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Easy to blame 10.6 (and understandable). But there are too many on it now without serious problems.

I did a SL upgrade, right over 10.5.8. Other than some minor application quirks, all is Ok. But I'm not a power user and don't have all that stupid 3rd party crap installed like the "tweak geeks" around here.

Tweak Geeks! HA!

BTW, my install of SL was smooth sailing, but then I just did it yesterday and made sure to remove any apps that were "blacklisted" on the snow leopard compatibility wiki prior to the upgrade. I used it for a several hours afterwards and do not plan on going back to 10.5.
 
I had to switch back to 10.5.8 (via a clone) momentarily to update a Nikon application whose installer didn't work properly in 10.6 (the Nikon app works fine in 10.6 as long as it was updated in 10.5). So after recloning my system to 10.5.8, I updated the Nikon software, and then re-ran the Snow Leopard upgrade. All (including the Nikon app) is working well on my 10.6 system.
 
Pefect install on 3 diffeent machines: Macbook Pro Unibody, iMac Alu, and Mac Mini

Everything just works!

PS: I did CLEAN/FRESH installs, then added my apps.

Best OS X ever! Enjoying Snow Leopard 😀
how did you add them, with time machine and migration assistant, or manually?
 
I was an hour away from switching back this weekend before I happened to find a program that fixed a program that had stopped working with the "upgrade." If not for that, I'd be typing this from Leopard.
 
how did you add them, with time machine and migration assistant, or manually?


Manually. I always like to start FRESH when it's a complete OS revision.
There's always the odd debris, the odd App, the odd extention/plugin or whatever that is going to interfere. So starting out fresh and clean gives me an opportunity to do some major housekeeping, and also to ensure there is NOTHING likely to interfere with a complete OS install.

You always tend to realise at this stage how much cra@p you accumulate that you don't really need, and hence save hundreds and hundreds of MB in space.

Obviously, when there's just .point upgrades, I don't bother. But it had been some time since I installed Leopard, so installing Snow Leopard from fresh in my view was a must.

I am amazed as to how fab it really is, and amazed about the problems others are having.

Also, I have found that nearly *most* apps by now have been updated by the developers. Not that made any difference to me, because I fresh installed from day one release.

Just a reminder for others, I now have it on a macmini, macbook pro unibody, and also imac alu. All working great! 😀
 
I'm going back to 10.5 on my Mini for the time being.

I can't get the resolutions to play nice with my TV.
 
I'm tempted to go back to Leopard. Since installing 10.6 I've seen the spinning beachball more than ever, and the file type attributions problem is driving me crazy (see my thread on that regarding .rar and .cbr files). I haven't had any crashes, kernel panics, or applications unexpectedly quit, but the generally horrible performance is a real drag. Plus I seem to be having issues with Time Machine - whenever a back-up kicks off, the whole machine locks for a few seconds and I get the spinning beachball. This also happens when I get any open file dialogue boxes - it seems waking the external harddrive takes a long time and the entire machine becomes unresponsive while I does so.

None of this was an issue in Leopard.
 
Tweak Geeks! HA!

BTW, my install of SL was smooth sailing, but then I just did it yesterday and made sure to remove any apps that were "blacklisted" on the snow leopard compatibility wiki prior to the upgrade. I used it for a several hours afterwards and do not plan on going back to 10.5.

That is pretty much what I did with the exception of CS3 suite. I think this has a lot do do with the install going ok or the install going to crap.
 
Manually. I always like to start FRESH when it's a complete OS revision.
There's always the odd debris, the odd App, the odd extention/plugin or whatever that is going to interfere. So starting out fresh and clean gives me an opportunity to do some major housekeeping, and also to ensure there is NOTHING likely to interfere with a complete OS install.

You always tend to realise at this stage how much cra@p you accumulate that you don't really need, and hence save hundreds and hundreds of MB in space.

Obviously, when there's just .point upgrades, I don't bother. But it had been some time since I installed Leopard, so installing Snow Leopard from fresh in my view was a must.

I am amazed as to how fab it really is, and amazed about the problems others are having.

Also, I have found that nearly *most* apps by now have been updated by the developers. Not that made any difference to me, because I fresh installed from day one release.

Just a reminder for others, I now have it on a macmini, macbook pro unibody, and also imac alu. All working great! 😀

I understand why you watn to do a fresh install, but let me tell people something: average Joe at work or home don't even know what that is.
They buy a DVD from Apple, put it in the computer and then it says: Install.
They click on install, FOLLOWING APPLE'S ADVICE, and they end up with a buggy computer. So now you guys tell me it is their fault?. They just followed manufacturers instructions!!. I f this is causing so many problems, how come you all now this and Apple experts, the ones who design the computer and the software, don't know about it?. Why does not Apple directly use another type of installation by default?.
Truth is, Apple's default installation is what it is, and it seems to be causing a lot of problems to people. So please, don't come here saying is their fault on top of that.
 
I understand why you watn to do a fresh install, but let me tell people something: average Joe at work or home don't even know what that is.
They buy a DVD from Apple, put it in the computer and then it says: Install.
They click on install, FOLLOWING APPLE'S ADVICE, and they end up with a buggy computer. So now you guys tell me it is their fault?. They just followed manufacturers instructions!!. I f this is causing so many problems, how come you all now this and Apple experts, the ones who design the computer and the software, don't know about it?. Why does not Apple directly use another type of installation by default?.
Truth is, Apple's default installation is what it is, and it seems to be causing a lot of problems to people. So please, don't come here saying is their fault on top of that.

Apple's default installation (an Archive and Install now) works great for the average user. Those who are having trouble with it are those who've installed a bunch of crap on their system (like me) and they should be capable of troubleshooting those problems themselves if they're going to load up their computers the way they do. I've had significant problems on my laptop, probably because I did just use Apple's default installation but I likely have things running that aren't truly SL-compatible. However, I haven't come here complaining about it because I'm intelligent enough to know that if I load up a bunch of junk on my computer and then update something that all of the other stuff depends on, I'm probably going to have problems. Apple's defaults work for most of the people that don't even know how to come on these forums looking for help, and that's what's important.

jW
 
I understand why you watn to do a fresh install, but let me tell people something: average Joe at work or home don't even know what that is.
They buy a DVD from Apple, put it in the computer and then it says: Install.
They click on install, FOLLOWING APPLE'S ADVICE, and they end up with a buggy computer. So now you guys tell me it is their fault?. They just followed manufacturers instructions!!. I f this is causing so many problems, how come you all now this and Apple experts, the ones who design the computer and the software, don't know about it?. Why does not Apple directly use another type of installation by default?.
Truth is, Apple's default installation is what it is, and it seems to be causing a lot of problems to people. So please, don't come here saying is their fault on top of that.

What's flawed about your post is that a lot of people are installing it just the way you say, the upgrade way, and are having no issues whatsoever. You can't ignore the fact that many of the "clean installs" end up getting Time Machine backups dumped on them or migration assistant dumps that have haxies installed that are not compatible with SL which are causing issues and people refuse to admit it here for the sake of complaining and making SL look like a flop.
There is absolutely no reason for anyone to be having major issues with SL (outside of a driver or 2 for a printer and even then that's the printer manufacturer's job to update that) if most of us are having success with it. It would be different if we all used different hardware like PC's but we are all using Apple's hardware. Either people are having a hardware issue or their not being honest on what's on their system prior to the upgrade.
True, the average Joe will install blindly just like you mentioned but the average Joe doesn't upgrade their operating systems either.
 
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