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Yes it's thicker an heavier but doesn't feel like it and I'm using the 11 Pro Max coming from an XS Max. An extra 0.1mm to 0.5mm or so thicker again on top of the current 11 Pro Max for the 3D touch layer is going to make bugger all difference as the phones are thin enough anyway.
 
the macrumors article is either very dumbly written, or, cleverly written.

in the article there is no mention that in the Accessibility menu that is pointed out, on devices that actually can do 3D touch there is an additional setting that still access 3D touch, yes, actually does still continue to access a deep push feature.

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this is on iOS 13.1.2
Does it actually work?
Is it on or off by default? I don’t have my Xs anyone to check.
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Yes it's thicker an heavier but doesn't feel like it and I'm using the 11 Pro Max coming from an XS Max. An extra 0.1mm to 0.5mm or so thicker again on top of the current 11 Pro Max for the 3D touch layer is going to make bugger all difference as the phones are thin enough anyway.
In my opinion is thick and heavy to the limit.
I don’t want it any bigger than it is.
I’m super happy about battery life on my iPhone 11 pro and I don’t really miss 3D Touch.
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Reminds me of jailbreak tweaks for the iPhone 6 and older.

Was it a gimmick if I used it daily and absolutely loved it? And I'm sure I have users on this forum to back me up on that.
And there were users calling it gimmick on this forum too. You can search for yourself.
Whatever Apple does, people here will complain.
 
Does it actually work?
Is it on or off by default? I don’t have my Xs anyone to check.
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In my opinion is thick and heavy to the limit.
I don’t want it any bigger than it is.
I’m super happy about battery life on my iPhone 11 pro and I don’t really miss 3D Touch.
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And there were users calling it gimmick on this forum too. You can search for yourself.
Whatever Apple does, people here will complain.

on. and working.
but maybe on by default only because it was always on on my 6s device for these 4+ years.
 
It’s still there on devices that support it, however some aspects of it have been modified.
Checked on my wife’s iPhone 6S.
It’s still there, but not giving really much more than haptics touch tbh.
By the way I think it’s down to personal taste. I’m finding haptics touch more consistent, even if I was a quite strong 3D Touch user.
 
Checked on my wife’s iPhone 6S.
It’s still there, but not giving really much more than haptics touch tbh.
By the way I think it’s down to personal taste. I’m finding haptics touch more consistent, even if I was a quite strong 3D Touch user.
Well, there are things it still offers that aren’t there with Haptic Touch.

And yes, it can be down to personal use of course, but 3D Touch is nonetheless more powerful and offers more for those who do use it.
 
None of that seems to be related to the noticeable slower performance of Haptic Touch compared to 3D Touch, which must ruin the whole device experience going by that same logic of the supposed home button lag that supposedly did that. Given that it would just be inconsistent, to say the least, otherwise.
3D Touch motor? Are we talking about the Taptic Engine, which is still basically there and isn’t exactly all that related to 3D Touch? Seems like the foolishness might lie elsewhere there.
Aren't the new phones heavier anyway? Seems like something that is fairly moot as far as it being 3D Touch related.
You only look at speed and not the error rate. It happens plenty of times for me even on the keyboard that I press hard and the trackpad didnt activate. Sometimes I almost dropped the phone holding it one handed because it requires effort to press hard on the screen.

Long Press has a 100% success rate, never fails, never requires effort, doesn't need special hardware, allows for battery to be larger.

Its like an overclocked CPU which reboots the PC every 30 mins. Sure its faster than a non-overclocked CPU but you compromised on stability.

This is not even remotely comparable to home button delay because it was perfect before and the delay of 1 second irritated me to no end because it didn't solve a single problem. Haptic Touch solved the problems of 3DT.
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Well, there are things it still offers that aren’t there with Haptic Touch.

And yes, it can be down to personal use of course, but 3D Touch is nonetheless more powerful and offers more for those who do use it.

Everyone forgets 3DT was even there because you have to go out of your wway to use it and don't even get me started on the plenty of apps where it doesnt work. Its very inconsistent. Some apps it works. Some it doesn't. Long Press works everywhere.

Haptic Touch is superior to 3DT.
 
You only look at speed
This is not even remotely comparable to home button delay because it was perfect before and the delay of 1 second irritated me to no end
Seems like the same things are involved in the comparison that I brought up, just fairly different treatment of them, it would appear, based on what fits the narrative.
 
Checked on my wife’s iPhone 6S.
It’s still there, but not giving really much more than haptics touch tbh.
By the way I think it’s down to personal taste. I’m finding haptics touch more consistent, even if I was a quite strong 3D Touch user.

3dt was useless. Haptic Touch/Long Press was always able to do what 3DT but Apple needed a way to sell the iPhone 6S because without 3DT no one would upgrade from the 6 so they gimped the 6 by not giving it long press. Once we reached iOS 11,iPhone 6S and iPhone 7 were rendered obsolete so Apple quietly enabled a limited form of long press on Iphone 6. Then they threw it away by the time iOS 13 launched.
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Seems like the same things are involved in the comparison that I brought up, just fairly different treatment of them, it would appear, based on what fits the narrative.

The point is its not slower if you take into account the effort involved in 3DT. Haptic Touch is just as fast as 3DT if not faster.
 
The point is its not slower if you take into account the effort involved in 3DT. Haptic Touch is just as fast as 3DT if not faster.
Seems like that's not actually the case for those who actually made use of it. It's interesting how the whole part about how fast something is and how much of an effect it has can be presented in different ways to fit different narratives based on convenience.
3dt was useless. Haptic Touch/Long Press was always able to do what 3DT but Apple needed a way to sell the iPhone 6S because without 3DT no one would upgrade from the 6 so they gimped the 6 by not giving it long press. Once we reached iOS 11,iPhone 6S and iPhone 7 were rendered obsolete so Apple quietly enabled a limited form of long press on Iphone 6. Then they threw it away by the time iOS 13 launched.
And yet as many posts in this thread, among others, have pointed out, that's not really the case as 3D Touch is capable of a fair bit more and usually in a faster manner. The parts that some had some sort of issues using it or didn't care much about it or something else of that nature doesn't negate or change those facts.
 
Fun fact:

The term ‘Force touch’ is actually Apple’s version of marketing 3D Touch for the Apple Watch, which invokes similar actions with secondary options.

That said, Force touch is very much like 3D Touch, Apple never really marketed aside from the keynote, and I’m guessing many have no idea really how to manipulate it.
yep
 
late to the party...
these two are just not comparable. One is an additional hardware sensor that adds another dimension to touch, and the other is a software implementation.

Haptic touch is not a 3D touch replacement.
 
Can you turn off haptic touch feedback? I like the options when I long press however that vibration/ feedback can be a little much at times.
 
Would you pay $100 extra for 3d touch? The iPhone 6s (with 3d touch) was $100 more than the iPhone 6 (without 3dtouch).
You’re claiming the $100 was for 3DT? I’m claiming the $100 was broken down like this. $2 3dt, $97 faster cpu, $1 fir 1 gig more ram.
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I’m glad it and the headphone jack have gone.
Both pointless antiques that deserve to be in the bin.
Haptic Touch is back to the future then?
 
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You’re claiming the $100 was for 3DT? I’m claiming the $100 was broken down like this. $2 3dt, $97 faster cpu, $1 fir 1 gig more ram.
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Haptic Touch is back to the future then?
Apple always nickle and diming. Holding back features and improvements because of 1 or 2 dollars
 
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Apple always nickle and diming. Holding back features and improvements because of 1 or 2 dollars
It’s up to the individual to decide if they want Apple products or not. People disagree with this assessment and Apple is valued at $1T. One can buy a Samsung Phone and get hardware that fails and software that is insecure. But no nickel and diming. /s
 
well, I've been using it for a month before make my opinion, now I can ensure Haptic Touch is far below 3D touch, is slower and this kills the entire experience, moreover, quickactions in home screen could end in moving around the apps, you must wait to the the pop up dialog before move your finger or you just could move around the app, before, open a new tab in safari from home screen was quick and a default move, now is a nonsense as is quicker to tap the app and write in the last tab opened.

Delay settings is also a nonsense, is made for retards, you can't actually make it faster, as double or triple actions in the old home button, you only can choose between slow or super slow. Some of us are ready to use our phones in a faster way.
 
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well, I've been using it for a month before make my opinion, now I can ensure Haptic Touch is far below 3D touch, is slower and this kills the entire experience, moreover, quickactions in home screen could end in moving around the apps, you must wait to the the pop up dialog before move your finger or you just could move around the app, before, open a new tab in safari from home screen was quick and a default move, now is a nonsense as is quicker to tap the app and write in the last tab opened.

Delay settings is also a nonsense, is made for retards, you can't actually make it faster, as double or triple actions in the old home button, you only can choose between slow or super slow. Some of us are ready to use our phones in a faster way.

yeah just went from 6S to XR, and i miss 3D touch. It's not as much of a deal breaker but i find it much less intuitive and slower.
 
Gaming:
i use 3D touch to play PUBG. i touch the scope to scope in and press harder to fire.
this also allows me to drag the sight around without firing and then press harder to fire.
not possible with Haptic Touch.

so the original makers of PUBG, Krafton, liscensed out mobile development to Tencent. i’m assuming they want those profits back so that’s why they came out with New State. but New State doesn’t suport 3D Touch - which makes sense since it’s been abandoned. problem is i can’t play New State without 3D Touch. i just get killed so fast.

so..i’m stick with my iPhone XS Max until i don’t want to play 1st Person Shooters anymore…
 
Using my iPhone 8, suddenly, I hard-pressed the screen, and I saw how fast the contextual menu appeared. After a couple of years barely using 3D Touch for contextual menus (and rather, waiting a second for the menu to pop), I suddenly remembered how cool 3D Touch is. And honestly, maybe I won’t miss it a lot when I finally switch to an iPhone SE 3rd gen, or an iPhone 13 mini, but I realize how convenient it still is.
 
Using my iPhone 8, suddenly, I hard-pressed the screen, and I saw how fast the contextual menu appeared. After a couple of years barely using 3D Touch for contextual menus (and rather, waiting a second for the menu to pop), I suddenly remembered how cool 3D Touch is. And honestly, maybe I won’t miss it a lot when I finally switch to an iPhone SE 3rd gen, or an iPhone 13 mini, but I realize how convenient it still is.
Haptic feedback, imo, is a poor substitute for 3D Touch which was really cool. I really want the option to turn it on on my Xs max.
 
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Haptic feedback, imo, is a poor substitute for 3D Touch which was really cool. I really want the option to turn it on on my Xs max.
Haptic Feedback is just touching for a second or two, and I agree on you that it is less convenient. However, if you have an XS Max, which has the hardware just like my iPhone 8, just try to press harder on an app icon, and you’ll see how it reacts instantly. Thats 3D Touch. 3D Touch is not gone, just enter on any website, and make a hard press on any link: you’ll immediately see the preview pop. That’s 3D Touch.

On newer hardware they don’t have this, and they are limited to waiting a whole second before watching the menu or the preview or whatever. That’s Haptic Feedback.
 
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