have supplied in updates.

What Apple reports as revenue is a direct result of what we pay.
 
Not if it's an iphone, as I just explained.
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An update I paid for via their accounting practices. Why do people have a hard time understanding that just because you didn't exchange money and goods at a particular moment doesn't mean you didn't pay for it.
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Nope. I paid for 2 years of updates. That became true when they changed their accounting practices. As I said, it's a non interest account for me, but since you want to factor interest in for them:

3% of $800 is $24. Since they have all the money upfront they would see $24 the first month, subtract that from their $33 ($800/24=$33) and you have $9 removed from the $800. So now they have $791 left for 23 months. Repeat. Their total sale plus interest would be about $1350 for every $800 iPhone. $225 a year is overpaying foe what they have supplied in updates.

What Apple reports as revenue is a direct result of what we pay.
Your explanation doesn't fit my use case...as I explained. :)
 
When you are speaking about slowdowns, you are only speaking for yourself. You surely aren't speaking for me. And the entire "planned obsolescence" meme, is just that. :)
No I am speaking for a LOT of Apple's customers.According to 9to5, even a majority at that. And the YT videos speak for themselves



I was altering the tonal qualities of my monitors long before night shift. It was O/S independent.
I cant adjust the tonal quality of my Dell P2414H monitor without software and even then I still cant exactly emulate the yellow hue on MacOS Sierra


Good luck on that suit going anywhere.
Microsoft would disagree considering their IE case. Apple is the only tech giant not allowing multiple app stores.

Apple says it's AW is a success, and in this case I'm inclined to agree and state that this is just more hyperbole from one or two anonymous internet posters who don't know apples internal financials.

The current CEO has shown a lot of foresight in releasing products that propelled Apple into the stratosphere. The prior CEO would have been stuck on a 4 inch phone. If watch bands and emojis sell phones and computers and watches, then go for it. Apple is a lifestyle company and they give their customer base the products they want.
Timmy would love to keep the share price up so no wonder he promises the moon to investors to profit from his own share pile.I do know something of Apple's internal financials though. Timmy failed at meeting the internal performance targets whatever they were and suffered a near 20% pay cut. This gives more credence to the theory that Apple is hiding the Watch sales because the Watch flopped. Popup shops worldwide are being closed down

The current CEO is credited with the first ever decline in iPhone sales,the lowest op margin in 7 years and cratering iPad sales. At least Steve's missteps (according to you) didnt involve a product which made up nearly 70% of Apple, eh?
 
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