That’s what I did. 24 core gpu 16" seems to be the sweet spot of reasonable priced max performance when I believe Max Tech. With the arrival of the M2 MaxBooks the refurbished decreased another 300 €.
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Hands-On With the New M2 Max MacBook Pro
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You know, I think it might be cool to actually put together a proposal for how Apple could create a low-volume notebook exterior chassis personalization/customization line within one of their assembly facilities. The line could:
- powdercoat the aluminum chassis (assuming no impact to heat conduction through the aluminum)
- paint / polymer skin / shrink wrap the aluminum chassis (assuming no impact to heat conduction through the aluminum)
- apply unique graphics / color patterns to the keyboard and trackpad
- install "clear" amber style keys (ie: homaging the awesome Powerbook G3 Pismo) or other translucent color
- apply matte or clear-coat scratch protection to the aluminum chassis (assuming no impact to heat conduction through the aluminum)
I love my 2001 Powerbook G3 Pismo... and I would LOVE to have a new MBP that has the look of PISMO: matte black and clear amber keys, or just clear keys. (Assuming no impact to heat conduction through the aluminum.)
If you could create this chassis customization package and line at the plant... and price the package at a base price of $500 (minimum), I am sure that at least 20% to 35% of all new MBP buyers would be willing to spend the extra $500+ chassis customization fee. Just allow an additional 2 weeks for delivery to get the customization work done.
It's so money.
I'm looking to upgrade my Mid '15 MBP with i7 which was a Refurbished unit. I got a laugh out of the 32GB RAM comment for photography because mine has 16GB and I'm a freelance photographer running Capture One and Photoshop and have had zero issues with performance even on my old MBP.
The M-series MacBook Pros are so thick it's almost comical. I remember the first time I saw one I couldn't believe I was actually looking at the latest Mac laptop. They're as thick as the MacBooks Apple made in the early 2000s.
I know! it's great, isn't it?
Certainly doesn't seem that way. What numbers are you looking at?
I still have my 2002 iBook. I get my new M2 Max MBP Monday. I'll post 'em side by side for you
Thanks for the suggestion. I’ll probably do that. I wonder if they’re actually refurbished, or just overstock that they’re selling as refurbished because of the new version.
I can only assume you were not yet born in the early 2000.
The iBook G3 and later the G4 where 3.4cm thick.
The 2006 MBP was 2.54cm thick.
The current model is 1.55cm
Even the 2020 MBP is thicker at 1.56cm
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So US release date has already passed?
If so, we got so cucked in Australia.
Release date: 3rd of Feb😐
If so, we got so cucked in Australia.
Release date: 3rd of Feb😐
Does anyone have experience traveling with their 16, it sounds like it might be a big pain? I don't travel too much once per quarter. But like the idea of larger screen.
I've had both the 14 and the 16" M1 Pro. The 16 is definitely the better of the two for mostly working at a desk. If you intended to do a bunch of work on the seat tray of an airline during a cross-country trip, that might be asking a bit much. For me, the weight or size of the 16 was not that big an issue. Both fit in my tech bag. But for use in a hotel room or in your home office, I preferred the 16". I wound up selling the 16" and bought the less expensive 14" on a great deal just to save some money since I use monitors in my home office.
The M2 MacBooks will get hotter too not only slower SSDs... hmmm that's kinda disappointing @![:apple:]( "Apple :apple:")
Got a refurbed too. Wanted to get the M2 Pro 12c19 16GB 1TB stock (SGD$3599) but ended up getting a refurbed M1pro 10c16 16GB 1TB for SGD$2879. The new ones are 24% more for roughly 20% more performance so I thought if I can get away with spending less, I would. Granted it's still refurbed and it's not always available.
But what 3.4cm they were/are. Plugged mine in the other week and still work and hold battery. Yes hold charge.
I find any comments "that the latest MBPs are an underwhelming upgrade" to be funny.
Apple, or any computer manufacturer, is not going to release a groundbreaking laptop upgrade year-on-year.
One of the reasons Apple moved to its own designed silicon chip, was the frustration that Intel chips were not improving on a regular basis. The MBP M2 Pro/Max are a statistically significant CPU/GPU specification upgrade, in some cases up to 30%, compared to the MBP M1 Pro/Max released only 1 year 3 months ago. That in itself is a good upgrade, not to mention the other incremental improvements to HDMI 2.1, Bluetooth 5.3, WiFi 6E, etc.
The MBP M1s were a huge upgrade on the previous models, and I don't think we can expect huge upgrades on the MBPs every year! At any rate, most people should not be expecting to need to upgrade their laptop every year!
Apple, or any computer manufacturer, is not going to release a groundbreaking laptop upgrade year-on-year.
One of the reasons Apple moved to its own designed silicon chip, was the frustration that Intel chips were not improving on a regular basis. The MBP M2 Pro/Max are a statistically significant CPU/GPU specification upgrade, in some cases up to 30%, compared to the MBP M1 Pro/Max released only 1 year 3 months ago. That in itself is a good upgrade, not to mention the other incremental improvements to HDMI 2.1, Bluetooth 5.3, WiFi 6E, etc.
The MBP M1s were a huge upgrade on the previous models, and I don't think we can expect huge upgrades on the MBPs every year! At any rate, most people should not be expecting to need to upgrade their laptop every year!
The negativity is not about the improvements, it's because there are some unexpected and unnecessary downgrades(Heatsink, SSD)!
My comment was probably better directed at other threads, rather than this one in particular.
I wasn't aware of those issues. Looks like the SSD issue is specific to the entry level 14 inch 512 GB. Understandably cheap from Apple. My experience has been with the 16 inch MBPs, which don't appear to be impacted?
What is the heatsink issue, and what models are impacted?
I wasn't aware of those issues. Looks like the SSD issue is specific to the entry level 14 inch 512 GB. Understandably cheap from Apple. My experience has been with the 16 inch MBPs, which don't appear to be impacted?
What is the heatsink issue, and what models are impacted?
From what I have seen so far both base models are impacted by those issues!(Haven't seen the interior of the higher-specced machines as of yet.)
The heatsink is basically smaller now and that means a lesser area for the heat-distribution! In my experience a smaller heatsink will give higher temperatures especially with a more powerful chip! So for me this "move" doesn't really make any sense!
spot on. What an incredibly ignorant statement by @SW3029
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