i got my Airtags day 1. I then somehow lost them later in that same day. I tracked them down and received the Airtag. It was scary
It will.the battery is supposed to last a year, I'm sure it will alert you when the battery is getting low
mazz0 said:Yeah, that’s right. It’s anonymised so you don’t know whose iPhone helped locate your tag, and that iPhone doesn’t know anything about the tags it helps to locate.
Nope, it's entirely in house. It's also not really "your" location per se (unless you're letting other people track YOU in Find My) - your iPhone will be sending the approximate location of the Air Tag.I'm not worried about anyone else's phone, per se, my concern lay with Apple deciding to volunteer an individual's location to someone or some agency based on crowdsourced tracking.
Nope, it's entirely in house. It's also not really "your" location per se (unless you're letting other people track YOU in Find My) - your iPhone will be sending the approximate location of the Air Tag.
Heh...much safer in this ecosystem than Android. Google watches EVERYTHING.I'm certain the tracking is "in house". The issue is when you're already renting a room at the house (iCloud) and enjoying the amenities, and the owner (Apple) of that house decides that they're going to hand the keys over to someone who doesn't play nice.
But I guess I should clarify this: my objection isn't to the AirTag, but rather the depth of Apple's tracking abilities revealed by this thing. They didn't suddenly come up with the crowdsourced tracking to implement the Tag. Its always been there, but now with the release of the Tag, crowd track is front and center. I guess they felt it was better to hide it in plain sight, and reassure people it can't be used against them, because Apple said so.
Surely an individual’s location is wherever their phone is, not where some AirTag is, and you don’t need the FindMy network for locating phones - the phone has GPS and cellular of its own. FindMy (and AirTags) add nothing to the theoretical ability of Apple to track your location and pass that information on.I'm not worried about anyone else's phone, per se, my concern lay with Apple deciding to volunteer an individual's location to someone or some agency based on crowdsourced tracking.
Heh...much safer in this ecosystem than Android. Google watches EVERYTHING.
Yes, there's always potential for bad actors to create problems. That's never going to go away.
And if some of this is paranoia about government oversight...lawful access gave the Feds the keys to the kingdom a long time ago. Best to shrug it off.
Surely an individual’s location is wherever their phone is, not where some AirTag is, and you don’t need the FindMy network for locating phones - the phone has GPS and cellular of its own. FindMy (and AirTags) add nothing to the theoretical ability of Apple to track your location and pass that information on.
Fair enough, hadn’t occurred to me that iPhones etc would be doing the message exchange too (the same way AirTags do), but that makes sense. So your concern is that this always on communication system (whereby your iPhone is regularly trying to contact other nearby iPhones) presents hackers with a new attack vector?See my previous post: this crowd sourced tracking has now spread to Watches, Macs, iDevices. When they can't join cellular or Wifi they get picked up by this Find My mesh net. Thats right from the main Find My page.
Saw this on Etsy - https://www.etsy.com/listing/990917...=sr_gallery-1-24&organic_search_click=1&frs=1We use Roku remotes on all five TVs in our house. They have a little fabric tag that's the perfect place to attach a key ring.
Fair enough, hadn’t occurred to me that iPhones etc would be doing the message exchange too (the same way AirTags do), but that makes sense. So your concern is that this always on communication system (whereby your iPhone is regularly trying to contact other nearby iPhones) presents hackers with a new attack vector?
They don't. It doesn't work how you made up it does.I'm not worried about anyone else's phone, per se, my concern lay with Apple deciding to volunteer an individual's location to someone or some agency based on crowdsourced tracking.
The Find My network has been going for a decade, doing exactly this. They don't "volunteer an individual's location", they securely report back the location of the thing you're looking for. And they certainly don't report it to "someone or some agency".I'm not worried about anyone else's phone, per se, my concern lay with Apple deciding to volunteer an individual's location to someone or some agency based on crowdsourced tracking.
Not even just an iPhone as Android devices will also pick them up once in lost mode.That's not quite right for two reasons:
1) It doesn't have to be you in range of it, just somebody with an iPhone.
2) If nobody's in range of it you'll see its last known location, which is likely to be its current location since most things it might be moving on (eg public transport) are likely to also have iPhones on them.
So they're actually very useful when you're not in range.
No, they will not.Not even just an iPhone as Android devices will also pick them up once in lost mode.
Maybe his remote was out in the wild? We may never know!So your answer is really no.
No. Nevertheless I got 4 of them today, as I do find it a very interesting addition to "my" ecosystem. I want to try, what it could be good for as object tracker. I can think about or I just can try it, use it, or give it up...Still nobody then?
Good to know that! Still waiting for the Belkin holders although they were supposed to come before the Airtags that are already here.The Belkin holder is rigid and I think it’s very unlikely that the AirTag will drop out of it.