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I don’t agree either, phone upgrades seem pretty normal in numbers among the people I know, some do and some don’t. As a previous post said, keeping phones longer is in Apple’s business plan and there’s something to be said for that, if you keep it longer you don’t have the opportunity to switch brands lol.

Anyway, Apple will always push the envelope because today’s advanced features are tomorrow’s low-end features. I’m pretty sure they’re not going to stop development or even slow down, they’re going wide open into the future. You might be happy with an iPhone 6 or 7 today, but you probably won’t be in 2-3 years (if you frequent tech forums). If you’re not interested in technology, there’s no reason to ever upgrade until the phone dies.

As I’ve said before, a 1994 Motorola StarTAC is more expensive in today’s dollars (it was initially priced at $1000 and sold quite well, I had one) than a 512 XS Max iPhone. So yes, tech is cheaper than chips today but if you don’t need or want the expensive features buy a cheaper phone - there are lots of them to choose from.

Another reason that Apple will push even harder on hardware is to enable new features. A frequent comment on how badly the competition fails in benchmarks goes something like ‘but phone Y is just as fast’ and it may well feel that way even though it isn’t. One of the main purposes of more powerful hardware is to enable more features in the future even if those are not available today. Before long, Qualcomm and their dependents will not be able to produce new phones with the features that Apple will have.

That said, I’m not against Android or anyone else for that matter - it’s just an operating system - and I like Samsung’s electronics quite a lot. I do not like Google’s (or Facebook’s) TOU or privacy policies, so I don’t use any of their ‘properties’. If they don’t bother you, all’s well.
 
Most phones will run the suite of social media apps, that's enough to keep people from upgrading. Paid services are the future I think.
 
Apple doesn’t seem to be worried about the number of people upgrading.

I honestly think carrier will jack up prices but give deals on new phones locking customers in for years.
 
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Apple doesn’t seem to be worried about the number of people upgrading.

I honestly think carrier will jack up prices but give deals on new phones locking customers in for years.

Now that’s an interesting comment!
[doublepost=1540072043][/doublepost]Here’s a bit of a thought, business models. Apple is a hardware company. Google is an advertising company. Apple has to improve hardware enough to get you to upgrade on some frequency. Once Google has slurped all your data, they have no compelling reason to invest 10s to 100s of millions of dollars to improve hardware. Why would they? It isn’t their business.
 
Foldable display

Still have no idea how this is going to work well... and why anyone would want a foldable display phone. But I'll let Apple figure it out and convince us this is the next must have thing!
 
Sorry, but I love the new smart HDR. Love the gaming performance. No lag or frame drop with sustained gameplay.

I don’t need to justify. Sorry if you feel inferior and need to justify your position in life. Just saying.

nope, i don't feel inferior.

i'm just not a sheep and don't need to buy a new $1000 phone every year cause apple tells me to.

the rich get richer and you get poorer cause you wanna stunt your pics on instagram which no one gives a flying **** about lmao
 
nope, i don't feel inferior.

i'm just not a sheep and don't need to buy a new $1000 phone every year cause apple tells me to.

the rich get richer and you get poorer cause you wanna stunt your pics on instagram which no one gives a flying **** about lmao

So angry you are. So sad at the jealousy of some folks. Keep up the good fight man!
 
There isn’t a single XS or even X where I work in an office of 45+ people and to me it feels like having the latest iPhone has become less of a demand in recent years.
You shouldn’t think of the X and XS as Apples newest iPhones. These are luxus versions of the iPhone normal working people will never buy. The 8 and XR are Apples newest iPhones. Whereas the 8 and 8+ are almost indistinguishable from older phones, the colorful XR should become recognizable very soon. Within the next six months at least a few people in your office should have an XR. If not and they keep buying the iPhone 7 instead for $449, then you’re right and technological progress in the UK has stopped.
 
Still have no idea how this is going to work well... and why anyone would want a foldable display phone. But I'll let Apple figure it out and convince us this is the next must have thing!

I think they are going with the idea of a normal size phone that folds out to a mini iPad to watch stuff. Samsung’s looks ugly as hell.
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Isn't that a horrible deal when you think about it? You're spending half the value of the phone to "rent" it for only a year.

Yup, it is. But Better than spending it on my wife!:D:D:D
 
lol, no not angry whatsoever.

i just cringe at people justifying their purchases to strangers. if they really didn't care then they wouldn't have to talk about it..

b-b-buttttt my friends on instagram need to KNOW that i have a new iPhone!!!!!!!!11

Hellz ya, if you have a fine ass wife ur going to parade her around and post about her. But in the real world we all have fat ugly ones so we post abut our kids and never go anywhere..:D
 
When the very 1st iPhone in 2007 came out, I have been upgrading to a new iPhone every year, and then after every 2 years when the iPhone 4 came out. Now after the iPhone 6 was when I stopped caring so much about having the latest and greatest. I went from an iPhone 6 Plus to the Xs Max. That's 4 years. I certainly see no need to upgrade as much anymore. Mobile technology has plateaued, and I will most likely be hanging on to my Xs Max for at least 4-5 years until I upgrade. Which is usually how long I upgrade my computers.
 
When the very 1st iPhone in 2007 came out, I have been upgrading to a new iPhone every year, and then after every 2 years when the iPhone 4 came out. Now after the iPhone 6 was when I stopped caring so much about having the latest and greatest. I went from an iPhone 6 Plus to the Xs Max. That's 4 years. I certainly see no need to upgrade as much anymore. Mobile technology has plateaued, and I will most likely be hanging on to my Xs Max for at least 4-5 years until I upgrade. Which is usually how long I upgrade my computers.
I hope you realize how wasteful your upgrade strategy really is. You bought most of your iPhones when they lost their value the fastest and you stopped spending so much just as they started to hold their value longer. You definitely got the most bang out of those early years, but your bang for the buck ratio is awful.
 
Ive had every iPhone since the 3g upgrading every two years till the 6+ then got put on the yearly plan and I've had the X for a year(just returned my Xs max).
Seems like With everyone I know upgrading seems completely different then it did a few years ago. Most of my friends have 1-4 year old phones usually. plenty of 7 and 6s people I know still not caring to upgrade. Same with androids not many people have the latest and greatest.
Who else thinks that the rise of phone prices has gone up just because of this reason? Less upgrading means higher prices phones to keep manufactures happy but it definitely feels like less and less people are caring to have the latest phones because phones. Phones have gotten so good that most people dont feel a huge upgrade year after year anymore. Its not like 2010 anymore and things loaded slow, apps took a few seconds to open ect... The 3g was pretty bad. Using safari was horrible most things would crack and things just wouldn't work or very slowly. What will manufacturers come up with to keep people upgrading every year or two? Technology has definitely tapered off.

Notch, weight, prices, iPhones now are way too bigger to carry on. I want 4.5” full screen iPhone without notch.
 
Just purchased a refurb 128gb iPhone 7 from the Apple website, upgrading from my SE simply because the SE's screen was becoming more difficult to see. Runs perfect for me, as did the SE. The only complaint other than the SE's screen was the rapidly diminishing battery life.

I've purchased quite a few refurbed products from Apple and have always found them to be a better value.
 
if you're okay with losing 600$ a year then thats ok. The resale value on iPhones is pretty crap now since the 1000$ phones. Selling the X I have has been the biggest headache ever. Never had an issue before with selling iPhones for a reasonable value.

Why it was headache to sell iPhone X?
 
I hope you realize how wasteful your upgrade strategy really is. You bought most of your iPhones when they lost their value the fastest and you stopped spending so much just as they started to hold their value longer. You definitely got the most bang out of those early years, but your bang for the buck ratio is awful.

I never had a problem reselling my older phones, in fact I got most of my money back on resale and plus it doesn't matter anymore, what's done is done. I'm not going to spend $1000+ on an upgrade every 1-2 years like I used to is what I'm saying. Phones cost as much as computers these days. Times have changed, and so have I.
 
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Hellz ya, if you have a fine ass wife ur going to parade her around and post about her. But in the real world we all have fat ugly ones so we post abut our kids and never go anywhere..:D
Damn you! That explains so much! :eek:o_O:D
 
Cutting edge tech has always been expensive. Look at what premium desktop memory cost in 1998-2000. Look it up.

Some of us are complaining that we can’t get 2018 technology at the bottom 10% prices of 10 years ago.
 
Waiting for a iphone mini. Footprint of the 8 with full screen. Long lasting batery life and a battery that doesnt degrade fast but can go on for a few years begore starting to degrade. I dont ask for impossible thing do i.
 
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Phones cost as much as computers these days. Times have changed, and so have I.
Phones have always been computers. And they’ve always cost as much as computers.

$649 iPhone 5s (16GB)
$649 iPhone 6 (16GB)
$749 iPhone 6+ (16GB)
$649 iPhone 6s (16GB)
$749 iPhone 6s+ (16GB)
$649 iPhone 7 (32GB)
$769 iPhone 7+ (32GB)
$699 iPhone 8 (64GB)
$799 iPhone 8+ (64GB)
$749 iPhone XR (64GB)

If anything the price has come down to where it was with the first plus-sized iPhone.
 
Phones have always been computers. And they’ve always cost as much as computers.

$649 iPhone 5s (16GB)
$649 iPhone 6 (16GB)
$749 iPhone 6+ (16GB)
$649 iPhone 6s (16GB)
$749 iPhone 6s+ (16GB)
$649 iPhone 7 (32GB)
$769 iPhone 7+ (32GB)
$699 iPhone 8 (64GB)
$799 iPhone 8+ (64GB)
$749 iPhone XR (64GB)

If anything the price has come down to where it was with the first plus-sized iPhone.

I’d give this three thumbs up if I could.
 
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You shouldn’t think of the X and XS as Apples newest iPhones. These are luxus versions of the iPhone normal working people will never buy. The 8 and XR are Apples newest iPhones. Whereas the 8 and 8+ are almost indistinguishable from older phones, the colorful XR should become recognizable very soon. Within the next six months at least a few people in your office should have an XR. If not and they keep buying the iPhone 7 instead for $449, then you’re right and technological progress in the UK has stopped.
I wouldn’t say the XS and X are luxurious versions that ‘normal working people would never buy’ as that’s a bit far fetched. Nobody I work with is poorly paid and a £1k device is not out of reach it’s just clearly not desired in general. I don’t think you can really judge these phones on wealth as my wife’s cousin owns an XS Max and puts batteries in boxes for a living on minimum wage. He’s clearly a normal working person but perhaps the only person I know currently with this years device so far. Most people in my office are in iPhone 7’s and 8’s and a lot of that is to do with the deals currently offered by carriers.

It’s not technological progress that has stopped in the UK, it’s the price some companies are charging for their products that are putting people off.
 
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Phones have always been computers. And they’ve always cost as much as computers.

$649 iPhone 5s (16GB)
$649 iPhone 6 (16GB)
$749 iPhone 6+ (16GB)
$649 iPhone 6s (16GB)
$749 iPhone 6s+ (16GB)
$649 iPhone 7 (32GB)
$769 iPhone 7+ (32GB)
$699 iPhone 8 (64GB)
$799 iPhone 8+ (64GB)
$749 iPhone XR (64GB)

If anything the price has come down to where it was with the first plus-sized iPhone.

Phones have always been computer? No they haven't. Even til this day, there is no mobile phone that can replace a full fledged computer. Yeah they may offer a lot of apps that can mimick what one might do on a computer, but the experience is hardly on par with a computer. Phones these days are more than phones but a mini-computer, I can agree with that. But to say phones have always been like a computer is not true at all. anything under $1000, and I don't consider it to cost as much as a computer. But anything thats at or above that range, then it's clearly into the range of costing as much as a decent computer.
 
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