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Re: Re: Re: Re: All bow before the superior design knowledge of the almighty Alphatec

Originally posted by Hemingray


The pizza box idea is fine except for one thing, mischief: the old pizza box designs were around when people still used CRTs! Now that Apple sells nothing but flat panels, where would it go?? It would jut out awkwardly sitting under a flat panel. Not to mention it'd take up a fair amount of desk real estate. They'd have to make it a "personal pan pizza" size. :D

Also, the Red Mobo has the PCI cards going in vertically (if the mobo is flat), which would make the case a lot thicker than a pizza box. It'd be more like the old beige desktops.

I second the opinion that there is no reason why the handle and door can't be on the left side (like the original towers). Also, Apple may be designing a completely new way of accessing the inside, e.g. removing the face and having the mobo and drives slide out on rails of some sort. This is a rumor site, afterall, so there's no need to be so rigid in thinking and dishing out condescension to newbies or anyone else.
 
Originally posted by Hemingray


Whoa, wait a second... remember that "white speaker" powermac picture floating around without the hatch handle on the right side? WHAT IF... and just for the sake of what if... the handle was now on the LEFT side in some different fashion? (Like the original beige G3 towers). Then this whole thing would actually make sense...

That is exactly what I was thinking !
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: All bow before the superior design knowledge of the almighty Alphatec

Originally posted by dongmin


Also, the Red Mobo has the PCI cards going in vertically (if the mobo is flat), which would make the case a lot thicker than a pizza box. It'd be more like the old beige desktops.

I second the opinion that there is no reason why the handle and door can't be on the left side (like the original towers). Also, Apple may be designing a completely new way of accessing the inside, e.g. removing the face and having the mobo and drives slide out on rails of some sort. This is a rumor site, afterall, so there's no need to be so rigid in thinking and dishing out condescension to newbies or anyone else.

Thank you!
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: All bow before the superior design knowledge of the almighty Alphatec

Originally posted by dongmin


Also, the Red Mobo has the PCI cards going in vertically (if the mobo is flat), which would make the case a lot thicker than a pizza box. It'd be more like the old beige desktops.

I second the opinion that there is no reason why the handle and door can't be on the left side (like the original towers). Also, Apple may be designing a completely new way of accessing the inside, e.g. removing the face and having the mobo and drives slide out on rails of some sort. This is a rumor site, afterall, so there's no need to be so rigid in thinking and dishing out condescension to newbies or anyone else.

Thank you!
 
What about a tower turned 90 degrees, so that the front is one of the squareish sides? That might work. I'm not sure where the Optical drives would go. I could draw a picture, but I'm not sure how to add a picture to a post (I'm not stupid, I just have never realy tried. To prove I'm not stupid, look at the last item in my profile.) Which of the little things on that motherboard are for the CD drives and/or zip drive
 
Originally posted by AlphaTech
As for the memory amount... don't you remember the G4 towers with four memory slots that maxed out at 1.5GB??

The 1.5GB ram in the older G4's was limited by the OS, not the motherboard. Stick 4 512MB sticks into one of the older boxes with four slots, load up OS X and you've got 2GB of ram. I have 3 different servers running OS X Server with this configuration, and since Alpha will probably ask for proof :D , this is from the AppleSytemProfiler in the terminal:

System version = Mac OS X Server 10.1.4 Server (5S40) [ Mac OS X 10.1.5 (5S66) ]
Machine speed = 500 MHz
Bus speed = 100MHz
Customer serial number = XB03603D-JMW-ff06
Sales order number = M7659LL/A
L2 cache size = 1 MB
Machine name = Power Mac G4
boot device = 'Power Mac G4' Disk
boot rom info = 3.4f1 BootROM built on 08/08/00 at 22:02:19
Memory data
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Location Type Speed Info Size
DIMM0/J21 SDRAM PC100-322S 512 MB
DIMM1/J22 SDRAM PC100-322S 512 MB
DIMM2/J23 SDRAM PC100-322S 512 MB
DIMM3/J24 SDRAM PC100-322S 512 MB

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Originally posted by AlphaTech
Think about it for a second folks... the positioning of things are way off. As that stands, the processor would be at the bottom of the case, with the cards at the top. Unless Apple completely redesigns the case to do that, this has less chance then a snowball in hell. Anyone with a Gn tower can confirm this... the ports go out the back, which would put the PCI and AGP slots at the top of the case.

As for the memory amount... don't you remember the G4 towers with four memory slots that maxed out at 1.5GB??


THe G4s Maxed out at at 1.5GB because of the max size of DIMMs and OS 9 only would use the first 1GB, the rest could be used as a ram disk. OS X does not have this problem
 
Hah! Gods, I never thought I'd see it!!

Alpha has been taken out by a pack of logical, flexible minded Newbies!!!

BRAVO!!

In answer to the question about drive cables: The rear right quadrant appears to have 2 ATA cable plugs for Hard Drives and there's a third drive plug along the right edge. This would mean a total of 6 drives off the mobo. I would assume that the pair would be ATA-100 or ATA-133 and the third would remain ATA-66 for the opticals.

As to orientation: What's to prevent a tower designed to tuck behind the Studio Displays with the Optical trays and cables available from either side? Thus placing the "side" of the case foreward against the back of the display? This would be practical in many respects and allow easy acess to both drives and cables.


Keep in mind: This board suggests a RADICAL departure from El Capitan so we can assume that only the principal of the side hatch will be retained. For all we know Apple could have designed a "seamless" case that lifts off of a frame that opens like origami once unsheathed.
 
This picture is what I mean by a sideways tower. It would open backward, so you could install ram. I dont have photoshop so that was the best I could do.
 

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