This cold war on security is nothing but good for end users who just want their papers and things to be private. Especially from overbearing police and regulators.
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Or the far more likely scenario where your phone is stolen and you hope the thief can't get into it.So when you live in in danger, your family in kidnapped, your daughter raped, your car stolen etc etc.
Are you going to turn to Apple for help or the Law agencies?
Hopefully that is the case.This was 2014, the device is likely running iOS 6 or 7, and was probably broken into with a known and already patched exploit.
Here's a thought. Apple could participate in bug bounty programs like everyone else. Pay people who find flaws in the OS. Heck, Facebook just paid a 10 year old kid $10,000 for an Instagram bug. Not sure why you think Apple should be getting free security help. If any company can afford to pay for it, it's Apple.They should be made to reveal how they unlocked the phones so Apple can keep its millions or customers safer, because anyone can use other encryption methods. Yes it makes law enforcement's job harder, but it also impedes framing in the technology age and it's not Apple's job to make law enforcement's job easier. It's Apple's job to provide its customers and its millions of using public security. Apple cannot suddenly make humans less primitive in their private lives. People will be people.
After the last time you entered your passcode I would imagine?I’ve never been sure how this works. 48 hours after what exactly?
Well, to be fair, you're getting this information on MR. The focus of MR's article is the iPhone, not the details of the case. There are likely better sources to use to form an opinion about the actual case. Trying to form an opinion about a potential murder case based on an article about an iPhone is... well...What I want to know is what difference it makes whether or not he had a verbal argument or one in text. I could have a knock down drag out verbal argument with my husband in person or in text but it doesn't mean he was the one who killed me if I turned up dead. It could have been the butler in the parlor with the candlestick.
Doesn't law enforcement have more ironclad evidence that this guy killed his wife? If all they have for evidence of motive is a nasty argument in texts on an IPhone, or even a text of apology making the defendent seem nicer, I think either way it's too flimsy for a jury to consider.
Now I could understand the importance of getting to texts saying where a body is buried or a hostage is being kept. But in this particular case I'm not getting why the iPhone is so important. Unless he bludgeoned her to death with it.
Ah, I see. Thanks for the link, now it makes slightly more sense. I do think it's odd that it makes such a difference between premeditated murder and a "heat of the moment" thing. The victim is still dead either way and the killing is still a nasty one, in front of the kids and all. But at least now I understand why they want the phone unlocked. Thank you again.Well, to be fair, you're getting this information on MR. The focus of MR's article is the iPhone, not the details of the case. There are likely better sources to use to form an opinion about the actual case. Trying to form an opinion about a potential murder case based on an article about an iPhone is... well...
Here, this might help with your questions. It appears the defense is trying to use the iPhone to dig up an excuse for the murder: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/cri...urdering-wife-trial-delayed-article-1.2504999
C'mon MrKramer. The likelihood of a common phone thief having that particular exploit is laughable. Theoretically possible, yes. But highly unlikely. We create the fanciful scenarios without regard for reality. Realistically, if your phone was to be stolen it would end up parted out or on Craiglist for some dumbass to buy, to only realize later they can't use it.There is personal information on there. If no one knows how to hack into it it is safe. However now we know that hackers have figured out a way to get in so potentially that personal information is at risk if someone were to steal my phone. Obviously nothing is unhackable, but if there are known flaws that aren't fixed the safety of data on a phone is compromised much more than if the flaw was there but unknown.
Not certain, but it could be the difference between death penalty and a lesser sentence like life, 30 years, etc. With California seemingly getting ready to executing death row inmates again, it could be a concern.Ah, I see. Thanks for the link, now it makes slightly more sense. I do think it's odd that it makes such a difference between premeditated murder and a "heat of the moment" thing. The victim is still dead either way and the killing is still a nasty one, in front of the kids and all. But at least now I understand why they want the phone unlocked. Thank you again.
They should be made to reveal how they unlocked the phones so Apple can keep its millions or customers safer, because anyone can use other encryption methods. Yes it makes law enforcement's job harder, but it also impedes framing in the technology age and it's not Apple's job to make law enforcement's job easier. It's Apple's job to provide its customers and its millions of using public security. Apple cannot suddenly make humans less primitive in their private lives. People will be people.
Another instance of the US government not caring about the privacy and rights of citizens.
Hardened Security Features of iPhone 5s Successfully Hacked in LAPD Murder Investigation
According to FBI director James Comey, the method obtained by the bureau only worked on a "narrow slice of phones", which did not include models of the iPhone 5s and after, presumably because the latter devices are equipped with Apple's proprietary Secure Enclave
They should be made to reveal how they unlocked the phones so Apple can keep its millions or customers safer, because anyone can use other encryption methods. Yes it makes law enforcement's job harder, but it also impedes framing in the technology age and it's not Apple's job to make law enforcement's job easier. It's Apple's job to provide its customers and its millions of using public security. Apple cannot suddenly make humans less primitive in their private lives. People will be people.
Thieves don't care what is in your phone, they just wipe it clean and resell it.Or the far more likely scenario where your phone is stolen and you hope the thief can't get into it.
LAPD hacked the phone but without the FBI tool.
So they hacked the phone but didn't hack the phone. Gotcha.
Apple isn't the "warm fuzzy protector" that millions of users fantasize about.Nope, no problem as long as Apple works to find out what the hole is so they can try to patch it and keep our phones safe.
You're conflating two different things. FBI cracked the 5C using one exploit. They assumed that exploit was not viable against iPhones with Secure Enclave. The LAPD reportedly cracked a 5S with a SE.So they hacked the phone but didn't hack the phone. Gotcha.
That would make sense if Apple helped Justice when crime is committed (you know, privacy enters an special status when investigating crime, because crime data can't be secret for authorities unless you affirm crime is a right).Nope, no problem as long as Apple works to find out what the hole is so they can try to patch it and keep our phones safe.
Your post makes no sense, if Apple worked with them to open phones in criminal cases that would mean that Apple would be opening up new vulnerabilities and not trying to close existing ones.That would make sense if Apple helped Justice when crime is committed (you know, privacy enters an special status when investigating crime, because crime data can't be secret for authorities unless you affirm crime is a right).
No one said "warm fuzzy" except you.Apple isn't the "warm fuzzy protector" that millions of users fantasize about.
Thanks for doing your part.My dear friends, I have got nothing to do. I am wandering aimlessly in life and have a great need to occupy my mind with any old subject matter irrelevant to me but perhaps interesting no my curiosity nonetheless. Please help me by supplying endless thoughts and opinions on anything related to iPhones it doesn't matter how trivial or absurd or obscure or non-consequential, lets just dive in and become immersed in this ocean of titillation.
If there's no proof they can say whatever they want (and badmouthing Apple is all they care now)...
They should be made to reveal how they unlocked the phones so Apple can keep its millions or customers safer, because anyone can use other encryption methods. Yes it makes law enforcement's job harder, but it also impedes framing in the technology age and it's not Apple's job to make law enforcement's job easier. It's Apple's job to provide its customers and its millions of using public security. Apple cannot suddenly make humans less primitive in their private lives. People will be people.
The Vulnerability Equities Process allows federal agencies to determine whether critical security flaws should be kept private for law enforcement use or disclosed to companies to allow them to patch major vulnerabilities.