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Don't be a chump, Dadedi. Why would you risk him retaliating against you? You already know he is an impostor, a liar and a fraud... so there's not much limitation on what he could try if he were motivated to get back at you. While you are a law abiding person, he is already beyond the pale. Plus he probably has access to way more ways to $*^@ you over than you do.
And would you leave your self open to a charge of committing wire fraud yourself?
Talk to the BBB guy BEFORE you do anything.
Even better, delete the emails and walk away.

Thanks for your advice guys. I decided to stop it. These guys are really had core scammers. They have these fake postal codes in the UK. They sent a post code that belongs to an area in LEEDS England while they had an address in Aberdeen Scotland. What makes it a joke is that my cousin lives in this area. I couldn't believe it!
 
wow, this guy doesn't seem to change his routine... glad I checked it out reference. Keebler, he even used the exact same wording, when I saw that in your message, I knew it was a scam!:D

Whoever they are, they haven't got a clue about the English language. I suspect and have been reliably informed that these guys may be based outside North America. Mostly probably they are Eastern European. A couple of weeks ago, some were nabbed operating in the UK, they were from the Balkan states.
 
ok, i just sent him an email. I told him that I sent my cousin in atlanta the money thru paypal so he can give it directly to paySafe. I have a feeling Ralf is gonna reply that he sold the bike elsewhere. It just makes me upset that there are people who does scams like this and actually gets away with it. He did give me his address, but i bet it's also fake. Agent Mulder, here's a project for you!

Seller Details:
Ralf Strombol
96 Mount Street
London
W1Y 5HG
United Kingdom

Agent Details:
Sean Mcwilliam
322 Kings Road
London
SW3 5UH
United Kingdom

Hey man!, I got the same postal code


Hill Roberts
96 Mount Street
Aberdeen
W1Y 5HG
Country:
United Kingdom





Clark Mitchell
322 Kings Road
Aberdeen
LS8 1QU
United Kingdom

I have a funny feeling this is the same guy!!!! This guy must be a millionaire by now having sold the same bike to hundreds of people on craiglist :D
 
thank you for this thread! got a similar--who am i kidding almost the same--email for a BMW f650 bike on craigslist. the email i got is laughably similar to the others posted here:

Hi,
There are 8000 miles on it, engine size cc: (650) run perfect, the bike is in great condition with only minor scratches, never dropped. It has clear title and the price I will sell it for is $2, 750.00. which is including all the shipping charges.
I live in Boston but currently I am with work in United Kingdom ( Reading ) for the next approximately 2 years. Anyway, there shouldn't be any problem, because I am using PaySafe services so I can sell the bike without difficulty.
I left the bike in their custody before leaving overseas. They will take care of the delivery. There's a 10 days return policy so you will have the chance to test, inspect and ride it before final decision.
So if you want to purchase it, let me know and I will explain you how PaySafe works and how we can move forward.
I am waiting your email.
Thanks

i found this thread my doing a "paysafe" search because the whole thing sounded fishy in a "too good to be true" kind of way. i'm actually going ot be in the UK this weekend for a wedding and told the guy i wanted to meet up and get teh scoop in person. i also said i wanted to pick up the merch myself.

my next correspondance will be to ic3.gov. thanks again.
 
Someone tried this **** on me.. Except it was a 15" 2.33ghz MBP + Black 30g iPod for $900 CAD. He said the exact same thing.. Even had same bad english. Seems that this is either the same one person or a group of people.. Because they go through lots of trouble to do this. He sent me pictures of the sealed boxes upon request. I think this guy creates fake shipping websites.. He told me he lived in the UK and he gave me this bogus website. It even had a tracking number system and all. It was deffinately a scam.. I noticed this when there had been "feedback" articles on people who've apprently used this company before, and noticed that there were two identical ones, with only the item they sold the only word changed. I probably should have known right at the beginning that this was a scam, but that woke me up. I guess I was lucky I caught that myself..
 
My paySafe scammer has mysteriously decided to not sell her Apple MacBook Pro before going to the UK for just 3 months, nor after her imminent return. She also has a rather unusual way of spelling her name: Jeniffer.

Anyway, my little Aussie scammer offers a 14-day return, not 10, so there!:D
 
Awesome! Another piece of **** tried to scam me.

Not using PaySafe, but they're kind of similar..

Here's what they wrote :

hey jeff,
I would like to receive 2000cd from you but i am in new york now for an important meeting and i would like to send the laptop to you from here because of high demand from clients all the places.
I would like you to pay the money by western union to a bishop in west africa so as to avoid double payment i have to send the money down there for missionary work and for GOD's work.
So, his information is this
name: oyadeyi kehinde
address: 25, iwo road,
city: ibadan
state: oyo
country: nigeria
code: 23402.
I would like to receive your full address and full name that i will send the mac book pro to. after you have made the payment send me all the information you used to send the money including MTCN and security question and answer.
The macbook pro would be send out to you immediately i receive this information from you. You can deduct the commission from the money and send me the rest.

N.B.
send me the following information.

your full name and full address
MTCN
security question and answer
amount sent.
thank you so much for your interest and wish to hyear from you soon.
yours sandra.

I put in bold some of the things they changed from what was originally discussed in a previous e-mail.

The first was a 2.4ghz MacBook Pro 15inch model costing $2000 Canadian. It was originally $2000 US before this e-mail. That's about a $150 Price difference loss.

At the end, the name signed was Sandra. It's funny, because in her e-mail her name changed from Laurel John. (Attatched a screenshot of the original e-mail)

And don't you think this story is hilarious? Sending the money to a bishop in Africa... And doing GOD'S work. Well, if she's doing missionary work for God in Africa, then she couldn't possibly be lying.

BTW anyone who wants to use their e-mail for some purpose go ahead.. The original name and e-mail is:

laurel john @ simplejilow@yahoo.com

P.S.. This ad was found on Kijiji classifieds in the Vancouver section.

Be weary..
 
Yes, I could trace you by e-mail address.

I've actually avoided several deals and discovered potential frauds by simply checking an e-mail address on the Internet.

Nothing you do on the Internet is untraceable unless you go through enough hoops to cover yourself.

How do you do this?
 
How do you do this?

It is good that you want to know. It's always best to be educated in the ways of the Internet.

Unfortunately, this is not something that can be explained in a 1, 2, 3 type of fashion. It is something that requires some research, some understanding, and some practice.

If you really want to learn the intimate details of tracing someone over the Internet, I would recommend getting your hands on some good and very detailed "hacking" books (they are out there).

Sometimes though, it can be as simple as a web search by e-mail address and just following the information that comes up. If the person has not maintained strict privacy measures, then you can often gain a lot in just that one simple step.

Put their e-mail address into a search engine. See what comes up. If you get a phone number, address, name, or other information, put that into a search engine as well. See what comes up there. Each piece of information may bring up other pieces of information.

That's a simple method to start with.

As for all the other tricks, I don't think that there is enough space on the forum to write it all down. But, you can find most of the information in books on "hacking", hacking websites, and hacking groups. Just be careful where you go, because entering some hacking circles or sites may just be extending an invitation for them to "play" with you. So, choose your destinations carefully.
 
Paysafe

im from australia n dis idiot on gumtree.com jus snt me d exact same email as most of u hav recieved!
god damn he must be makin loadz of dough frm d ppl who actually fall for it!!!
to think i was almost goin to buy a 50 inch plasma for $1800, n oh yea he's working in the U.K for the next 3 mnths!!! sm funny dumass he is!!!
 
im from australia n dis idiot on gumtree.com jus snt me d exact same email as most of u hav recieved!
god damn he must be makin loadz of dough frm d ppl who actually fall for it!!!
to think i was almost goin to buy a 50 inch plasma for $1800, n oh yea he's working in the U.K for the next 3 mnths!!! sm funny dumass he is!!!

Somewhere a mad jew is weeping.
 
Someone tried this **** on me.. Except it was a 15" 2.33ghz MBP + Black 30g iPod for $900 CAD. He said the exact same thing.. Even had same bad english. Seems that this is either the same one person or a group of people.. Because they go through lots of trouble to do this. He sent me pictures of the sealed boxes upon request. I think this guy creates fake shipping websites.. He told me he lived in the UK and he gave me this bogus website. It even had a tracking number system and all. It was deffinately a scam.. I noticed this when there had been "feedback" articles on people who've apprently used this company before, and noticed that there were two identical ones, with only the item they sold the only word changed. I probably should have known right at the beginning that this was a scam, but that woke me up. I guess I was lucky I caught that myself..

Please watch your mouth and next time you criticize someone's use of the English language, try to use it correctly yourself. It gives you a little more legitimacy and credibility.
 
ya i got this same bullsh<*% so i sent him an email with this thred as a link then told him it was my shiping info.i bet it is the last i hear from him/her/it
 
Sorry, but, as the FAQ says, I cannot originate a thread in this group. Considering its nature, that's patently absurd. However, rules be rules, so…

SCAM - Apple Mac Pro 2 x 2.66GHz Xeon, 6GB RAM, 4 x HDs 1.75TB - $1600 - SCAM

This forum was my first real confirmation that this is a SCAM. The sellers address is IDENTICAL to that mentioned in the Thread, has anyone heard of paysafe?:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/281080/

I can’t thank you enough!

However the creep still got away with my name, mailing address, and phone number. Beyond that, I permitted him to set cookies in order that I could read his “receipts” from what was purported to be “moneybookers”, the address of which was stated to be “financial@merchantservices-moneybookers-ltd.com”

The cookies are, copying from screensnapz:
Folder: 2o7.net
Cookie Names within that folder:
s_vi_xxjx7Cx7Bjx7Dazafx60azx7Cx3D
s_vi_ewafwx60x7Cgx7Cx7Bx7Dx7Cux7Ex7Dpsx7E
s_vi_dvx60gvax7Dfx7zx7Cx7Dcx7Cagrx7Fx21

and

Folder: yahoo.com
Cookie Names within that folder:
HP
B

Next is the tip-off — notice the seller’s address is identical to that pasted into the Forum Thread linked above:

Seller Details:

First Name:

Brad

Last Name:

Tedem
Street:

96 Mount Street
City:

London
Zip code:


W1Y 5HG
Country:


United Kingdom



MoneyBookers Agent Details:

You have to send the payment to:
First Name:

Steven

Last Name:

Reible
Street:

22 Howson Road
City:
London
Zip code:

SE4 2AS
Country:


United Kingdom
How to make payment?

1. Locate the nearest Western Union Office

2. Make the payment with cash using the above MoneyBookers agent details

3. When the payment is made, email us the following information:


-10 digit MTCN (Money Transfer Control Number)


-Exact sender's name on file with Western Union


-Your street address on file with Western Union


-City and country where you sent the money from

-Amount sent


financial@merchantservices-moneybookers-ltd.com


_____________________________________________



I’m posting to this particular forum because the thread with the SAME seller’s address was originally posted here.

The scammer’s original post, as of last night, may be found on Craig’s List at the following address, though I haven’t checked to see whether it’s still there: http://raleigh.craigslist.org/sys/586878372.html

Of course, I’m feeling like day old fish.
 
This A$$ got me

Man where were you guys about four days ago. I am currently in Iraq on tour here and got exited when I saw this ad on craigslist about an R6 for sale. I contacted him and we began our transaction through MoneyBookers. I looked up money bookers and it is an actual company. Wish I had done more research on him though because turns out the "agent" he was using does not and never has worked for this company. So I have filed a complaint with IC3 and SD police department, but after reading this, I would love to find this guy. SO if anyone can help me track this ******, it would be much appreciated. He got $3000 of my hard earned money.
Thanks for any help,
Sonny
Baghdad, Iraq.
 
Man where were you guys about four days ago. I am currently in Iraq on tour here and got exited when I saw this ad on craigslist about an R6 for sale. I contacted him and we began our transaction through MoneyBookers. I looked up money bookers and it is an actual company. Wish I had done more research on him though because turns out the "agent" he was using does not and never has worked for this company. So I have filed a complaint with IC3 and SD police department, but after reading this, I would love to find this guy. SO if anyone can help me track this ******, it would be much appreciated. He got $3000 of my hard earned money.
Thanks for any help,
Sonny
Baghdad, Iraq.

Are you serious? I don't think I've ever heard from someone who actually admitted to getting tricked by one of these...

Wow. Here's the hard sad reality. The police/ic3/fbi are NEVER going to get your money back.

However, not all is lost. If you paid with a credit card or bank account, your bank probably offers some sort of protection. Contact them, let them know that you were victim of a scam and see if it is possible to do a charge back or reversal on the transaction.
 
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