Hands-On With Samsung's New Galaxy Fold

[Seoras]

Really? I think this is awesome and apple isnt desperate, innovative or bold enough. I hope apple copies one of these, id be first in line.

I'll bet you are one of those people who loves to slag off Apple for self proclaiming themselves as "brave" for removing the headphone jack - which Samsung ultimately copied.

 

[Abazigal]

Someone had to go first. Good to see someone taking a risk. All the complaints coming from the naysayers claiming this to be “useless”, truly lack vision. Good for Samsung! If no one took risks, how would we ever progress? No one is forcing this tech upon you. If you don’t like it, don’t buy it.

By this logic, when then is Apple constantly being raked over the coals for every misstep they make, be it real or perceived? If you don’t like their airpods or Apple TV+ streaming service, then don’t buy it. Why have long threads with hundreds of comments castigating Apple at every turn?

The hypocrisy I see here is that people claim to hold Apple to a higher standard because they “want to see Apple improve” by their very own words, yet refuse to extend this same consideration to other companies like Samsung, citing this exact same reason for giving them a free pass.

To me, logic would suggest that if you want Samsung to be viewed to be as innovative a company as Apple, then their products and actions should be subject to the same degree of scrutiny. Yet they aren’t.

You can’t have it both ways, IMO.

 

[cfurlin]

not triggered at all. I can at least recognize there are other companies out there and some even better that Apple in some regards..guess I’m glad I’m not so close minded and arrogant

Oh but you are. Your lack of self-awareness speaks volumes.

 

[Cold_Beaver]

Oh but you are. Your lack of self-awareness speaks volumes.

Oh but it doesn’t.

 

[icanhazmac]

What brand of keyboard is in the background of those pictures?

It looks like the new Logitech MX Keys... I would like to have a review of it

What keyboard is that in the background?

Posted a review in the Mac Accessories section

 

[torana355]

By this logic, when then is Apple constantly being raked over the coals for every misstep they make, be it real or perceived? If you don’t like their airpods or Apple TV+ streaming service, then don’t buy it. Why have long threads with hundreds of comments castigating Apple at every turn?

The hypocrisy I see here is that people claim to hold Apple to a higher standard because they “want to see Apple improve” by their very own words, yet refuse to extend this same consideration to other companies like Samsung, citing this exact same reason for giving them a free pass.

To me, logic would suggest that if you want Samsung to be viewed to be as innovative a company as Apple, then their products and actions should be subject to the same degree of scrutiny. Yet they aren’t.

You can’t have it both ways, IMO.

Because Apple are not taking risky options, they play it very safe, if you are going to play it safe you sure as a hell better deliver a perfect product when you have the resources Apple does. It's only common sense that Samsung will get a little more wiggle room with a product such as the Galaxy Fold. Apple have a different business philosophy, they take a technology that is already being used by others and make it as seamless as possible. in many ways they perfect it.

Like i said in another thread, Many people poked fun at Samsung with their first few generations of OLED panels, They had bad colour shift, Burn in issues, Blue off axis Whites and were terribly over saturated. However you have to start somewhere and in 2019 Samsung based OLEDs are the Gold standard in phone screens. My point being true innovation is risky and does not always goes exactly as planned but it is what pushes the industry forward.

 

[M3gatron]

By this logic, when then is Apple constantly being raked over the coals for every misstep they make, be it real or perceived? If you don’t like their airpods or Apple TV+ streaming service, then don’t buy it. Why have long threads with hundreds of comments castigating Apple at every turn?

The hypocrisy I see here is that people claim to hold Apple to a higher standard because they “want to see Apple improve” by their very own words, yet refuse to extend this same consideration to other companies like Samsung, citing this exact same reason for giving them a free pass.

To me, logic would suggest that if you want Samsung to be viewed to be as innovative a company as Apple, then their products and actions should be subject to the same degree of scrutiny. Yet they aren’t.

You can’t have it both ways, IMO.

No offense but a video streaming service or wireless earphones are nothing new or impressive from a technological.
Mentioning these things next to a phone that can open and close like a book is quite the stretch. Galaxy Fold is creating a new product category entirely but you are bothered by the people that consider Samsung innovative.
You even mention the supposed Apple AR Glasses(which we don't even know if they exist) in this thread trying to show that that Apple is also working on some new tech, although even in this specific case other companies have been working on similar products for years.

 

[chucker23n1]

Like i said in another thread, Many people poked fun at Samsung with their first few generations of OLED panels, They had bad colour shift, Burn in issues, Blue off axis Whites and were terribly over saturated. However you have to start somewhere and in 2019 Samsung based OLEDs are the Gold standard in phone screens. My point being true innovation is risky and does not always goes exactly as planned but it is what pushes the industry forward.

Samsung didn't have to ship those early panels. They could've decided to wait until they've done enough research that they reach a higher quality level. They decided, instead, to take the profits from early low-quality panels, and they're getting rightfully evaluated based on that.

 

[wildpitch]

Totally off topic...but does anyone know what brand and model of Bluetooth keyboard it was that is shown in the background of the photos above in the article and the galaxy fold review video and shoot me a reply or DM with the info? Thanks!

 

[chucker23n1]

Totally off topic...but does anyone know what brand and model of Bluetooth keyboard it was that is shown in the background of the photos above in the article and the galaxy fold review video and shoot me a reply or DM with the info? Thanks!

Hands-On With Samsung's New Galaxy Fold

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Apparently it's the Logitech MX Keys

 

[torana355]

Samsung didn't have to ship those early panels. They could've decided to wait until they've done enough research that they reach a higher quality level. They decided, instead, to take the profits from early low-quality panels, and they're getting rightfully evaluated based on that.

Developing something like that takes years and real world experience. Not everything can be perfected in-house. But sure don't give Samsung any credit, only Apple deserve such praise...

 

[Jim Lahey]

Developing something like that takes years and real world experience.

And yet these prototypes are already falling apart in the hands of the first customers and reviewers. This isn't like beta testing software with millions of users in order to gather data and uncover bugs. The problems this device faces are obvious before the consumer ever touches it. Which is probably why it comes with a sticker, warning people not to touch it

 

[cocoua]

well, I guess we should see this something as the iPhone 2G in it's days, it's bulky, front screen is very small (due to internal resources and price, ahem!...) and very expensive.

10 years from now it would be a great device!

 

[chucker23n1]

Developing something like that takes years and real world experience. Not everything can be perfected in-house. But sure don't give Samsung any credit, only Apple deserve such praise...

Samsung deserves credit for their research efforts.

They don't deserve credit for shipping a product they know is barely alpha-quality.
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well, I guess we should see this something as the iPhone 2G in it's days, it's bulky, front screen is very small (due to internal resources and price, ahem!...) and very expensive.

10 years from now it would be a great device!

iPhone 2G may have been bulky and small (pricing hasn't really changed that much, though; if anything, it was cheaper than today's iPhones), but it was a perfectly reliable product for its time.

 

[Weaselboy]

Gimmick. Also, when was there a data breach at MacRumors? Asking because the google password checkup extension says there was a breach.

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November 2013.

 

[dan110]

I see all of the naysayers here.

If this had an Apple logo, those same people would be gushing all over it talking about how their credit cards are ready.

Early innovation is sometimes ugly and imperfect. This is the future.

 

[Elektrofone]

I see all of the naysayers here.

If this had an Apple logo, those same people would be gushing all over it talking about how their credit cards are ready.

Early innovation is sometimes ugly and imperfect. This is the future.

Don't agree, I'd be very dissapointed if Apple put something like this out. I just don't see the practicality of it. It seems unfinished. Unrefined.

 

[chucker23n1]

I see all of the naysayers here.

If this had an Apple logo, those same people would be gushing all over it talking about how their credit cards are ready.

Early innovation is sometimes ugly and imperfect. This is the future.

If this did have an Apple logo, tech pundits would be shaking pitchforks at Apple for daring to release a product that already, within a few days, has reports of breakage.

 

[Jim Lahey]

If this had an Apple logo, those same people would be gushing all over it talking about how their credit cards are ready.

This is a preposterous statement based on nothing but your own narrative. You can't possibly know who would buy it and who wouldn't. Moreover, Apple would never release a prototype to market, so you'll never find out.

 

[Lalatoon]

Flexible screen is cool but...

 

[guerro]

I see all of the naysayers here.

If this had an Apple logo, those same people would be gushing all over it talking about how their credit cards are ready.

Early innovation is sometimes ugly and imperfect. This is the future.

The Sidekick was the future... until it wasn't.

 

[M3gatron]

And yet these prototypes are already falling apart in the hands of the first customers and reviewers. This isn't like beta testing software with millions of users in order to gather data and uncover bugs. The problems this device faces are obvious before the consumer ever touches it. Which is probably why it comes with a sticker, warning people not to touch it

Since Samsung launched the Fold I've only seen a reviewer to have a problem with it. So they are certainly not falling apart in the hands of the first customers and reviewers.

 

[Darth Tulhu]

My 3 cents:

1. I think this device is cool as hell, flaws be damned.

2. I would NOT buy this.

3. I don't feel one way or another if other people were to buy it; it only matters if it makes the buyer happy.

I think Microsoft's approach of 2 screens is superior, once they (or anyone) figure out a hinge that disappears and locks the 2 screens into one seamless surface (no pun intended)

 

[waterfta]

"Let's start with not wanting to carry a phone in my pocket that's thicker than my X. And from there having to unfold the phone to do anything; take a phone call; check my email/messages/weather/stocks/etc, engage my calculator, listen to music, and on and on. And especially, as I'm a photographer and make photos all the time, having to unfold my "camera" whenever I want to make a photo. Most things I do with my phone (other than make photos, or use my calculator) don't require two hands. To me that's huge."

Cool for you, however, this product is not made for everyone, nor would anyone expect it to be 'standard', similarly how they make three different iPhones now. It is as if someone is complaining how the Max phones are too big and ignoring they could just buy the smaller sized device. Personally, I am finding the width of larger phones to be more of an issue than thickness, but, to each their own. You don't have to unfold you phone to do everything, that's why there is an external touch screen (which is 4.6", larger than old iPhone screens which were sufficient for many years without complaint). This is why it seems you are trolling. You are just saying things that are purely untrue. However, it is easy to see that the experience using the phone while closed is less than ideal compared to other normal phones, but, this phone is not designed to be normal.

"Hates Microsoft Surface products? What a truly bizarre question. No, I don't hate companies/products/etc. On tech forums that's the domain of people who are perpetually unhappy feeling they haven't received a fair shake in life and need to act out and "hate on" something in order to feel good about themselves. Thanks for asking though."

-Contextually it seemed relevant to ask.


"Apple won't release a folding phone that's like what Samsung has released, for the ergonomic frustrations I mentioned above. I suspect Apple may release a phone where the screen can expand beyond it's normal state. But it won't be due to being unfolded. And it will be usable like a normal phone in it's normal state."

I agree that by the time Apple released anything similar, it will (hopefully) be more polished. Apple is not a risky company these days, even though they like to pretend they on top of the world in innovation. They are leaders in getting others to adopt technology because they can prove its usefulness in ways others cannot. This is in line with them not releasing their wireless charger as it was not up to their standards. Samsung probably would have just released it and crossed their fingers for the best.

 

[SteveJUAE]

This is a preposterous statement based on nothing but your own narrative. You can't possibly know who would buy it and who wouldn't. Moreover, Apple would never release a prototype to market, so you'll never find out.

This is laughable you 2nd guess Apple yet criticise Dan110

I think many would consider the Apple KB nothing better than a prototype that is now on it's 3rd gen