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Discussion in 'Apple, Inc and Tech Industry' started by lugesm, Apr 14, 2008.
The web site is working. Just wondered if they are actually shipping anything other than promises.
The first person who does should get banned. I'm joking, of course.
OR AM I.
It might be neat to pick one up in three years when they're $75 on eBay.
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I think it would be cool to get one
but I wouldn't want to deal with all of the problems that would likely arise
I would be surprised if any hardware ever ships.
I'll wait until they're actually shipping and maybe a little cheaper and grab one for the wife (who is still using an old Dell)... I'll likely put 10.4.11 on it to reduce the issues with updating, etc. (Then again, could you buy an Intel/UB Tiger disc retail ever? On the other hand, my iMac came with 10.4, and I bought 10.5 with a full license, so in theory I have an available 10.4 license)...
Is that true? I bought an iMac in September of last year with 10.4, then bought the 10.5 disk when it came out. Could I use 10.4 on different hardware . . . . legally?
If these Psystar machines were legal I would buy one just to play with. BUT, I would never use one as my primary computing machine; that job will only be trusted to my iMac.
the legality could be questionable but if you only have one computer running on 1 license at 1 time than you should be okay
I, for one, am very curious about these machines. I wonder if this will begin another clone battle, and if more reputable retailers might follow suit (Acer, Averatec, etc.)
Updates are Apple's #1 defense against such clones, and I believe there will soon be some other hardware deterrent to discourage non-apple rigs from running OS X. But, for now, I think it's ability to run the current release of OS X is marvelous for those not yet prepared to lose the ability to upgrade while keeping their wallets semi-fat.
This is not another clone battle. Back then clones were officially endorsed by Apple, this is the complete opposite. None of the companies you mentioned would ever pull what this company has. Look at Dell, Michael Dell has been asking Apple to license (note the word license) OS X to put on Dell machines for years. It hasn't happened yet, and I wouldn't ever expect it to.
Yeah, but the good folks in the OSX86 scene have figured out ways to use the vanilla kernel and an EFI emulator, with a Core 2 processor, updates dont break the box anymore.
Its not possible for Apple to add anymore protection to OS X without breaking current macs. They would have done this already, OSx86 has been around since the first intel developer machines were released for testing. The hackers know what it will take to break their workarounds, and they know that doing this will screw up real macs as well.
If they do start seriously selling these things then I imagine the backorder will be insane.
The disks that came with your Intel Mac will only install on an Intel Mac AND only install on the 'type' of machine that the disks came with.
And Apple never sold a 10.4 Intell (only PPC) to the best of my knowledge.
It's not a matter of legality, it's a matter of compatibility. See above statement.
To get an Intel copy of 10.4 that will install you'd have to get a modded iso from a torrent site.
Not true. The could go the MS way of legitimizing the OS. Requiring online validation of CD Keys and getting an Auth key much like installing Windows. This is something Mac users were grateful for Apple not doing.
They could if they wanted to (and it might stir up a few users) put into place said validation and if a non Apple branded machine was used, it would return a "Sorry, buy a damn Mac you moron!" and not auth the installation. Of course hackers would find a way around that as they do with Windows.
So it wouldn't break the current Macs, but would cripple the clones.
Frankly IMO if thats what they had to do, then by all means do it. Flame me if you wish but OS X was built for Apple computers. The same can be said for OS's that only ran on SPARC processors (unix). I owned a hackintosh at one time to get familiar with OS X before I bought my iMac, I'll admit it. Then took it off once I bought my iMac. I gotta tell you it was hell getting it set up.
OS X was built for Macs, let it be. Otherwise bring back the PPC processors then there wouldn't be any problem of clones.
I just put 2147 (the max I could order) of the highest spec OpenPros in my cart, made an account, selected my shipping and exited during the payment method. See what they do when they see that order on hold.
Remind me not to piss you off EVIL!!!!!
I LIKE IT!
Honestly I think it's retarded. Get a damn life. And to think, someone actually thought this was a good idea? You talk about elitism here, like because you own a true Macintosh you're better - but yet you do childish crap like this.
Probably the first order was placed by an agent working for Apple.
The first person that posts that they have one of these or even worse does an unboxing gallery Im going to report!!! lol
Actually I cant wait until someone does an unboxing. Im going to rip them and then report them. Fun for all I say, fun for all....
And you think this is going to do what? Make you look like a jacka**, is what it will do. They paid money for a product -- they BOUGHT a machine, and for doing so you think they need to be banned?
Wow. Got some real nice folks in here.
I've ordered one, now let's see if it actually goes through
Yea some real nice folk, im sure your just the epitome of perfectness though arent you?
I know, tell me about it
I haven't and have no plans to. A Mac isn't a Mac without the Apple logo.
Someone else with some common sense. Even though apparently we are being shafted severly buying into the whole Apple thing, like before the Open Mac arrived it was ok, now there is some strange alternative we are all instantly being shafted. What on earth....
I use the above post to respond to the above post.
I never felt I got shafted paying the price I did for a Mac either with my iMac or my MB. I look at them as investments. They have better resale value than say a Dell 1501. That's just my opinion. Besides, we have only ourselves to blame for buying them. No one held a gun to our head let alone Apple and said "buy this!" we bought it. We can't say we were shafted when we willingly shelled out the money. If we honestly felt the price was to high, we would have bought something else. If someone felt it was to high and handed money over calling Apple overpriced bastards, well that person is a flat out idiot.
I bought a Mac, I spent the money, and DAMMIT I'm proud and happy I did. Sure my checkbook isn't happy, but dammit it's mine
Honestly I couldn't say I use OS X unless it was with a real Mac, anything else would be "I'm a hacker"
To each his own. I like the idea of running OS X on cheaper hardware. I just want to know why you're fighting so hard to put more of your money in someone else's pocket - and why you seem to think that because you do, everyone else has to as well.