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Global Browser Market Share (All Platforms - Feb 2026)Why anyone would use Chrome as a browser still amazes me. That is the worst there is.
- Chrome: ~69%
- Safari: ~16%
- Edge: ~5%
- Firefox: ~2%
- Samsung Internet: ~3.9% (Mobile)
Global Browser Market Share (All Platforms - Feb 2026)Why anyone would use Chrome as a browser still amazes me. That is the worst there is.
I had netbooks way back when...I remember them being smaller than 13" and you're right...they died out.
Since there aren't many 11" or 12" laptops that could be confused with a netbook, I'd just call the Neo a normal laptop.
Why one or the other? Get the MacBook Neo, but also the iPad Air* 11 WITHOUT the Magic Keyboard -- it's still better ergonomically than any MacBook for media consumption.I really wish they colour matched it with the iMac colours, particularly the "yellow" since citrus looks... weird
Either way, amazing value, especially with the education discount, and the design looks fresh. I have a 16" MBP, but really want to get one of these as I've been contemplating getting an iPad Pro with the Magic Keyboard to have something smaller and easier to take around... ah I don't know what to do.
Are you forgetting the 12" MacBook was $1300? Hardly qualifies as a "burner/travel lappy", while at $600, this new Neo certainly does.yeah, I was hoping for a return of the 12" Macbook. All set to buy one as a burner/travel lappy.
Glad that this is here for the people who need it. Guess I'll have to take that $700 I put aside, roll it up and smoke it like ditch weed.
They could’ve done that now.If Apple spec bumps this in 12-18 months with an A19 Pro with 12 GB of RAM but keeps the price the same that will make this even more of a value.
Maybe you should wait for the next generation with 12GB RAM and A19 Pro.If I didn't just get my 2018 MacBook Air with 16gb ram and 512ssd.... I definitely would be getting one of these. I still may consider it.
They also call it out in the ad as supporting multitouch gestures so you can pinch to zoom, swipe spaces, etc and show the user doing so. Time: 0:57 and 2:14Apple's site says:
- Multi-Touch trackpad for precise cursor control and support for gestures
With these RAM prices/economy currently? Yeah, not happening in the next 5-10 years.If Apple spec bumps this in 12-18 months with an A19 Pro with 12 GB of RAM but keeps the price the same that will make this even more of a value.
It definitely is when you consider how long in the tooth the M1 air was becoming when Walmart sold it on close-out. I also agree the extra 100 nits will make a difference. Particularly outdoors.The M1 Macbook air "wedge" was a great machine, but I always felt the 400 nit screen let it down. To me the $599 Neo with a 500 nit screen (same brightness as a curren Air) is a far better value than the M1 Air wedge that was selling at Walmart!
Thanks, I will take it under consideration.Get neither and wait for the Back-To-School sale in June. (That is if you're in the US or Canada. The sales may be at different times in other countries, assuming they exist at all.) Or if you want one now and you're in the US, get a discounted M4 MacBook Air from Amazon.
I almost feel Apple went with the A18 Pro chip due to the increasing Memory prices. Probably not though since the wild increases are still so recent.With these RAM prices/economy currently? Yeah, not happening in the next 5-10 years.
Thank you for clarifying that you understand how much this computer has not been designed for you…Personally I prioritize advancements in display tech for the exact reason you've laid out here...basic computing tasks run fluidly on everything now, with a few deviations from something like a Wish.com scam market machine.
I also dont mind a thin client. I looked at things and said, if I want to lock down and control everything (example: run a home server/LLM/etc) I'm doing it full fat or not doing it all. The cloud is convenient and using GeForce Now was an eye opener for me because it allowed to play graphically intense games on damn near anything (iPad Pro for example). No heat, no noise, excellent battery life...a wireless experience. Regardless of the "gaming aspect" it demonstrates offloading hardware requirements somewhere else can (if you are ok with it) make the way you look at hardware change. So, in the case of this MacBook vs a Core i5/AMD offering, the ability to use something like TB4 is even more profoundly important. It gives my thin, light piece of kit the ability to parlay its looking glass into alternative canvases of higher resolutions or faster refresh rates. I can spread out across 2 4K monitors for working with .csv files or plug into one gorgeous gaming monitor and play a game that requires substantially hotter and louder hardware than the aforementioned iPad (for example).
I see tremendous value in that *specific* type of flexibility, which is on brand for my entire thesis of the thin client, which is flexibility and accessibility. So when people say "the A18 is hands down better than a MODERN Core i5," not only is it subjective, but in terms of utility, it's flat out wrong.
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Yet the iPad Air has 12 GB RAM (which is more than my M4 iPad Pro).I almost feel Apple went with the A18 Pro chip due to the increasing Memory prices. Probably not though since the wild increases are still so recent.
That is true. Good point. Apple are definitely better able to absorb those costs being as large as they are.Yet the iPad Air has 12 GB RAM (which is more than my M4 iPad Pro).
More likely, they had to freeze the design more than a year ago so that they could enter production on time and the 18 pro was the current state of the art chip.I almost feel Apple went with the A18 Pro chip due to the increasing Memory prices. Probably not though since the wild increases are still so recent.
It is 2 to 4X the cost of devices deployed in education (iPads, Chromebooks). It is pointlessly underwhelming for consumers, especially when the M4 MBA is on fire sale 24/7.Thank you for clarifying that you understand how much this computer has not been designed for you…
Exactly. It should have been smaller/lighter. Instead it's practically the same size as an air, with worse battery life, and the same weight...I was really hoping this would be for me but it’s not enough of a differentiator to a MacBook Air other than being a cheaper less able Air. If it was smaller (12”) and/or had more battery life but with the lower performance, I could justify buying it. If I had no MacBook Air, I may be tempted to buy this or would I have just got a cheaper M2/M3/M4?
Good for someone who doesn’t have a MacBook Air but can’t afford it - but who knows if it’s a good enough proposition compared to an older M model air given that it doesn’t seem to really beat the Air in portability or battey life.