Has Apples reputation for finest quality suffered with IOS6?

[Irock619]

No kidding. Y'all think Jobs did everything himself? Nope. Virtually the same team in place today was instrumental in everything you love about Apple's products. Let's not put the cart before the horse. Apple is selling iPhone 5s at a record rate, they have the biggest market cap of any company in history, they're dominating several consumer market segments...

We all miss Steve, but trust me: if the company loses its way because of his departure we'll know it. A somewhat half baked Maps release isn't a harbinger of the apocalypse.

It takes more than a year for a large/rich company to go under. Steve has only been gone for less than a year. Lets see what the next 5 years have in store for us.

 

[SocalMark]

ios 6 was just take away and make you think your getting something new...Sorry but that only worked with steve Jobs.

 

[chriscrk]

IMO steve jobs never would have release maps the state its in. He would be pushed it off until it was near perfect. I think yes, the quality is dropping with out him. He would a stickler for that kind of stuff and it showed in apples products.

Hell just look how apple almost went under when he left back in the day before they begged for him to come back

The best thing about Jobs was, when he released something and it turned out to be crap, he had no problem scrapping it and starting over.

Lets hope with maps, Apple says our bad, call it a beta and give us google maps back

Don't think it's fair to compare the time when Steve was kicked out of Apple to what's going on now. It's a completely different situation.

Apple has a truly distinctive image now, they have a MUCH stronger foundation in monetary and product line up than they did back then. You just can't compare them...

Even if Apple did take the same path it did in the 90's, it'd take far longer for that to happen now.

 

[cotak]

It takes more than a year for a large/rich company to go under. Steve has only been gone for less than a year. Lets see what the next 5 years have in store for us.

The first thing to watch for if anything happens is the brain drain. The smart ones will see the writing first and they would start leaving. Which makes you wonder why that one chip guy went back to AMD. It's not like AMD's a very stable company at the moment...

Apple will survive for years even if they release a string of bad stuff. But their payroll will not.

 

[noteple]

For the love of God will somebody please fix the iOS user interface to entertain us.

I am so bored, don't have to make calls and need steady stream of 24/7 delight.

Oh Steve where are you with that special magic pixie dust.

And if only somebody would let me constantly toggle all my radios on and off by simple drumming my fingers I would complete.

Maybe the next phone could come with a stem and ignite crack just on a whim, oh yes that would be perfect.

 

[rorschach]

People don't like to hear this, or even think about it... but i'll just say it.

Steve Jobs.

I'm out.

Oh come on. You serious?

There have always been hoardes of complaints (justified or not) after new product releases, including when Steve Jobs was around. If you think everything was roses and sunshine under Steve Jobs, you don't remember MobileMe.

Go look at any of the live keynote threads for any of Steve Jobs' keynotes. Go look at some of the threads posted immediately afterwards. Every time there were the posts about how "Steve/Apple is losing it" etc. Here are a few choice quotes (that I posted in the keynote thread for this year's event):

such bull .... dual core, 8 mp, hd recording ... welcome to the world of smartphones 2011. thats catching up, not innovating

Almost 1.5 years to work on the phone and they can't come up with something even slightly better than Galaxy S II, which has been out for months now. Such a shame...

If they didn't hype this damn this up so much we wouldn't be let down.

This sucks.

Wow HUGE fail! I can't believe that Sprint was dumb enough to pay Apple $20b for that POS. Nexus Prime will destroy it.

I know it is said every year no matter what updates but in my mind this was the worst event I've ever seen for the iPods & iPhones.

No capacity updates. No hardware changes for any of the iPods. Processor/Camera updates for the iPhone.

From a hardware stand point nothing but the iPhone has changed and even little there. A5 was already in the iPad so its nothing new.

In September 2010, Steve Jobs brought the worst updates ever to the iPod line.

OMG is this a boring event

It's a concern that Apple thought such an insignificant update to their product line needed an event.

Started off good, then got boring. Maybe we overhyped this new iPad.

No quad core CPU
No 128GB option
No Siri
No haptic display
16GB still base

So that was... underwhelming.

Thanks Apple, you pushed the boundaries forward now you're getting overtaken yourself. One might have thought you'd learned from past mistakes but transparently not.

this upgrade was even more retarded than last year's.....



Same crappy plastic??? Minor hardware changes???

My early 2008 MBP: 2.5GHz, 4GB RAM, 250GB = £1470
The new MBP: 2.4GHz, 4GB RAM, 250GB = £1499

So, £29 more for 0.1GHz less, a cheap-looking, dated chiclet keyboard, no matte screen option, no FW400, no DVI output without a £30 adaptor and a design that's exactly the same as the cheaper MacBook.

I'm glad I didn't wait!

But I think the new Mac Book Pros are ****. What the **** were they thinking when they made that? I have the typical complaints about them, but it's seriously frickin stupid. There's nothing PRO about them.

The new 24" screen looks pretty cool IMO. It would match my iMac REALLY well and I was really looking onto getting one until... oops, they **** that up too. So I HAVE to buy this new, ugly, useless product JUST to use the cool new monitor? Stupid.

Wow, extremely disappointed that there's no MVNO. Talk about a letdown.

If all that's going to be released today is the iPhone and the Apple TV then in my opinion this was a waste of a keynote, and nothing new is going to be available today.

I would have LOVED this phone if it would have been 3G!!! But EDGE only? Definitely not worth the money. And what happened to computers?

The thing that erks me the most though is that this is called MACWORLD. There was no MAC item at all today. The APPLEtv is just an extension of the iPod line, hence the product being placed in the iPod Store on Apple.com.

We didn't even get iLife updated today.....

Really? Is that it?
Worst reason for a special event ever!
Seriously, couldn't Apple have just rolled out these updates without all of the show?

Worst. Keynote. Ever.

This might be the worst MacWorld event in the history of Mac wtf is this crap

no wonder jobs decided to let schiller "handle" this mediocre keynote

Horribly disappointing. No real product launches, no Jobs on the final keynote, nothing. barely worth being there..... maybe that's why jobs didn't go. Nothing to present.

worst keynote ever. Steve really, we don't give a **** about 3rd part developers. Lets see some new hardware and what APPLE is doing....not some lame social network.

AAPL stock is going down. Wonder if it has anything to do with this keynote.

1 - GREAT new iPods;
2 - GREAT news about iOS for iPad;
3 - iTunes 10 is only about Ping? What else, can anyone tell me?
4 - USELESS APPLE TV update.

APPLE IS DEAD

Ok everyone, lets recap what we talked about today!

First, we showed you a really tiny new turd, then a medium sized turd and a redesigned large turd.

Then we showed you a smaller version of a previous turd.

This is the worst keynote of all time. iPhone 3GS upgrade for 400/500 dollars on top of the monthly plan that charges as though its subsidized? AT&T never ceases to amaze me.

I will get told to go buy a Dell, I'm sure, but I will say this anyway: Worst. Update. Ever.

No matter what marketing lingo Apple throws out there this was still a primarily cosmetic update. The only backside update to this is the graphics, and the FSB (with the switch to DDR3 accompanying it predictably).

Boring so far.

-> Still no trial apps.

-> Typical lame Apple battery excuse for no multitasking, by using an unnamed, and no doubt worst case, application.

-> Using Google maps API in apps. That's always been possible.

-> Core location. Ditto. So what if they include a library for direction math.

-> Push notification. Still leaving out the details, I see.

BUt of course, they use Valley Girl phrases like "awesome" and "amazing", because people eat it up.

Wow this keynote sucked! Apple sucks! The MacBook Air is useless as a computer!! Lion - GROWL - weak! I wanted 10-core processors! 512 GB ram! Hey, what is the Facetime ************? Professionals don't want that? Where's my professional computer? Why do they still make iPads? No one uses an iPhone where is the new $15k towers with 100" monitors we were promised?

Why does Steve look so bad? What wit his face? And his outfit will it ever change?

this was the lamest iphone event in history, the iPhone 4S is a joke.
siri is just useful when you are driving a car, just kiddies are exited about the 7x faster graphics, 95% don't give a *** about the graphics, and a bit more pixels for the camera, hahaha I still can't believe how lame the upgrade is. I think apple never disappointed the people that hard.

Ugh. Now I dont know what to do. I was so excited; I even skipped class for the live blogging. Nothing.

Spec bump? Better camera? That's cool and all, but... ugh. And that's the thing, pre-orders are BEFORE Ice Cream Sandwich, so I HAVE to commit to buy if I want the thing relatively soon.

This sucks.

Wow, what a disappointment! I guess I can look forward to ios 5 and my iphone 4 for another year!

sorry but this event was just shyte

Oh did I mention that this was probably the LAMEST iPod event, let alone APPLE EVENT EVER?!?!?!?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The new nanos could have easily been brought out with a splash page on the home page. The revised touch isn't even worth mentioning in anything other than one of the smaller news blocks at the bottom of Apple.com and software 2.1 is a given.

And what reason is there to be anything less than underwhelms? When Apple promises a major event, and only succeeds in delivering a few new colors... whining IS appropriate.

what a waste of high expectations. new nanos, touch, iphone 2.1, and itunes 8. ugh, boring.

2.1 firmware. What a let down. Nothing but bug fixes.

Not even one item from my wish list.

Flash
MMS
Turn-by-turn navigation
Copy/Paste
Background apps
SMS folders
Ability to save documents to from email
etc etc etc

Absolutely blows.

Now I've got to look for a 12-core PC tower (or better) and Apple just lost $10,000.

Lion? Lipstick on a pig. The iPadification of Mac OS.

Macbook Air? Jobs attempt to make notebooks into a toy as useless and thin as he is.

And of course, his fetish with Blu-ray comes complete with no optical drive whatsoever to deliver content to clients. Useless.

Now we pro content creator users can finally leave. All several million of us.

The era is finally over. The mac, as far as creating pro content, is dead. I'll be divesting my entire company's mac inventory as soon as my current rendering project is finished.

Buh-bye.

1.4 ghz, are you kidding me, are u ****ing kidding me.

Steve on the ipad launch bashed netbooks for being slow, then he releases "next gen" macbooks with 2gb ram, and 1,4ghz.

WTF.

The display resolution is great, but the rest is bleh.

Yep:"Steve Jobs."

 

[H. Flower]

That argument doesn't make sense.


And it is slightly disconcerting apple's had two "it just doesn't work" tent pole features released back to back in Siri and Maps.

 

[Vegastouch]

Even if the quality has gone down, it's still better than the other mobile OS's out there. That's not to say Apple should rest on their laurels.

But to address the things you mentioned, I don't see how YouTube not being there affects quality. It's just not a native app anymore, and if anything, doing that has allowed for a BETTER YouTube app to show up, in the app store, for free. Don't see how that's a problem.

You seem to be complaining more about specific apps, not quality overall. The maps app is, for the better part, a disaster, you're right. I find it weird that they allowed for it to be released in that way... I can understand, partially, because of them wanting to compete with Google and so on, but it's still a bad move. Ofc they can improve on it with time, but I think most of us trusted that they'd do a better job.

Other than that, I can't think of other major problems. Every software updates, iOS, OS X, they all come with a few bugs here and there... It's just normal, and personally I haven't been having any App Store problems.

But to sum it up I guess, I wouldn't say the quality of iOS has gone down, in fact, it's gotten better. It's just a specific app that has turned to ****, but in other aspects, things have improved. The weather app is much more polished and beautiful, the stores and music app (I guess this is a matter of opinion) look much more modern and beautiful, etc. Small changes, like the little metallic circle in the volume slider having that reflection effect changing depending on how you hold your device, shows their attention to detail, and small details like that affect quality a lot.

Try streaming music with bluetooth. Uh oh.

iOS6 sucks. Apples arrow is pointing down without Steve Jobs im afraid. And sorry, Android is now a better OS with ICS and especially Jelly Bean.

 

[Surf Monkey]

You doom and gloomers are hilarious.

iOS 6 is a good update. No, it won't tie your shoes and brush your teeth. But I bet if Steve Jobs were still here it would do those things and more!!

 

[Muzzakus]

You doom and gloomers are hilarious.

iOS 6 is a good update. No, it won't tie your shoes and brush your teeth. But I bet if Steve Jobs were still here it would do those things and more!!

Corporate strategy over user experience has surfaced. Is this apples new direction? User centric design and experience was the DNA previously.

 

[SinkOrSwim]

Yup, no matter how much people want to deny this, apple simply isn't the same anymore without steve jobs.

--- I AGREE! HANDS DOWN! But let's give Tim Cook a shot and see if he can do better. I hope so.

 

[faroZ06]

Except there are a bunch of apps that use Apple's Maps... which are now all as useless as Maps itself. Since the change was forced upon us and we can't do anything to change it, yes, it counts as a part of iOS 6.


...but, if you need more reasons that the thread title should remain, just take a look at the new App Store or Passbook. Every one of the major changes and 'features' of iOS6 were a disaster.

I haven't bothered looking at Passbook, but I looked at the App Store. I don't see why people are complaining about it. You don't have to keep clicking on apps and going back just to see the description anymore. It's annoying if you want to scroll down to the 15th app in the search, but that's like going to the second results page on Google.